Well, that JM looks pretty sweet. GLWTS

So what, all the art is on a big mylar sheet? Just tryin' to understand that apron card..

That's pretty damn cool!

I never really care for proto's but this one has me really interested!!!!

Yeah, the thing looks amazing. Really wish the art was screened to the wood and cleared over but what can you do...it still looks awesome.

Ok I'm confused. I just looked at his original ad and it said 3k. So you paid him more than he was asking?

Great looking example SCP. GLWYS.

Greg was asking $3K which was a heck of a deal!
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fs-jm-proto-price-lowered-wpt-whitewood

Pretty sure Greg sold it to Don up in Beverly Hills and I think it went for a bit under the 3K it was listed for, Not sure on that but I know it was not more then 3k, If you bought it from a guy named Don or Alex and they told you they bought it for 5k thats a Lie. I was offered this game for 5k on Jan 23 by Alex via text and when I saw the pics I called him out on it and referenced the Pinside thread were Greg was selling it for 3k 3 weeks prior,he admitted to me it was Don who bought it and the story kinda changed. I wish you the best and hope you get what your asking as its a very Rare Piece and in fantastic condition and its value is really how bad someone wants it,I just wanted you to know the backstory on my end and what I experienced,it seems to me they will stretch the truth a bit about what they payed to make a profit, no big deal if your looking to make some money on a game but just be honest. I used to be friends with Alex but to much Shady actions like this have changed that. GLWYS.

Joe(acejedi)

If it weren't for the "theme" - which I quite enjoy actually - JM would be a top 20 pin IMO. Few pins offer the solid rules, excitement, music/dots, cool toy and great shots that JM delivers.

This white wood looks great.

If it were on the east coast I'd be all over it! Gorgeous pin! GLWS!

How is the art sheet attached to the playfield?

Does anyone know if it would be possible to safely auto clearcoat over a bare whitewood playfield with the printed mylar sheet like this? The biggest thing that kept me from buying it when Greg originally had it for sale is that I'd be scared to play such a rare (but unprotected) pin. I'd have to limit my playtime on the game and put up velvet ropes whenever inviting friends' over to play my pins as I wouldn't want the artwork to get ruined!

Yep, sounds exactly like the proto whitewood CV that shows up at Expo occasionally with very early software and the "gay" Ringmaster. I think the sheet is held down by the mechs and taped down where needed (or adhesive used). Definitely NOT something one could clearcoat over IMHO.

Thanks for the Response SoCalPinballs and yes Don is the guy I was Talking about up in BH and Alex is his Buddy. I have never met Don so I cant comment on him just what I have heard from other people doing dealings with him, some positive and some negative. Alex on the other hand I would not deal with myself anymore. I am not interested in the game as I have a really nice one in my collection, but I know for a fact anything that comes from Greg is spectacular. Once again GLWYS I am sure it will not last long. Glad I could add a bit of backstory on my end. PM me if you have any other questions.

Joe(acejedi)

super cool.

Correct, that is exactly as I remember it. Must be printed with the black side down. Absolutely no way to clear over this as there would be nothing adhering the mylar down to the playfield. It could probably be removed and scanned for posterity or to reprint the sheet in case the original gets damaged.

Also whereas the whitewood itself is a prototype, the ink on the mylar sheet I believe is the final production black lines. You can see in several places where the inserts in the playfield are not in the same spot as the blacklines. Most noticeably in the outlanes and at the lower exit from the pop bumpers.

Great looking game... Wanted to ask as most of the whitewood protos came with unfinished code for testing, does this pin have the complete code installed? I'm assuming it does but I thought I would ask. I'm so tempted on snagging this up. Thanks

Cool game

Buy it , keep it in Cali !

Rough; I am sorry you were apparently burned on this one.

This seemed like such a smokin' deal at 3K, 4K shipped seems more than a fair price IF this is the sort of collector's item you are after.

Compared to the Fake LE nonsense of the NIB market, here is what an acutal collectible pinball looks like. Wishing you luck with the sale!

For some strange reason, I want this game, and I have never even played a JM before. I think it looks awesome and the rare factor is cool. And since we have already gotten 3 of our pins from you, I know you are a great seller. Sadly, my pin money is tied up in a paid in full Predator right now, so there's no way to justify it. Good luck with the sale!