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John Wick = NO GUNS, JAWS Doesn't Eat the Pinball, What Next

By staceyflip

69 days ago


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#1 69 days ago

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#2 69 days ago

Wow that text just keeps going.

#3 69 days ago

You realize that John Wick is full of guns. Did you watch the gameplay reveal? There are guns and head shots galore on the screen. Who cares if there are no guns on the playfield and cabinet.

#4 69 days ago
Quoted from daley:

You realize that John Wick is full of guns. Did you watch the gameplay revel. There are guns and head shots galore on the screen. Who cares if there are no guns on the playfield and cabinet.

It just would've been more fitting if there were some. And if any game in the last many, many years deserved a gun ball launcher, it was John Wick.

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#5 68 days ago

WTF! Nobody is forcing you to buy their games. Go play more location pinball and have fun.

#6 68 days ago
Quoted from staceyflip:

Watching Cary Hardy and couldn't believe my ears...John Wick has NO GUNS in the artwork, no guns as weapon choices during gameplay
Weird. Let's make a pin about the greatest shooter in the past 10 years, and pretend like he doesn't even have guns. He has a pencil and that's good enough. Let's make a pin about the most furious shark that eats everything including license plates, but no, he doesn't eat the pinball. The promo for CES shows the shark eating the pinball! So somebody at Stern knows the shark was supposed to eat the ball. Now who is overreacting? What's next? Is Stern going to make a pin about the Exorcist and turn Linda Blair into just a sad nun having a bad day? Maybe you could just give her an ice cream cone to make her feel better?
--What's next???
--Yes, I am still disappointed with Stern Pinball. I didn't run out to play Jaws day 1 and I never thought I would buy one. Still have a bad taste in my mouth over their re-issuing LE's with new art. Still upset that Stern doesn't let us know when they are re-running older titles. If they were transparent, then we could sell our originals ahead of time if needed. But no, Stern only cares about Stern selling new pins, not about loyal customers and what happens when they need to sell a pin to get the new shiny pin. They raised prices and took all second market money away from the players to line their own wallets. OK, they are a business. BUT, if it's not sustainable, then their new pin inventory can just SIT there, unplayed.
--Insider Connect is sort of a hard pill to swallow too. Yes, I understand operators absolutely NEED it. Younger people may enjoy competing with others online, earning badges, etc. For me, the entire reason I LOVE pinball in the first place is because it's mechanical. It's tactile. It's physical. It gives me an opportunity to DISCONNECT for a few minutes, let's me get OFF my phone for a minute.
--I do enjoy being able to update the code over wifi. That is brilliant. It makes my life easier. Tracking gameplay on my phone sounds like a nightmare to me. What a time sucker/vampire.
--I feel like pinball is NOT the right venue for the vegan shark or the new enlightened gunless John Wick. If it is the licensors calling the shots, or lack of shots, maybe John Wick wasn't the best choice for a new pin?? Just asking for a friend lol.
--George Gomez is running interference on the whole gun/John Wick thing..so it’s officially a thing. God Bless George, he is in fact my favorite pinball designer, and MORE than that, he IS the driving force at Stern. This is the guy that keeps pinball alive for all of us.
--I’ve been serious about pinball for only a short 5 years. My christening was during a year before pandemic, so yes, I did think the pinball bubble was just ‘normal.’ Pinball just costs a LOT of money, so I simply had to just make more money. BUT, I KNEW I could cash in on my pins at any time…and the pinball secondary market is a cash business, so…I learned how to deal in CASH. I found that I could sell a quick pin for CASH on GLASS, and turn that into $ thousands in savings for construction jobs at my rentals. I never had the balls to deal in CASH before. It’s a sub culture, with RISK. You have to know how to handle yourself with cash, NO stops on the way home from the bank, take someone with you if possible, have somewhere at home to lock it up securely. I’ve always had dogs and security at home. Which brings me back to WHY I STARTED this post in the first place…
---KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE and customers. I’ve done a LOT of pinball deals in the past 5 years. My goal was to own and play as many pins as possible, play them at HOME, mod them, love them, look at them, and bat the hell out of them. Every one was the greatest pin ever…until the next one. I’m ok with that. It gave me a reputation for selling only the cleanest, BEST shooting, totally LOVED and modded pins. If you get one of MY pins now, it’s the best possible example. I NEVER planned on selling ANY of them. It’s only because my funds are limited that I have to sell and save up for the next. It’s super weird which pins have remained in my collection the longest, which ones didn’t last at all, and WHY I have kept the ones I kept, which ones I keep selling and buying back lol. --Many decisions are in part, financial. At times I have put too much money into a pin, so I keep it longer because I can’t sell it for a reasonable price. Sometimes I have taken top dollar for a pin I didn’t really want to sell, and that ends with my going out of my way to buy it back time and again. Sometimes I get a ‘GRAIL’ pin, only to play it for a few months, love it, want to keep it forever, BUT…I don’t want to keep it more than I want a NEW pin!!! So it’s GONE.
--Would I sacrifice a pin for a JAWS or JOHN WICK??? NO WAY JOSE.
--I did actually part with my spectacular Godzilla Premium, again, and for the 5th time! Same exact pin. WHY? For Elton John. Actually to do a cash deal on home repairs, soon recouped and then a quick EJ PE buy NIB. At this point, I do feel it makes MORE sense to buy lightly USED pins. BUT EJ is just too HOT. It’s going to be a minute before we see them on the secondary market, and when we do, if I’m still loving mine, I’ll upgrade to CE for sure, and twice on Sunday. WHY? Because EJ is so freakin great on so many levels.
--EJ PE comes with all the bells and whistles straight out of the box. FANTASIC light show. Good flippers. Art, sparkle Radcals. HUGE screen…yeah, I’m not looking at that screen while I bat the pinball, BUT, every single person that comes through my doors is just drawn to it, ‘It’s like a party’ newcomers, guests, and seasoned players alike say. It’s a winner. $12k is a LOT of F’in dough for a pin. But, it makes WAY MORE SENSE than a STERN LE at this point. Stern LE’s should at least match Jersey Jack Pinball with a $12k LE, with EVERYTHING.
--STERN pinball, even still, is my favorite pinball. You just can’t beat it. It just feels RIGHT when you flip a Stern. Give us what we want for goodness sakes. POLITICS has NO PLACE in PIN. I learned years ago, pinball is a bunch of 50+ year old guys mostly. It’s NEVER worth it to talk politics. Pinball is actually something that can bring all kinds of people together, no matter your views. We can be enthusiasts, neighbors and friends. The pinhead community is small. We cannot afford politics, especially by the manufacturers!
--At this point, I’m not even excited for the next Stern. This time is an opportunity for me to maybe get some older titles I’ve ALWAYS wanted, like SOPRANOS, like The Shadow, or ROADSHOW. YES, I’m waiting for SPIKE 3 with baited breath, AI is going to change everything. Please STERN, make it more affordable, make it so attractive that everyone in pinball will simply HAVE TO HAVE ONE, like Godzilla. I’m routing for you. I’m on YOUR side. If you succeed, then I succeed, we all succeed, we all get MORE PINBALL, which is in fact the ultimate goal for us all, after all.
--‘A good job for a fair price’ is my motto for my real estate rental business. Stern has cornered the market on being the best shooters in pinball. Hands down. For a purist like me, MAN, I want STERN PINBALL. BUT, now I have a serious contender with Elton John. It shoots pretty great, still NOT a Stern, but we’re just about there, and all the extras are just spectacular. I own a Spooky pin, Rick and Morty. That damned thing was clunky as f@ck, and I spent a lot of time and money dialing it in just right. It’s superb now. It’s still no Stern or JJP, BUT it has a fun factor that is off the charts. Bolted down to the floor now…
--Sound package is so very important to me in a pin. I’m a HUGE CLELAND fan, he takes Stranger Things and Deadpool to an entirely incredible level. Rick and Morty by Spooky has the amp and speakers out of the box, combined with the genius of Scott Danesi, well, it’s AMAZING. Get a Deadpool with upgraded speakers and an external subwoofer and Cleland code, and you will just NEVER be able to sell. Stranger Things is a masterpiece. Stern gave us the UV light show, the TK lock WOW. The TK lock is just so damned great…but, we had to work hard for it, dialing it in over and over. The projector, so innovative, BUT, I’ve spent countless hours outfitting screens, and FINALLY someone came out with Dark 9 precut screens. Thank God! All that most certainly should have been worked out before the FIRST release.
--We’re all saying at this point, STERN, give us your best at a price point that makes sense. Sure, take your profit, you deserve it, but hard economic times are coming. Adjust and keep pinball around for us all a little longer please. Let’s not muddy the water with political undertones, nobody makes a living when we do that. I learned long ago, we never discuss politics with tenants. Nobody makes a living when we muddy the waters. PINBALL brings us together after all, but not when politics enter, NOT when LE’s are NO LONGER limited, NOT when parts are so cheap that maintenance is required DAY ONE to change coil stops, not when you raise prices and deliver FAR LESS. If YOU fail, WE ALL fail. So DO BETTER STERN! PLEASE.

