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Joe Balcer confirms Oktoberfest as American Pinball's next pin.


By PismoArcade

1 year ago



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#601 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

The negative stigmata about booze in America is 100% about drinking and driving:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2016/08/11/the-worst-countries-in-the-world-for-drunk-driving-infographic/#7e14231f2f5c
Note how we're 3x worse than Germany. (probably because our country is 10x bigger meaning less public transport and a lot of rural folks getting DUI's)
I think it would be interesting to see a map of the decline of DUI in cities with Uber versus the rural areas.

I think in the USA it is and has always been about an attempt to legislate morality here in the south several states still have "blue" laws that prevent alcohol sales before noon on Sunday.

#602 1 year ago
Quoted from konjurer:

For a crappy picture I think I like the vibe.
API - why would you allow this crappy picture to be released? I would release a high res picture immediately. Take control of your marketing messages for heavens sake!

I do not believe it was supposed to be released.

#603 1 year ago
Quoted from BarryJ:

I do not believe it was supposed to be released.

Barry, I guessed that was probably the case.

My point was that a little damage control might be in order. We've seen this happen with every manufacturer. People go ape shit over a grainy image of an art package and that sets the mob mentality in motion. You only get once chance at a first impression of your game - which is already under a lot of scrutiny over the theme. Do you really want the dirndl-wearing serving girl to be the mom-jeans guy that now comes up in every conversation about Dialed In? I'm guessing that artwork looks great in real life - just release a high res image now. I bet Chris K is going to go ape shit when he sees that yet another company has had a low res image released - one of his top 10 pinball marketing missteps.

#604 1 year ago
Quoted from konjurer:

Barry, I guessed that was probably the case.
My point was that a little damage control might be in order. We've seen this happen with every manufacturer. People go ape shit over a grainy image of an art package and that sets the mob mentality in motion. You only get once chance at a first impression of your game - which is already under a lot of scrutiny over the theme. Do you really want the dirndl-wearing serving girl to be the mom-jeans guy that now comes up in every conversation about Dialed In? I'm guessing that artwork looks great in real life - just release a high res image now. I bet Chris K is going to go ape shit when he sees that yet another company has had a low res image released - one of his top 10 pinball marketing missteps.

We are looking into it. This is above my pay grade but I do have an opinion on it, and I will keep it to myself.

#605 1 year ago
Quoted from BarryJ:

We are looking into it. This is above my pay grade but I do have an opinion on it, and I will keep it to myself.

Smart play lol. With only a week to unveil I can't imagine anyone is going to die waiting a week.

#606 1 year ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

With only a week to unveil I can't imagine anyone is going to die waiting a week.

We could easily lose a few Pinsiders this week waiting for an exciting, new American Pinball machine to be unveiled.

LTG : )

#607 1 year ago

Flyer looks ok except for the ridiculous anatomy of the girl.

Art isn't incredible, but neither was Houdini and it looks good as a whole once all lit up. Looks like the same artist.

No reason to freak out, but no reason to be hugely excited about the 'leak' either.

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#608 1 year ago

unfortunate someone felt the need to share crappy photos they plucked off some video or something, just so they could be the first to share them.

But if you guys really need something to keep the conversation going . . .

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#609 1 year ago
Quoted from rosh:

unfortunate someone felt the need to share crappy photos they plucked off some video or something, just so they could be the first to share them.
But if you guys really need something to keep the conversation going . . .
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Motorboating feature confirmed.

#610 1 year ago
Quoted from rosh:

But if you guys really need something to keep the conversation going . . .

Oh my beer swilling friends. They put all the flipper buttons on the right side and forgot to put any on the left.

Just kidding. You know they have something really great planned for that extra button.

LTG : )

#611 1 year ago

Thursday night's seminar at Expo is looking better and better !

LTG : )

#612 1 year ago
Quoted from LTG:

Thursday night's seminar at Expo is looking better and better !
LTG : )

We will cover the whole day at the LTG fireside chat seminar! The one event not to miss.

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#613 1 year ago
Quoted from LTG:

Oh my beer swilling friends. They put all the flipper buttons on the right side and forgot to put any on the left.

Would be hilarious if that was one of the modes though. A beer in hand mode where those two buttons operate both flippers.

#614 1 year ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Would be hilarious if that was one of the modes though. A beer in hand mode where those two buttons operate both flippers.

The creative genius of Josh and crew could have all kinds of things planned for that extra button. I'll bet it's more than one thing.

LTG : )

#615 1 year ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

LTG fireside chat seminar! The one event not to miss.

You are too kind.

LTG : )

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#616 1 year ago
Quoted from rosh:

unfortunate someone felt the need to share crappy photos they plucked off some video or something, just so they could be the first to share them.

Oops, sorry, I can take them down if you like, let me know. I honestly didn't realize they were secret. I thought you guys must have authorized Joe from Pinball Star to show the picture at the York Show, it's from his video on Facebook. I'm just excited about the game.

#617 1 year ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

Would be hilarious if that was one of the modes though. A beer in hand mode where those two buttons operate both flippers.

That would actually be pretty cool

#618 1 year ago

They need to fix the staggeringly awful female character before Expo if possible.

It's beyond bad, no amount of "bad photo" or "grain" caused that to happen.

#619 1 year ago
Quoted from rosh:

But if you guys really need something to keep the conversation going . . .
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What the hey Rosh?! The red button is under the blue button and not vice versa?!!! Everybody knows that a red button should ALWAYS be on top! Not to mention that it should be bigger as well.

UNACCEPTABLE!!! Pre-order cancelled.

(of course)

#620 1 year ago
Quoted from rosh:

unfortunate someone felt the need to share crappy photos they plucked off some video or something, just so they could be the first to share them.
But if you guys really need something to keep the conversation going . . .
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First conventional (not P3) machine in the 2000s with more than one flipper button on each side?

