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New pinball company: http://deeprootpinball.com/
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How in the hell does this guy get a job with anyone in this industry at this point in time. He has proven on multiple occasions he can't get things done. You have accomplished more as a one man team than this guy has with millions of dollars and the help of others.
Wasn't that a company that was attempting to come in and save the Zidware games before American Pinball came in? They made a handful of posts in 2015
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Wow, how does this keep happening. All I can say is; hopefully this doesn't hurt more people and in some way helps those that are already owed machines or money. I'm not holding my breath.
This is a shocking development as I'm quite familiar with deep root and their attempts to work with Jpop years ago.
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I wonder how much of this will mirror the American Pinball deal and how those magic girls got built except this time it's RAZA.
I'm curious what the significance is behind the name Deeproot? How did that come about to be the company name(s)?
Quoted from Coolpinballdino:the fist game
Freudian slip. Quite appropriate though, considering JPOP is involved.
It worked out very well for American Pinball. All they had to do was build a bunch of insanely expensive, unplayable pinballs. Go back to the drawing board and completely redesign another game he designed. And finally completely disassociate with him.
What could possibly go wrong?
Quoted from MinusWorlds:It worked out very well for American Pinball. All they had to do was build a bunch of insanely expensive, unplayable pinballs. Go back to the drawing board and completely redesign another game he designed. And finally completely disassociate with him.
What could possibly go wrong?
And drop a crapton of money in the process. Joe Balcer has been there to save the day for JPoop a NUMBER of times apparently. I'm betting Houdini was the last time.
Quoted from Pinball-is-great:I'm curious what the significance is behind the name Deeproot?
Bend over, and I'll show ya.
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:Hmm...
Fingers crossed they do better than AP's MG.
It never ceases to amaze how you still show up in these threads...
Quoted from Coolpinballdino:the fist game should be a non licensed game called ripoff.
All recent and future Jpop games are fist games. Jpop buyers should now expect to get fisted on any new game moving forward.
You know he's probably thinking "hey, no matter how bad I f'd it up, I'm not John Trudeau, let's take a shot at this!" 
Ripoff artist Jpop doesn't deserve a job with any pinball company. He's done, it's over, the stink will never wash off. If these guys aren't morons they'll fire him now instead of waiting for him to waste a bunch of their time and money and then fire him, after dragging their name through the mud.
So did a little digging around based on the names shown on their website.
Robert Mueller's linked in page shows he started as a lawyer in 2001. Then started Deeproot funds in 2013 (which is some sort of administration manager for brokers and investors). Deeproot Tech LLC is an offshoot company started in 2015 (would be just before American Pinball debuted)
So then if you lookup Turner logic (software), it's not a person but rather a company that does various web programming:
http://turnerlogic.com/portfolio/
It's also confirmed because they mention deeproot on their page.
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:Fingers crossed they do better than AP's MG.
If the ingredients are crap, and the recipe sucks and the chef is incompetent, does not matter how good the kitchen is, you are not going end up with something you want to consume.
Quoted from Rum-Z:Freudian slip. Quite appropriate though, considering JPOP is involved.
Up the jpoop shoot multiball
Quoted from toyotaboy:So did a little digging around based on the names shown on their website.
Robert Mueller's linked in page shows he started as a lawyer in 2001. Then started Deeproot funds in 2013 (which is some sort of administration manager for brokers and investors). Deeproot Tech LLC is an offshoot company started in 2015 (would be just before American Pinball debuted)
So then if you lookup Turner logic (software), it's not a person but rather a company that does various web programming:
http://turnerlogic.com/portfolio/
It's also confirmed because they mention deeproot on their page.
Then this may very well be a tax writeoff situation. They may never intend to product a game
Quoted from frolic:mirror the American Pinball deal.
Buckle up.
Quoted from lpeters82:hopefully this doesn't hurt more people and in some way helps those that are already owed machines or money. I'm not holding my breath.
Wait...for just a minute, step back, and look at this.
1st of all Magic Girl is not and never was an A.P. produced machine. Those POS's were hand built by JPop and a few helping hands, that's why no 2 machines were exactly alike.
Deeproot is a contract manufacturer. My guess is after their fallout with JPop 2 years ago, then watching the mass hysteria that was when Magic Girls actually got delivered, they have chosen to dip their big toe in the pool water again. Look, JPop walked into A.P. with Houdini in exchange for M.G. and got them involved. They bought in hook , line, and sinker. However, they did quickly realize what a complete mistake it was , made a 180, allowed Jpop to build his M.G.'s there, and then showed him the door. Houdini today only shares the name that design JPop brought to them. Oh yeah, Houdini goes in production in 2 weeks.
SO, is it possible, once again JPop has walked in with another one of his machine plans that he has had in the bag, gives it to Deeproot in exchange for RAZA and AIW production? Remember, these machines ARE not 100% paid for like MG was. There would be additional units for outright sale. It's possibly lucrative to Deeproot.
Let's not kill this one if it puts machines in they buyers hands who have already paid their money.
Quoted from vdojaq:Let's not kill this one if it puts machines in they buyers hands who have already paid their money.
Somehow, I don't think any of that pre-order money would count towards any potential new games since they would be technically from a different company.
When a company hires a new employee or contracts with someone, they don't inherit that employee's/contractor's former debts and obligations, no matter how souring it is for people who are owed something from that person.
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