I was wondering who was ranting and yelling at the overcast, I could hear you over the Traffic noise on Lakewood boulevard.
Go get a Tommy Burger and Chill out.

#7 68 days ago

I saw your initial post…too long for me to read so I scrolled to the bottom just so I could post this.

#8 68 days ago

I actually saw it when the EJ at Ayce Gogi drove people out of the bar area. It started playing "I'm Still Standing" and four people made faces and left. Can't blame them.

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#9 68 days ago
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#10 68 days ago

Just wait until you learn that Jaws doesn't have guns and John Wick doesn't eat the pinball.

#11 68 days ago

This would be like buying a jaws pinball machine without a shark on the playfield or the art.

#12 68 days ago
Quoted from staceyflip:

Watching Cary Hardy and couldn't believe my ears...John Wick has NO GUNS in the artwork, no guns as weapon choices during gameplay
Weird. Let's make a pin about the greatest shooter in the past 10 years, and pretend like he doesn't even have guns. He has a pencil and that's good enough. Let's make a pin about the most furious shark that eats everything including license plates, but no, he doesn't eat the pinball. The promo for CES shows the shark eating the pinball! So somebody at Stern knows the shark was supposed to eat the ball. Now who is overreacting? What's next? Is Stern going to make a pin about the Exorcist and turn Linda Blair into just a sad nun having a bad day? Maybe you could just give her an ice cream cone to make her feel better?
--What's next???
--Yes, I am still disappointed with Stern Pinball. I didn't run out to play Jaws day 1 and I never thought I would buy one. Still have a bad taste in my mouth over their re-issuing LE's with new art. Still upset that Stern doesn't let us know when they are re-running older titles. If they were transparent, then we could sell our originals ahead of time if needed. But no, Stern only cares about Stern selling new pins, not about loyal customers and what happens when they need to sell a pin to get the new shiny pin. They raised prices and took all second market money away from the players to line their own wallets. OK, they are a business. BUT, if it's not sustainable, then their new pin inventory can just SIT there, unplayed.
--Insider Connect is sort of a hard pill to swallow too. Yes, I understand operators absolutely NEED it. Younger people may enjoy competing with others online, earning badges, etc. For me, the entire reason I LOVE pinball in the first place is because it's mechanical. It's tactile. It's physical. It gives me an opportunity to DISCONNECT for a few minutes, let's me get OFF my phone for a minute.
--I do enjoy being able to update the code over wifi. That is brilliant. It makes my life easier. Tracking gameplay on my phone sounds like a nightmare to me. What a time sucker/vampire.
--I feel like pinball is NOT the right venue for the vegan shark or the new enlightened gunless John Wick. If it is the licensors calling the shots, or lack of shots, maybe John Wick wasn't the best choice for a new pin?? Just asking for a friend lol.
--George Gomez is running interference on the whole gun/John Wick thing..so it’s officially a thing. God Bless George, he is in fact my favorite pinball designer, and MORE than that, he IS the driving force at Stern. This is the guy that keeps pinball alive for all of us.
--I’ve been serious about pinball for only a short 5 years. My christening was during a year before pandemic, so yes, I did think the pinball bubble was just ‘normal.’ Pinball just costs a LOT of money, so I simply had to just make more money. BUT, I KNEW I could cash in on my pins at any time…and the pinball secondary market is a cash business, so…I learned how to deal in CASH. I found that I could sell a quick pin for CASH on GLASS, and turn that into $ thousands in savings for construction jobs at my rentals. I never had the balls to deal in CASH before. It’s a sub culture, with RISK. You have to know how to handle yourself with cash, NO stops on the way home from the bank, take someone with you if possible, have somewhere at home to lock it up securely. I’ve always had dogs and security at home. Which brings me back to WHY I STARTED this post in the first place…
---KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE and customers. I’ve done a LOT of pinball deals in the past 5 years. My goal was to own and play as many pins as possible, play them at HOME, mod them, love them, look at them, and bat the hell out of them. Every one was the greatest pin ever…until the next one. I’m ok with that. It gave me a reputation for selling only the cleanest, BEST shooting, totally LOVED and modded pins. If you get one of MY pins now, it’s the best possible example. I NEVER planned on selling ANY of them. It’s only because my funds are limited that I have to sell and save up for the next. It’s super weird which pins have remained in my collection the longest, which ones didn’t last at all, and WHY I have kept the ones I kept, which ones I keep selling and buying back lol. --Many decisions are in part, financial. At times I have put too much money into a pin, so I keep it longer because I can’t sell it for a reasonable price. Sometimes I have taken top dollar for a pin I didn’t really want to sell, and that ends with my going out of my way to buy it back time and again. Sometimes I get a ‘GRAIL’ pin, only to play it for a few months, love it, want to keep it forever, BUT…I don’t want to keep it more than I want a NEW pin!!! So it’s GONE.
