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Join the middle-pop club!


By NicoVolta

3 years ago



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#50 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

With the conclusion of 1956, no further middle-pop games would be designed by Neyens or Williams.

Obscure footnote: in the 1970s Harry designed several center-pop and other weird-bottom games, but they were never produced. One, which he designed in September of 1972 (therefore well after Spanish Eyes was on location), precisely copies the very bottom flipper/bumper/post arrangement of Spanish Eyes, but then puts proper slings above the flippers and gets more and more different the farther up the playfield you go.

#55 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

How cool! Where did you find this information? Are these layouts published anywhere? Would be cool to see the sketches!

Come to Pinball Expo and attend the seminar at 3PM on Friday!

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#92 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

How cool! Where did you find this information? Are these layouts published anywhere? Would be cool to see the sketches!
I'll edit the text if possible to say "no further middle-pop games would be produced" and add the info... thx!

Now that I'm not scooping the Expo seminar, here are some examples:

http://backglass.org/williams/tlpdohw/tlpdohw_goofy_bottoms.jpg

#94 3 years ago
Quoted from zacaj:

I.... I'm not sure I want to play that Viking
The other two, sign me up

On Viking a serious backflip on a lower flipper would definitely then carom off the same-side upper flipper and then do who knows what.

Harry wanted the ball to be wild, after all.

#97 3 years ago

I think one thing that dooms the "castle layout" from being commercially successful is how critical the bumper operation is to the game. On a normal game, if you have one weak or half-broken pop bumper out of 3 or 5, the game still plays OK. On Spanish Eyes, it means you have a frustrating 5-inch gap between the flippers.

#98 3 years ago
Quoted from zacaj:

Is the seminar available online at all?

My mom was hoping it would be I did not see anyone filming all seminars this year, like there has been in the past.

#101 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Did you attend the prior seminar about the "awesome overlooked EM's"?

The last half of it, but Clay was there annoying me as usual so I didn't pay as close attention as I would have liked.

#105 3 years ago
Quoted from dmbjunky:

Are you the guy who did the seminar? Does he plan to build the other games besides Typhoon?

I am the guy that did the seminar, and he does

#107 3 years ago

Typhoon is the one that was complete and playable at Pinball Expo.

I ended up making a web page of the seminar contents, since so many people weren't able to make it:

http://backglass.org/williams/tlpdohw/expo2016/

#110 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Incredibly cool story & thank you so much for putting that together and sharing it. Absolutely deserves its own thread... and quite exciting to think another middle-pop might be joining the flock.

OK, fine.... done.

#112 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Do let me know if you might attend TPF 2017... would like to say hello if so. VECTOR showcases many restored EM's and the Freedom prototype will likely make a return trip.

My newly-acquired status as a single dad is going to make travel like that tricky for a while, but I do know a bunch of the Texas pinheads so would like to get down there eventually. Maybe TPF 2019...

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#120 3 years ago

No, it looks fan-tas-tic!

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