This is a shocking development as I'm quite familiar with deep root and their attempts to work with Jpop years ago.

I wonder how much of this will mirror the American Pinball deal and how those magic girls got built except this time it's RAZA.

Those zidware games were looked at MANY, MANY times by industry people. There's a reason they ALL chose to walk away. AP was the latest to think they could get into pinball with them, and then THEY walked away as well, with well deserved egg on their face and it took some time to get over it.

Can't believe the jpop reality distortion field still works on anyone.

RAZA is around 120 machines owing, but many have balances owing on them. For example, I had paid $6500, so $3500 to collect if I were to get a machine.

There would still be a huge deficit to cover, and its debatable whether a pinball design is worth anything close to that. AP obviously found it better to shit can everything and start from scratch with a new designer.

Just this, as seen on

http://deeproottech.com/

They put his name there. They've posted in this thread before. So they are completely aware of his reputation and radioactivity as well as knowing what it means to be involved with him.

My suggestion to the deeproot people is get ahead of this and explain what is going on. If you didn't want the attention, his name could have been left of, but you put it there.

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Personally why I'd love to see him raking leaves or working at Subway making sandwiches. Just an ounce of humbleness and humility.

Edit: on second thought, I know in his mind he'd be thinking we're the assholes that made him rake leaves and stole his career away. because that is how he thinks.

I don't understand how deeproot put jpop's name on their website, are fully aware of his baggage, but then don't want to talk about it when it finally went nuclear on them.

Now they're going to get months or more of one sided hysteria. Great way to launch a business. No zidware pinball design is worth this. American Pinball realized this and it took, what, a year to finally distance themselves from the jpop taint.

Thanks, that is the best source of info from deeproot we've seen yet.

Still lots to be explained and revealed, but if taking care of zidware customers is part of their business plan maybe there is a way out of this for them.

But.... we've heard this song before.

Not paying Yeti or Applejuice for their prior work does not leave much to get excited about how this will go in the future. Same shit, different day (or in this never-ending story, different year).

100% correct. No room for all the current players, there will be some more spectacular failures.

Thanks for the update, Ice.

This is pretty mindblowing. Pinball as an investment vehicle. I think we've learned over the last few years just what a terrible business it is to start. So many ways to eat money, so many ways to lose your shirt, and how much upside could there possibly be?