Also, dunno if that's final, but the big AP logo (and it's an unloved one according to all feedback I've seen) on the side IMO isn't the greatest choice aesthetically.

#621 1 year ago

i see a positive here. with the pinside discussion involving greta taking place before expo reveal, it may not be the hot topic it would have been otherwise. the actual game/layout/package has a better chance to come to the forefront. they have months to adjust the art. simply let people know they are aware of it and will be taking appropriate measures to fix it.

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#622 1 year ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

First conventional (not P3) machine in the 2000s with more than one flipper button on each side?

Double buttons may only be on one side. First game ever for that?

#623 1 year ago
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:

Double buttons may only be on one side. First game ever for that?

Harley Davidson.

#624 1 year ago

Quite a few games with double buttons on only one side. From this same designer (Joe Balcer) there was Starship Troopers. WCS94 is probably one of the more well-known titles with that configuration.

#625 1 year ago
Quoted from Ferret:

Quite a few games with double buttons on only one side. From this same designer (Joe Balcer) there was Starship Troopers. WCS94 is probably one of the more well-known titles with that configuration.

Sst miniflipper is likely th best use of an extra flipper button ever! So much fun and so well done for a unique feel that still plays great!

#626 1 year ago
Quoted from BarryJ:

I do not believe it was supposed to be released.

Barry,
Pictures were specifically sent to me by AP because they were released to other distributors previously specifically to do marketing items. I didn’t ask for anything not even knew they existed, I was offered them.
Joe

#627 1 year ago

Man I hope the pictures floating around really aren’t what the backglass is going to look like because that looks like shit.

#628 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

They need to fix the staggeringly awful female character before Expo if possible.
It's beyond bad, no amount of "bad photo" or "grain" caused that to happen.

It’s a feature. She gets more attractive the more you drink.
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#629 1 year ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

Barry,
Pictures were specifically sent to me by AP because they were released to other distributors previously specifically to do marketing items. I didn’t ask for anything not even knew they existed, I was offered them.
Joe

Cointaker had marketing up at the York show too.

#630 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinphila:

Cointaker had marketing up at the York show too.

oops

#631 1 year ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

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Edit: Loool! The Forum showed me ZMeny talking to ZMeny, not your Name, sorry!!! XD

That's a bug in the board. Sometimes it shows the posts assigned to the wrong people, but a refresh fixes it.

#632 1 year ago
Quoted from greenhornet:

they have months to adjust the art.

Because only in the world of pinball is it acceptable for a game called OCTOBERFEST to be released in December.

#633 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

Because only in the world of pinball is it acceptable for a game called OCTOBERFEST to be released in December.

Scheibenkleister! I sure hope it's not called Octoberfest, they won't sell a single machine.

#634 1 year ago
Quoted from Ferret:

Quite a few games with double buttons on only one side. From this same designer (Joe Balcer) there was Starship Troopers. WCS94 is probably one of the more well-known titles with that configuration.

Shadow? It is both side if I remember well for each ramp.

Anyway I’m really amazed of all the mess about a simple pic. Ok the girl position looks strange.
How can a sane person imagine that API is ruining the sale of his game coz of this pic?
I have seen so many weird trailer or whatever to reveal a new game..
Rosh posted a very interesting pic...now I want another pic of the other side
I hope this second button is for controlling diverter ramp?

#635 1 year ago

Friday night fun! Living in Chicagoland has its perks.6760AE8F-E1EC-4B82-825B-22CDFC6C2A1F (resized).jpeg

#636 1 year ago
Quoted from Budman:

My family has been in the beer distributing business for 70 years....How can I NOT be in on this one? It might even past muster with the IRS !

i am drinking beer for 40 years now, so how can i egnore this one.

#637 1 year ago
Quoted from rosh:

unfortunate someone felt the need to share crappy photos they plucked off some video or something, just so they could be the first to share them.
But if you guys really need something to keep the conversation going . . .
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Mechanical stein ball save..

#638 1 year ago
Quoted from colonel_caverne:

How can a sane person imagine that API is ruining the sale of his game coz of this pic?

Because pinball has become 100% about art.

#639 1 year ago
Quoted from benheck:

Because pinball has become 100% about art.

they may as well buy a painting!

#640 1 year ago

Oktoberfest backglass.

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#641 1 year ago

Well...it is just a flyer after watching Joes video...hey joe, turn machines on next time.
The oktoberfest flyer looks interesting, makes me want a beer.
Reminds me of the promotional translight for Houdini. We really wont know till next week the full look of game.

#642 1 year ago
Quoted from djreddog:

Oktoberfest backglass. [quoted image]

lol
Love the duck!

#643 1 year ago
Quoted from djreddog:

Oktoberfest backglass. [quoted image]

Wow, Cointaker must have had to pay a bunch to get on every backglass.

#644 1 year ago
Quoted from vireland:

Wow, Cointaker must have had to pay a bunch to get on every backglass.

You have them confused with Coin Taker beer.

#645 1 year ago
Quoted from PinballSTAR:

Barry,
Pictures were specifically sent to me by AP because they were released to other distributors previously specifically to do marketing items. I didn’t ask for anything not even knew they existed, I was offered them.
Joe

I guess someone forgot that they authorized the release of them.

#646 1 year ago
Quoted from djreddog:

Oktoberfest backglass. [quoted image]

That is not the backglass.

#647 1 year ago
Quoted from BarryJ:

That is not the backglass.

Barry - blessed with a keen sense of the obvious.

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#648 1 year ago

My 2 cents for this thread...

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#649 1 year ago
Quoted from Sidekick74:

My 2 cents for this thread...
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#650 1 year ago

Tuckey's known for his strong German accent.

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