Wow, how does this keep happening. All I can say is; hopefully this doesn't hurt more people and in some way helps those that are already owed machines or money. I'm not holding my breath.

At this point I'm going hope for the best with Deep Roots Pinball. Hopefully they can make good on their promises. I think nearly everyone can agree that what they have promised would be a good thing. So, if we think like Littlefinger and "assume the worst", what is the worst that can happen? I honestly don't think there is any chance our community would allow a company like this to pre-sell, so the worst I can assume is that this is a stall tactic where JPOP is trying to show he's still working, thus reducing the likelihood that a court would rule against him. Am I missing something else?

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I agree, I'd love to see the Archer layout on a machine.

Do you feel compfortable sharing who asked you this and when it was asked? It wouldnt surprise me if it were JPOP. If it was someone else at Deep Roots then that's enough for me to loose all hope for any positive resolution. So far we've had about a paragraph of a statement from them. This would clearly contradict that statement.

Honestly, I was originally thinking it contradicted what they had said. I assumed that they would take care of vendors and customers, but in actuality this was the quote: "Robert indicated that Deeproot is aware that in order to work with JPop, they would have to take care of “each and every” Zidware customer. Robert assured that this “comes first” and is the first priority. No specifics were discussed, however, they plan to have multiple options to make sure Zidware customers are made whole." I now feel that this statement, combined with the request to Yeti, shows that even if they have an understanding of the full issues surrounding John, Deeproot has already started trying to find ways to avoid making things right for everyone. This shows their true character. If they are willing to do this to Yeti, it's just a matter of time before they pull this with the next person.

Thank you. That's all I really need to know. It's clear in that case John was acting as an employee of Deeproot.

I hope you're wrong. In my view pinball is such a niche market that you can't succeed without having a group of loyal supporters. Take Spooky for example, they sure seem to be making money and making friends.

By definition, decisions require making a choice. Not everyone is going to be happy with every choice that is made...that's fine. You seem to be trying to lump everyone together as equally awful. Which, at least to me, is an attempt to justify John's actions. I find that ludicrous. There is so much good in this hobby, yet we constantly are driven into the drama created by the 5%. My only interest in Deeproot at this point is to try to avoid someone else from getting hurt.

PS: Spooky has more loyal supporters in Benton, WI then John has loyal supporters in the entire pinball industry.

Here is my one sentence summary...

John's willingness to "make it right" always seems to come at the expense of others.