--Would I sacrifice a pin for a JAWS or JOHN WICK??? NO WAY JOSE.
--I did actually part with my spectacular Godzilla Premium, again, and for the 5th time! Same exact pin. WHY? For Elton John. Actually to do a cash deal on home repairs, soon recouped and then a quick EJ PE buy NIB. At this point, I do feel it makes MORE sense to buy lightly USED pins. BUT EJ is just too HOT. It’s going to be a minute before we see them on the secondary market, and when we do, if I’m still loving mine, I’ll upgrade to CE for sure, and twice on Sunday. WHY? Because EJ is so freakin great on so many levels.
--EJ PE comes with all the bells and whistles straight out of the box. FANTASIC light show. Good flippers. Art, sparkle Radcals. HUGE screen…yeah, I’m not looking at that screen while I bat the pinball, BUT, every single person that comes through my doors is just drawn to it, ‘It’s like a party’ newcomers, guests, and seasoned players alike say. It’s a winner. $12k is a LOT of F’in dough for a pin. But, it makes WAY MORE SENSE than a STERN LE at this point. Stern LE’s should at least match Jersey Jack Pinball with a $12k LE, with EVERYTHING.
--STERN pinball, even still, is my favorite pinball. You just can’t beat it. It just feels RIGHT when you flip a Stern. Give us what we want for goodness sakes. POLITICS has NO PLACE in PIN. I learned years ago, pinball is a bunch of 50+ year old guys mostly. It’s NEVER worth it to talk politics. Pinball is actually something that can bring all kinds of people together, no matter your views. We can be enthusiasts, neighbors and friends. The pinhead community is small. We cannot afford politics, especially by the manufacturers!
--At this point, I’m not even excited for the next Stern. This time is an opportunity for me to maybe get some older titles I’ve ALWAYS wanted, like SOPRANOS, like The Shadow, or ROADSHOW. YES, I’m waiting for SPIKE 3 with baited breath, AI is going to change everything. Please STERN, make it more affordable, make it so attractive that everyone in pinball will simply HAVE TO HAVE ONE, like Godzilla. I’m routing for you. I’m on YOUR side. If you succeed, then I succeed, we all succeed, we all get MORE PINBALL, which is in fact the ultimate goal for us all, after all.
--‘A good job for a fair price’ is my motto for my real estate rental business. Stern has cornered the market on being the best shooters in pinball. Hands down. For a purist like me, MAN, I want STERN PINBALL. BUT, now I have a serious contender with Elton John. It shoots pretty great, still NOT a Stern, but we’re just about there, and all the extras are just spectacular. I own a Spooky pin, Rick and Morty. That damned thing was clunky as f@ck, and I spent a lot of time and money dialing it in just right. It’s superb now. It’s still no Stern or JJP, BUT it has a fun factor that is off the charts. Bolted down to the floor now…
--Sound package is so very important to me in a pin. I’m a HUGE CLELAND fan, he takes Stranger Things and Deadpool to an entirely incredible level. Rick and Morty by Spooky has the amp and speakers out of the box, combined with the genius of Scott Danesi, well, it’s AMAZING. Get a Deadpool with upgraded speakers and an external subwoofer and Cleland code, and you will just NEVER be able to sell. Stranger Things is a masterpiece. Stern gave us the UV light show, the TK lock WOW. The TK lock is just so damned great…but, we had to work hard for it, dialing it in over and over. The projector, so innovative, BUT, I’ve spent countless hours outfitting screens, and FINALLY someone came out with Dark 9 precut screens. Thank God! All that most certainly should have been worked out before the FIRST release.
--We’re all saying at this point, STERN, give us your best at a price point that makes sense. Sure, take your profit, you deserve it, but hard economic times are coming. Adjust and keep pinball around for us all a little longer please. Let’s not muddy the water with political undertones, nobody makes a living when we do that. I learned long ago, we never discuss politics with tenants. Nobody makes a living when we muddy the waters. PINBALL brings us together after all, but not when politics enter, NOT when LE’s are NO LONGER limited, NOT when parts are so cheap that maintenance is required DAY ONE to change coil stops, not when you raise prices and deliver FAR LESS. If YOU fail, WE ALL fail. So DO BETTER STERN! PLEASE.

