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John Wart/That Pinball Place- need boards back please!

By pinballplusMN

6 years ago


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  • Latest reply 6 years ago by delt31
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    #1 6 years ago
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    JMR

    pinballplusMN

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    I have sent several emails and phone calls to John to no avail. He has $400+ worth of my boards. He has had since October 2016. For months he let me know they would be done soon. I have spoken to other people and he has their money as well. Sometimes people actually get the roms they ordered from his site but it takes a while. Others are not so lucky.
    I am a reasonable person if one has a crisis or family issue. I just expect communication as any customer would. I entrusted this individual with my customers boards and I had to delay their repairs and use my own stock to get them running which doesn't make me look good.
    I do not have any ill will as I dont know the situation. I do however believe if an individual has time to post on facebook (Aug 17th) the least they can do is keep their customers updated and respond to emails/phone calls/fb messages.
    - Just please send my boards back . I will pay return shipping. JR

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    #2 6 years ago
     
    JSW

    WeirPinball

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    I just got a tracking # from John - Myself and a friend had over $1000 in boards there since Jan. We finally threatened legal action and were a day or two from a visit with the police. Didn't want to do that, but with no communication from John, it's what we had to do...

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    #3 6 years ago
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    JMR

    pinballplusMN

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    Will consider doing the same. Don't want to though.

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    #4 6 years ago
     
    JSW

    WeirPinball

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    Quoted from pinballplusMN:

    Will consider doing the same. Don't want to though.

    There is an another way to send a message - if we all stop doing business with him in the future. Good luck getting your stuff back.

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    #5 6 years ago
     
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    FatPanda

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    That's hard if you're "not in the know." His website is still up and he is accepting payments, and it sounds like the boards were sent in good faith before he "went dark."

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    #6 6 years ago
     
    LER

    Lermods

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    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    There is an another way to send a message - if we all stop doing business with him in the future. Good luck getting your stuff back.

    I have done this. I now buy my roms from action pinball and I'll send boards to ardvark or Chris hibler if needed.

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    #7 6 years ago
     
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    KornFreak28

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    Chris Hibler rocks

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    #8 6 years ago
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    JMR

    pinballplusMN

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    I like chris's work as well. Very thorough and clean work. Emails updates and fair pricing. He will getting my business from now on. I use boygard as well. I used to be able to fix this stuff but with my aging eyes it's getting tougher..

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    #9 6 years ago
     
    JWW

    Gatecrasher

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    US Moline, IL

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    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    I just got a tracking # from John - Myself and a friend had over $1000 in boards there since Jan. We finally threatened legal action and were a day or two from a visit with the police. Didn't want to do that, but with no communication from John, it's what we had to do...

    Do you really think the police would have done anything?

    Not hardly. Police don't get involved with petty stuff like this. Not unless you paid the $120 or so fee to have the sheriff serve them with a summons to appear in small claims court. That's where you settle disputes like this. Then of course you would have to appear too in order to get anything if they don't settle with you before the court date.

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    #10 6 years ago
     
    JWW

    Gatecrasher

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    US Moline, IL

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    Been there. Done that.

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    #11 6 years ago
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    JMR

    pinballplusMN

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    Recieved my boards finally from john. Hope he can get back on track with his life whatever the issues are.

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    #12 6 years ago
     
    JSW

    WeirPinball

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    Quoted from Gatecrasher:

    Do you really think the police would have done anything?
    Not hardly. Police don't get involved with petty stuff like this. Not unless you paid the $120 or so fee to have the sheriff serve them with a summons to appear in small claims court. That's where you settle disputes like this. Then of course you would have to appear too in order to get anything if they don't settle with you before the court date.

    Yes, police escort and he would have got felony charges since the boards were over 1k

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    #13 6 years ago
     
    JWW

    Gatecrasher

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    US Moline, IL

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    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    Yes, police escort and he would have got felony charges since the boards were over 1k

    Zero chance of that ever happening.

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    #14 6 years ago
     
    RAR

    beelzeboob

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    This bums me out to no end. He's a great guy who gave a great service to this hobby and helped me on numerous occasions. So sad this happened.

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    #15 6 years ago
     
    EDE

    Ericpinballfan

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    Quoted from pinballplusMN:

    Recieved my boards finally from john. Hope he can get back on track with his life whatever the issues are.

    Were the boards fixed? Or untouched?
    Dont know what his deal is, but hes let me down this year and i had to move on.

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    #16 6 years ago
     
    JSW

    WeirPinball

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    edited

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    #17 6 years ago
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    JMR

    pinballplusMN

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    I recieved the boards back untouched as I sent them. A thanks to John for finally sending them. I wish we were offered some explanation as many of us have supported his company for years and would understand if the issue was explained.

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    #18 6 years ago
     
    SLM

    Slim64

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    Quoted from WeirPinball:

    ok - guess you know everything about this specific case.

    I think you may have quoted the wrong guy.

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    #19 6 years ago
     
    EDE

    Ericpinballfan

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    Quoted from Slim64:

    I think you may have quoted the wrong guy.

    Thanks bro. Very familiar with this fiasco and involved first hand. First it was web site, then his ebay name, got burned both times. I wish him the best, but at this point forgiveness hard given any situation. We all have problems, life can suck and throw you a million curveballs, but by now he could at least said ...i need a year off guys....thats all, would have been that simple.

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    #20 6 years ago
     
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    fishmanrob

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    Chris Hibler in St. Louis MO is the guy. Contact Chris and see if he will take the work.

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    #21 6 years ago
     
    SLM

    Slim64

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    Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

    Thanks bro. Very familiar with this fiasco and involved first hand. First it was web site, then his ebay name, got burned both times. I wish him the best, but at this point forgiveness hard given any situation. We all have problems, life can suck and throw you a million curveballs, but by now he could at least said ...i need a year off guys....thats all, would have been that simple.

    i agree 100% with you. Just a little message or something up front, would have saved a lot of us the headaches.

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    #22 6 years ago
     
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    KornFreak28

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    Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

    Thanks bro. Very familiar with this fiasco and involved first hand. First it was web site, then his ebay name, got burned both times. I wish him the best, but at this point forgiveness hard given any situation. We all have problems, life can suck and throw you a million curveballs, but by now he could at least said ...i need a year off guys....thats all, would have been that simple.

    Well said

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    #23 6 years ago
     
    CK

    C_kubie

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    US Chicago, IL

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    How did you get a hold of John to get your boards back?
    I've sent emails for updates and to have the boards returned but I never get a response. Certified letter?
    Could someone message me his number to reach him?

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    #24 6 years ago
     
    MAB

    DeathHimself

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    Another shout out for Chris, excellent board work.

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    #25 6 years ago
     
    DJB

    delt31

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    Chris is the best - highly recommened.

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