Should we have patted him on the back? Represent Pinside....oh please. The guy comes here with, I have a story to tell all of you. Then it's nah , nevermind, my facebook group is bigger and I don't feel like typing. Talk about being frickin RUDE!

Let's just write the guy a check for pinsider of the year. Does that represent Pinside a little better?

Meh. In the time OP took to write the original post, he could have quickly summarized his situation, like so (obviously I don't have personal knowledge of any of this, this is just boiled down from the Facebook screengrabs by way of example, point is it ain't Moby Dick and can be summarized in a paragraph):

Made a trade+cash deal with Joe, we agreed I would drive my game up by truck and meet at his home to finish the deal. I drove seven hours and he bailed on our meeting time so I had to get a hotel. Then the next morning he refused to even meet me, claiming with no basis that I didn't have the money (I sent pictures to prove it), and at one point threatening to call the police if I came to his property. I kept trying to work things out and we eventually completed the trade, but then he claimed I had underpaid (we counted the money in public together, I didn't), and then after I had the game loaded demanded additional money beyond what we'd agreed to "release" the topper to me. Total nightmare to deal with, stay far away from this guy!

Instead, OP started a thread inviting others to post their own negative comments, said he'd post his own experience shortly, and then never did. Unless you've never been on an internet forum before, it's not shocking that this didn't play well. I know you like to have the last word so I'll leave you to it, but you've got the wrong end of the stick on this one.

This OP is not exactly a class act himself. Looks at the countless posts on Pinside of him acting like a jackass...

Not saying the seller didn't try to screw him but seems like a good match to me.

And thats just one part of the story... there are about 50 comments on the thread. Plus You are glossing over this was a live situation and presumably was more active on facebook because over there were several sources who actually had something to say about the guys past... including several first hand accounts. Basically.... thats where the actual engagement was happening live.

Read the thread there verse the one hear and see a polar opposite of help and attitude.

So you’re saying he got support and advice in the forum where he provided the details? Sounds about right.

Am I correct in saying this guy got a NIB Wonka for a roadshow and 1400 cash as an end result of this story?

That’s how I read it. It would definitely make more sense why he sent a driver and paid for a hotel.

Sure looks that way, and yet 27 people downvoted him? this place is fucking weird.

after reading the facebook bits, I agree this Zenk fella seems batshit crazy. But OP got a good deal in the end? Maybe crazy worked the other way this time?

Interesting that rzenk1 replacement account was created over 2 years ago. Old jzenk1 account deactivated a few months ago, so he was dual-accounting for 2 years. Never a good/honest reason to do that.

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The OP has a history of being a jackass. People remember.

Looks like both accounts are deactivated now.

Gotcha.

Dude, sorry, but you are defending the wrong side on this one. It's OK, just admit it. It's not like we all don't already know.

Maybe those not on FB will get the details when the OP has more time. Patience is a virtue.

Not in this hobby.

And not on Pinside!

Since the op got his deal he has no reason to update. Seems simple to me. It was a travesty upon him until he got the smoking deal he wanted now he could not care less.

No one comes out smelling good on this one.

My bad

Kinda confused about your comment.

OP and his driver got royally screwed over here. Also seems Zenk's pretty wife ran inside and took cash.

What's with the shitty comments dude? And please correct me or inform me as to what i'm missing here?

Pinside doesn't suck.

Some of it's members do.

Thanks for coming back to fill in the details, should be a helpful warning for Pinsiders in the future thinking of doing business with this joker.

Thanks for the warning.

For what it's worth, OP trades a lot of pins in the Richmond area on facebook. I have never personally traded with him, but have traded with those who have whom speak highly of him that I trust. He almost got my Champion Pub and I should have jumped on his High Speed. If you ever get a chance to trade with OP (not the Joe guy), his pins are really nice.

I have always been told if the shoe fits...

Here, let me explain why I called you an ass. Nah, nevermind, do your own research. Sound familiar?