TLDR

#13 68 days ago

I have a Jaws LE and I have no need for a ball eating shark. It is a great game.

#14 68 days ago
Quoted from staceyflip:

Watching Cary Hardy and couldn't believe my ears...John Wick has NO GUNS in the artwork, no guns as weapon choices during gameplay
Weird. Let's make a pin about the greatest shooter in the past 10 years, and pretend like he doesn't even have guns. He has a pencil and that's good enough. Let's make a pin about the most furious shark that eats everything including license plates, but no, he doesn't eat the pinball. The promo for CES shows the shark eating the pinball! So somebody at Stern knows the shark was supposed to eat the ball. Now who is overreacting? What's next? Is Stern going to make a pin about the Exorcist and turn Linda Blair into just a sad nun having a bad day? Maybe you could just give her an ice cream cone to make her feel better?
--What's next???
--Yes, I am still disappointed with Stern Pinball. I didn't run out to play Jaws day 1 and I never thought I would buy one. Still have a bad taste in my mouth over their re-issuing LE's with new art. Still upset that Stern doesn't let us know when they are re-running older titles. If they were transparent, then we could sell our originals ahead of time if needed. But no, Stern only cares about Stern selling new pins, not about loyal customers and what happens when they need to sell a pin to get the new shiny pin. They raised prices and took all second market money away from the players to line their own wallets. OK, they are a business. BUT, if it's not sustainable, then their new pin inventory can just SIT there, unplayed.
--Insider Connect is sort of a hard pill to swallow too. Yes, I understand operators absolutely NEED it. Younger people may enjoy competing with others online, earning badges, etc. For me, the entire reason I LOVE pinball in the first place is because it's mechanical. It's tactile. It's physical. It gives me an opportunity to DISCONNECT for a few minutes, let's me get OFF my phone for a minute.
--I do enjoy being able to update the code over wifi. That is brilliant. It makes my life easier. Tracking gameplay on my phone sounds like a nightmare to me. What a time sucker/vampire.
--I feel like pinball is NOT the right venue for the vegan shark or the new enlightened gunless John Wick. If it is the licensors calling the shots, or lack of shots, maybe John Wick wasn't the best choice for a new pin?? Just asking for a friend lol.
--George Gomez is running interference on the whole gun/John Wick thing..so it’s officially a thing. God Bless George, he is in fact my favorite pinball designer, and MORE than that, he IS the driving force at Stern. This is the guy that keeps pinball alive for all of us.
--I’ve been serious about pinball for only a short 5 years. My christening was during a year before pandemic, so yes, I did think the pinball bubble was just ‘normal.’ Pinball just costs a LOT of money, so I simply had to just make more money. BUT, I KNEW I could cash in on my pins at any time…and the pinball secondary market is a cash business, so…I learned how to deal in CASH. I found that I could sell a quick pin for CASH on GLASS, and turn that into $ thousands in savings for construction jobs at my rentals. I never had the balls to deal in CASH before. It’s a sub culture, with RISK. You have to know how to handle yourself with cash, NO stops on the way home from the bank, take someone with you if possible, have somewhere at home to lock it up securely. I’ve always had dogs and security at home. Which brings me back to WHY I STARTED this post in the first place…
---KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE and customers. I’ve done a LOT of pinball deals in the past 5 years. My goal was to own and play as many pins as possible, play them at HOME, mod them, love them, look at them, and bat the hell out of them. Every one was the greatest pin ever…until the next one. I’m ok with that. It gave me a reputation for selling only the cleanest, BEST shooting, totally LOVED and modded pins. If you get one of MY pins now, it’s the best possible example. I NEVER planned on selling ANY of them. It’s only because my funds are limited that I have to sell and save up for the next. It’s super weird which pins have remained in my collection the longest, which ones didn’t last at all, and WHY I have kept the ones I kept, which ones I keep selling and buying back lol. --Many decisions are in part, financial. At times I have put too much money into a pin, so I keep it longer because I can’t sell it for a reasonable price. Sometimes I have taken top dollar for a pin I didn’t really want to sell, and that ends with my going out of my way to buy it back time and again. Sometimes I get a ‘GRAIL’ pin, only to play it for a few months, love it, want to keep it forever, BUT…I don’t want to keep it more than I want a NEW pin!!! So it’s GONE.
