If one doesn't want his finances to be public concern, then one shouldn't put out admittedly "ambiguous" press releases about his finances. Nevermind what should be expected when pulling the press release down. Square those feet in the sights some more.

That is not the point at all. And you know it. I don't care one way or the other anymore, but the self destruction is phenomenally interesting to watch.

I am still interested in WOZ one day to a degree, but not until the current LED locking issues are thoroughly sniffed out and quashed. It isn't so much a car wreck that is interesting to rubberneck, it is the pouring of more and more gasoline onto the ground, hoping that no one flicks a cigarette out the window. The financials and warranty issues are the most recent public steps in dog shit that come to mind. I still don't get either one of them.

Sit down, Kaneda. You have no reference point in this conversation, regardless of what you think you have seen in the past on other forums. You spend a solid week reading every single thread on the issue, listening to every podcast interview, reviewing every convention speech video, reading every article and promise and declaration since 2011, and maybe you have the right to even have an opinion on something other than spamming the board with _____ vs _____ threads or "Sell Me Your TRON LE!!!!!" threads.

I haven't noticed him or his posting history. But I remain adamant that anyone that was not present and attentive during the 3+ year history of this saga, and hasn't lived with the butterfly effect of each flap of the wings in this thing should not be standing on chairs addressing the room right now. In defense or in critique.

True, true and true. But the reason people can't understand the process is the man out front talking the loudest, ignoring the realities of the process and making assurances and declarations that have proven to be laughably wrong and misguided. It is easy to make people understand the complexities of logistics when you are honest about the production timeframe from day one. With yourself and with your customers. It is easy to make people understand the complexities of programming when you are honest about the development schedule from day one. With yourself and your customers. Missing self-imposed production deadlines in a tremendously FAIL way, and selling yourself on completed code by machine shipping and then just not doing that at all.....makes it tough to just chalk it up to complexities in the process. No one was touring the country stirring up a frenzy and trashing other manufacturers with "process and complexities" talks.

As I just said in the "is JJP good for pinball" thread, we all have interest and equity in this thing, if only for the ripple effects throughout the hobby. If it brings in new blood and $$$, we all benefit. If it makes one person turn from the hobby out of frustration, we all suffer. Same is true for Stern. And Dutch. And SkitB.