I am not one to really speak on these things but I was personally stolen from by Mr. Zenk. I was unaware I was stolen from for a significant amount of time, then when I called to ask him about the matter I was told his autistic child found his wife dead in a pool of blood. Ay that moment I was concerned for a human being on the other side of the coin. I didn't bother joe and assured him I would be there for him if he needed anything. When I hung up I felt like a piece of trash because I was calling about my property and a man's wife was lost. None of this was true however. I found out by a mutual acquaintance telling me that I was dreaming and this dude is a known scam artist. I then spoke with some of our staff and other individuals I knew within the pinball community. I reached back out to zenk and he then began some of the thing antics that are described in this thread. "you theatened my son" "I have dirt on you and I'll tell everyone, etc". I just simply told him that his wife was not dead. That was not cool to pretend that and I will see him in court of some manner. Unfortunately for him I now have what I need to proceed with court. Video footage at my shop, testimony from employees that helped him and a paper trail. If anyone wants to join me in this venture that has been wrong by Mr. Zenk aka being "zenked". Please reach out to me here and I will help you in your journey to bring this dude to justice. Keep in mind he will threaten you with "he will protect himself" and "I'm a licensed firearm card holder" but let's not forget the classic, "I'll do whatever is necessary to protect my family"

Sorry for the long and drawn out response to this thread. Thank you to the OP for making us aware of the situation. I personally will never start a thread in this manner but it takes some guys to call someone out and for that I appreciate ya. I don't know some of the people chiming in about zenk but please reach me if you care to know another friend in the hobby.

Cheers,

Chris M

Here's the new Pinsdie handle that Joe Zenk goes by (Rslack2). Here's his most recent ad (see below). I go Zenked for sure. I have a HUO TSPP I was trading with cash for the machine. My TSPP is at my buddy's house in Cleveland and I reached out to the ad and we quickly come to a deal. We set up a time for that my buddy will be home and he'll bring the game over. My buddy jumps through hoops all day to make this work and about an hour before the trade he reaches out and send pictures of it having cabinet damage so we hit pause on the deal. My buddy's Spidey senses goes off and he tells me to reach out to other Pinsider's in the area with a TSPP. Sure enough I reach another Pinsider and a few weeks ago him and Joe come to a deal and right before the trade he states to this Pinsider he just found the cabinet damage/etc. This dude gets off wasting others time.
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/archive/113720

It looks like the account has been deactivated by it's owner

He jerked me around for a week and a half we made a deal and he insisted he delivered to me. We set up a time and he as a no show. He has been messaging me constantly but I quit responding after I read this thread.

Sorry to hear that Jim. I would have done the same.

Agreed. Thanks!

He still has the Guns and Roses on Facebook. BEWARE

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/another-one-to-watch-out-for-rslack2

Joe also did this exact run around to me and my buddy. Had 2 games in on a trade "for GNR". He flaked out first time after I packed up my game. THen flaked out a second time. Then flaked out a 3rd time after again packing up a game. THen he started blatantly lying about the condition of the playfield after sending pics. Like.... DUDE I CAN SEE THE PICTURES!

After I told him the deal was off he tells me he will drive all the way to me (after telling me I have to pay him to meet half way for his time and gas). I have ignored him.

This was at least a 3 week process. RSLACK2 was his handle on here but he has left. I had him Paypal me $20 (that I never accepted) and his name was on it. The original deal was a $200 deposit and he said "paypal would only let me send $20."

I think he's bipolar as well. LMAO

Yeah, he keeps messaging me also wanting to still do the deal but the dude is borderline CRAZY!!!!

Did the same thing with me on a TSPP. Definitely AVOID

He messaged me wanting my Munsters topper.he had no money and wanted me to trade my topper and 1-3 of my games for his GnR. I had no trade but offered cash and topper and he declined.

You don’t want to deal with him... trust me. His GNR cabinet is all beat up

The only pics he sent me were of the game wrapped up. This guy is a piece of work.

I won't be

He does own one. I didn’t think he did but he does. He literally torched the cabinet though when he got it. I believe it dropped from a significant height because the cabinet is cracked on the bottom on both sides.

That will drop the price by several hundred

Spoiler alert:
It was not the last time he posted here.

Ha. I started in the High Speed thread and re-read this one and so wanted to point this out too.

Buyer beware looks like Joe is trying to sell his Guns and Roses cough cough again.

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I like how he doesn’t disclose the cabinet damage…I’m sure he’ll agree to a trade and then disclose the day of the trade, like he’s done on the last 3-4 trades on this machine

I want to know who gave him 6 stars