--Would I sacrifice a pin for a JAWS or JOHN WICK??? NO WAY JOSE.
--I did actually part with my spectacular Godzilla Premium, again, and for the 5th time! Same exact pin. WHY? For Elton John. Actually to do a cash deal on home repairs, soon recouped and then a quick EJ PE buy NIB. At this point, I do feel it makes MORE sense to buy lightly USED pins. BUT EJ is just too HOT. It’s going to be a minute before we see them on the secondary market, and when we do, if I’m still loving mine, I’ll upgrade to CE for sure, and twice on Sunday. WHY? Because EJ is so freakin great on so many levels.
--EJ PE comes with all the bells and whistles straight out of the box. FANTASIC light show. Good flippers. Art, sparkle Radcals. HUGE screen…yeah, I’m not looking at that screen while I bat the pinball, BUT, every single person that comes through my doors is just drawn to it, ‘It’s like a party’ newcomers, guests, and seasoned players alike say. It’s a winner. $12k is a LOT of F’in dough for a pin. But, it makes WAY MORE SENSE than a STERN LE at this point. Stern LE’s should at least match Jersey Jack Pinball with a $12k LE, with EVERYTHING.
--STERN pinball, even still, is my favorite pinball. You just can’t beat it. It just feels RIGHT when you flip a Stern. Give us what we want for goodness sakes. POLITICS has NO PLACE in PIN. I learned years ago, pinball is a bunch of 50+ year old guys mostly. It’s NEVER worth it to talk politics. Pinball is actually something that can bring all kinds of people together, no matter your views. We can be enthusiasts, neighbors and friends. The pinhead community is small. We cannot afford politics, especially by the manufacturers!
--At this point, I’m not even excited for the next Stern. This time is an opportunity for me to maybe get some older titles I’ve ALWAYS wanted, like SOPRANOS, like The Shadow, or ROADSHOW. YES, I’m waiting for SPIKE 3 with baited breath, AI is going to change everything. Please STERN, make it more affordable, make it so attractive that everyone in pinball will simply HAVE TO HAVE ONE, like Godzilla. I’m routing for you. I’m on YOUR side. If you succeed, then I succeed, we all succeed, we all get MORE PINBALL, which is in fact the ultimate goal for us all, after all.
--‘A good job for a fair price’ is my motto for my real estate rental business. Stern has cornered the market on being the best shooters in pinball. Hands down. For a purist like me, MAN, I want STERN PINBALL. BUT, now I have a serious contender with Elton John. It shoots pretty great, still NOT a Stern, but we’re just about there, and all the extras are just spectacular. I own a Spooky pin, Rick and Morty. That damned thing was clunky as f@ck, and I spent a lot of time and money dialing it in just right. It’s superb now. It’s still no Stern or JJP, BUT it has a fun factor that is off the charts. Bolted down to the floor now…
--Sound package is so very important to me in a pin. I’m a HUGE CLELAND fan, he takes Stranger Things and Deadpool to an entirely incredible level. Rick and Morty by Spooky has the amp and speakers out of the box, combined with the genius of Scott Danesi, well, it’s AMAZING. Get a Deadpool with upgraded speakers and an external subwoofer and Cleland code, and you will just NEVER be able to sell. Stranger Things is a masterpiece. Stern gave us the UV light show, the TK lock WOW. The TK lock is just so damned great…but, we had to work hard for it, dialing it in over and over. The projector, so innovative, BUT, I’ve spent countless hours outfitting screens, and FINALLY someone came out with Dark 9 precut screens. Thank God! All that most certainly should have been worked out before the FIRST release.
--We’re all saying at this point, STERN, give us your best at a price point that makes sense. Sure, take your profit, you deserve it, but hard economic times are coming. Adjust and keep pinball around for us all a little longer please. Let’s not muddy the water with political undertones, nobody makes a living when we do that. I learned long ago, we never discuss politics with tenants. Nobody makes a living when we muddy the waters. PINBALL brings us together after all, but not when politics enter, NOT when LE’s are NO LONGER limited, NOT when parts are so cheap that maintenance is required DAY ONE to change coil stops, not when you raise prices and deliver FAR LESS. If YOU fail, WE ALL fail. So DO BETTER STERN! PLEASE.

