(Topic ID: 67080)

Resolved: JP - Sound Issues

By JeffA

10 years ago


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  • Latest reply 10 years ago by JeffA
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#1 10 years ago

OK. My JP is having a weird problem where the sounds during game play don't correctly. It's almost like they are stepping on each other and can't play concurrently. Sound tests are fine. Music between games is fine. As soon as the game starts, sounds get cut off and / or don't play at all. I've reseated the roms on the sound board. No change. Any suggestions where to start troubleshooting?

Here's a video of what's happening:

Update: Additional comments.... This seems intermittent. It was happening for days. Last night, it started working for 10 or so games. This morning, I played another 10. Only happened on ball 2 and 3 on one game and then returned to working. Ugh.

Thanks in advance.

Jeff

Post edited by JeffA : Add update.

#2 10 years ago

Bump. Still behaving badly. Any tips are appreciated.

#3 10 years ago

Bump (sorry... just at a loss and hoping someone can point me in the right direction)

#4 10 years ago

Might be worth replacing the sound rom sockets and maybe even replacing sound roms and upgrading other roms as needed, depending on what software version you're running.

I've also seen JP do some crazy weird things when one of the trough switches is shorted. Mine was spontaneously activating all kinds of modes during play and fixing trough switches corrected the problem.

Good luck!

#5 10 years ago

#6 10 years ago
Quoted from winteriscoming:

I've also seen JP do some crazy weird things when one of the trough switches is shorted.

Yeah, I'm gonna look at that again. I've had that problem before. Though the game is playing pretty normally I think - except that hitting the center Spitter target activates all three of the them. That is suspicious. And one of the other stand ups isn't working at all. Wondering if there's some weird short or current is going a direction it's not supposed to go.

#7 10 years ago

I had something similar to this happen to me. My sounds were ALL OVER the wall. I'd hit the start button and the TREX would roar. I'd hit the bunker and I'd hear "Welcome to Jurassic Park...", I'd hit a ramp and the smart missle sound would go off. Completely and totally random.

Turned out my sound ROM had to be replaced/updated. I didn't know it at the time; I did it because it was good maintenance. Sounds behaved beautifully after that.

#8 10 years ago

Thanks for the replies. I went back and am pretty clear that the problem has to do with trough switches. Thought I had this addressed before (!). One seemed to be on all the time in the switch test (hadn't noticed before when I had balls in there since they should be registering). Disconnected the one problem switch and sound played perfectly. Of course, had to connect the wires to start each game and to register a drained ball so it knew that all the balls were in the trough. Temporarily connecting the switch wires knocked out the display (which had also been periodically giving me problems previously). I'm going to order some new switches and diodes and replace at least that one. Man, I hope that's the only issue. A whole lot cheaper than replacing a board. Will take a week to get parts and install. Update here then.

1 week later
#9 10 years ago

OK, so I need to stop assuming that because I did something and a problem goes away, that the thing I did was what fixed it. After some help from a smart guy, the problem seems to be with the connector on the back of the DMD . I had been having periodic display issues too, but it wasn't as frequent as the sound issue, though they often happened at the same time. When I wiggle the wires to the connector a bit, the display will immediately go out. I can then hold it in a certain position and it will come back. The whole connector has a huge amount of movement, like the pins had broken free from the board. We attempted to resolder, but there's no way to get in there to do a decent job. After unplugging the connector compleltely, the sound worked perfectly again. If I could see my score, I'm sure they would be good too! Still not sure how the display and the sound are related (?). Regardless, the display needs to be replaced. Not 100% sure this will solve the problem permanently (see opening sentence), but I'm feeling good that it's the most likely problem. More once I get a new DMD and have a chance to play it for a while.

#10 10 years ago
Quoted from JeffA:

OK, so I need to stop assuming that because I did something and a problem goes away, that the thing I did was what fixed it. After some help from a smart guy, the problem seems to be with the connector on the back of the DMD . I had been having periodic display issues too, but it wasn't as frequent as the sound issue, though they often happened at the same time. When I wiggle the wires to the connector a bit, the display will immediately go out. I can then hold it in a certain position and it will come back. The whole connector has a huge amount of movement, like the pins had broken free from the board. We attempted to resolder, but there's no way to get in there to do a decent job. After unplugging the connector compleltely, the sound worked perfectly again. If I could see my score, I'm sure they would be good too! Still not sure how the display and the sound are related (?). Regardless, the display needs to be replaced. Not 100% sure this will solve the problem permanently (see opening sentence), but I'm feeling good that it's the most likely problem. More once I get a new DMD and have a chance to play it for a while.

You might consider swapping an LCD in place of the DMD. I did that in my JP. If you're already having to invest in a DMD, an LCD solution utilizing a DMDExtender is comparable in price.

#11 10 years ago

I have a very nice lightly used DMD I'm selling for $120 if you need one. I bought a new one because I thought mine was out, but it was something I missed when I was rebuilding the high voltage section on the PS. It was from a mostly home-use machine, so no lines or burnt out corners or anything, it looks pretty much identical to the brand new one I just threw into the machine.

#12 10 years ago

winteriscoming and thedefog...thanks for the thought and the offer. Unfortunately, I was really anxious and placed the order immediately. DMD is already on it's way.

#13 10 years ago

Hope you can get to the bottom of it. I was bummed because I had proper voltage readings on the original DMD, got nothing on it though, so ordered a new one, then realized the voltage was off again with the new one installed. Replaced the entire high voltage section and added a heat-sink on to the lone MJE1530 and it came back. I had even replaced the faulty lone one once prior. I guess the moral of the story is, the parts are inexpensive enough, just replace them all, don't bother trying to probe each one and just replace the faulty ones, chances are additional stresses were placed on the other components that would allow them to test okay, but fail quickly.

#14 10 years ago

Your sound board is constantly rebooting. You need to check the power running to it since unstable power will cause it to reboot all the time. I'm guessing it's a bad capacitor.

#15 10 years ago

OK, new DMD arrived yesterday. Installed and all sound problems, plus the less consistent display issue, are completely resolved. The only thing I can figure is that the loose pins on the power connecter on the DMD must have been causing the power to be delivered inconsistently which caused a fluctuation in the power to the sound board (which caused it to reboot as Chad described).

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