Stern is doing all of this on purpose.

Whatever you wrote—and from the length and capitalization, I can tell it is a blistering truth bomb of righteousness—isn't even one-tenth the terrbile story. The reality is so, so much worse.

Stern is run by a depraved and demented cabal whose only desire is to separate you from your money with increasingly and intentionally terrible W-O-K-E games designed to disappoint and disgust. Why? Because the only thing Stern Pinball hates more than pinball is people who love pinball. And freedom.

#15 68 days ago

I'm a 40+ from the early videogames era (Arcades, Spectrum, Amstrad, Gameboy, Intel 286, PS One...) coming to the hobby of the 50+ mechanical era.

What you are suffering now is what we have suffered over the last 10 years. AAA companies selling franchised games supported by the track record of successful studios (in this case designer names), and delivering "Early adopter" games that are on Beta way before they are ready (With a peak on Cyberpunk 2077 with Keanu... ironically?). They will keep pushing prices to see where is the limit that the market can afford. Distributors will pay for it. They will break and sell stock at cost (or lower) while the big Co. has not lost a dime.

People fears that IC will bring micro transactions, but the biggest danger is about analytics. Having embedded a full analytics engine inside the Pin, they even bragged about it today in Gomez's interview. They will squeeze every piece of data to see what game mechanic is more "engaged" and just churn that ramp or that " flow" into every other game, using new designers that doesn't have the name, and not the voice to oppose their bosses so they just design what they are told. Welcome to the world were MBAs and CFOs rule over Artists and Engineers.

Next step you will see is that every time an Indy studio does a good pin, they will acquire and merge.

#16 68 days ago

Btw, your comment about only cash on glass and how unsafe is that made me connect some dots… I remember a youtuber that had a video talking about exactly how to sell pins that recently made a JW video blanding guns around…

That’s the worst marketing you can ever have for any business. That will just scare the shit out of many potential buyers wondering how are they going to let go their pins if they need to (for whatever reason) or go to any place with that amount of cash to buy one second hand.

We better start figuring out more safe markets/events to move those machines that need to go out to make space for the new ones in.

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#18 68 days ago
Quoted from stubborngamer:

Wow that text just keeps going.

At least it's in paragraphs and not one long sentence.

#19 68 days ago

1733 Words!

I see you have six great games. Maybe go and flip them a little. Life's too short to get so upset over something you can't control.

#20 68 days ago

You’re right - we need a 37th thread about this. And presented so well!

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#21 68 days ago
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#22 68 days ago

"Watching Cary Hardy..." I stopped reading after that.

#23 68 days ago

Holy fuckity

#24 68 days ago

Jesus I thought this was going to be satire. I didn’t realize folks going to continue to lose their minds my god.

#25 68 days ago

Did someone forget their adhd meds

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#26 68 days ago

Yawn

#27 68 days ago
Quoted from truemagoo102:

"Watching Cary Hardy..." I stopped reading after that.

Me too, man. Me too. lol

Thanks for watching, Staceyflip! I'm looking forward to moving passed the gun thing. We have much more information available in regards to this controversy.

#28 68 days ago
Quoted from staceyflip:

Watching Cary Hardy and couldn't believe my ears....

Consuming this garbage rots your brain.

#29 68 days ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Consuming this garbage rots your brain.

Consuming any of this trash rots your brain. Pinside discourse adds fuel to the dumpster fire. We all need psychiatrists. Also Stern sucks and they are ruining my life and I am so mad and I just cannot believe what they are doing and I can't sleep at night and my wife is going to leave me and my work performance is suffering and I hate strangers and I love guns.

#30 68 days ago
Quoted from alex_m:

Consuming any of this trash rots your brain. Pinside discourse adds fuel to the dumpster fire. We all need psychiatrists. Also Stern sucks and they are ruining my life and I am so mad and I just cannot believe what they are doing and I can't sleep at night and my wife is going to leave me and my work performance is suffering and I hate strangers and I love guns.

Somebody get this man a pinball podcast / youtube channel!

#32 68 days ago

How many threads do we need whining about this same crap? Don’t buy the game. There are plenty of other options for you. Move on and enjoy your life and stop living in outrage culture. You’ll live longer.

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#33 68 days ago

Yeah... Ummm... I'm not reading all of that

#34 68 days ago

All of these threads about JW having no guns on the playfield (out of the box) have made me so enraged that I'm beginning to see everything that is missing guns, and it's enraging me even further.

I'm calling for, no, DEMANDING that everyone boycott Little Tikes for infringing upon my 2nd amendment rights to have guns everywhere. Looking at this picture just makes me so mad now that I can no longer play with it with my son. Now we're both crying.

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#35 68 days ago

Why don't all of you haters put your own money together and try to see how far short you come to make a pinball machine from license to designer and mechanical engineer(since you want new toys) artists and so on. Get off this site until you know what it takes to run around a 100 million dollar business. Pinball is not a art piece you find at art galleries. It's not children's toy. And it's not a video game. I grind every day to provide for my family.

#36 68 days ago
Quoted from staceyflip:

Watching Cary Hardy....

Annnnnd I'm out.

#37 68 days ago

Remember that dude that used to post paragraphs every time he posted anything?
This gal makes him look like Silent Bob.

#38 68 days ago
Quoted from alex_m:

Consuming any of this trash rots your brain. Pinside discourse adds fuel to the dumpster fire. We all need psychiatrists. Also Stern sucks and they are ruining my life and I am so mad and I just cannot believe what they are doing and I can't sleep at night and my wife is going to leave me and my work performance is suffering and I hate strangers and I love guns.

Wait, I have seen this before. Yea, this is definitely pre-workout talking...

#39 68 days ago
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#40 68 days ago

They are cheap out WTF they won’t sell to many oh Stern what are u thinking

#41 67 days ago

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#42 67 days ago

Spinal tap - doesnt go to 11
Bttf - no delorean
Abba - 6 finger guitar solo
Jaws - boat is too small
Halloween - butterknife
Big lebowski - thats just your opinion man
Pirates of the carribean - no jack sparrow
Guns n roses - not in this liftime
James bond - missile too big
James bond $25k - no ramps included
Pult fiction - no screen mother f***er!

#43 67 days ago

staceyflip
— I share your disappointment over Jaws (and John Wick, if I was a fan). It does feel like Stern has ‘peaked’ and is now churning out ‘okay’ pins (and re-runs) at the highest possible price.

— Insider Connected isn’t harder to use than the automated updates. If you set yourself up as ‘home team’, you can login with the left flipper and it automatically gives you badges and useful scoring data. Sometimes there’s a month of challenges, which can be fun to try at home.

— Pins are best enjoyed on location. Only buy the ones you truly love, rather than flipping.

— Yes, EJ is better than the current clutch of Sterns. Stern now have serious competition for the first time in decades. I also have a TNA CE, which is super.

— Stern LEs are not good value. They’re a ‘whale trap’ to catch people for whom £16k (in the UK) isn’t a lot of money.

— Yes, definitely try some older pins. Once you stop flipping new Sterns, the whole history of pinball is there for you to enjoy!

Don’t get mad! Play pinball

#44 67 days ago
Quoted from eckelpeckel:

Halloween - butterknife

Pretty sure it's a Trick or Treat prop butcher knife unless your disappointed it's not a real one.

#45 67 days ago
Quoted from Veemonroe:

staceyflip
— I share your disappointment over Jaws (and John Wick, if I was a fan). It does feel like Stern has ‘peaked’ and is now churning out ‘okay’ pins (and re-runs) at the highest possible price.
— Insider Connected isn’t harder to use than the automated updates. If you set yourself up as ‘home team’, you can login with the left flipper and it automatically gives you badges and useful scoring data. Sometimes there’s a month of challenges, which can be fun to try at home.
— Pins are best enjoyed on location. Only buy the ones you truly love, rather than flipping.
— Yes, EJ is better than the current clutch of Sterns. Stern now have serious competition for the first time in decades. I also have a TNA CE, which is super.
— Stern LEs are not good value. They’re a ‘whale trap’ to catch people for whom £16k (in the UK) isn’t a lot of money.
— Yes, definitely try some older pins. Once you stop flipping new Sterns, the whole history of pinball is there for you to enjoy!
Don’t get mad! Play pinball

OMG! That’s $31,500 Aussie for an LE. We pay $20,500. Your imports suck! And you’re closer to Chicago then we are. Someone’s doing alright out of this deal and it’s not you poor Pommy pinball owners. Feel for you.

#46 67 days ago
Quoted from Nevus:

1733 Words!
I see you have six great games. Maybe go and flip them a little. Life's too short to get so upset over something you can't control.

You took the time to count all the words? I could even read the whole rant.

#47 67 days ago
Quoted from blueberryjohnson:

Stern is doing all of this on purpose.
Whatever you wrote—and from the length and capitalization, I can tell it is a blistering truth bomb of righteousness—isn't even one-tenth the terrbile story. The reality is so, so much worse.
Stern is run by a depraved and demented cabal whose only desire is to separate you from your money with increasingly and intentionally terrible W-O-K-E games designed to disappoint and disgust. Why? Because the only thing Stern Pinball hates more than pinball is people who love pinball. And freedom.

I don’t know why but I believe you.

#48 67 days ago
Quoted from m00nmuppet:

I actually saw it when the EJ at Ayce Gogi drove people out of the bar area. It started playing "I'm Still Standing" and four people made faces and left. Can't blame them.

Their loss. Great location, great game, great song.

#50 67 days ago

Personally I can’t wait for the first hip hop pin where half the people here act like rap isn’t music and then those same people get really offended when the game doesn’t have the n word all over it.

What do you mean ODB doesn’t eat the ball then call you a [fill in the blank]

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