JJPOTC looks like a great pin either way, but I am still really disappointed at the loss of the three disks. The whole thing makes me think of this:
I really have no knowledge in this area, but wouldn’t 1000 or more preorders be huge? First of all, we are talking about a subset of the pinball population who buys NIB, and the most expensive NIB games at that. Then, we are talking about those who plunk down money (albeit refundable) on a game they haven’t played, or played very little of, even though it will be sold for years and there is no risk in not getting one at some point. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure JJP will sell well in excess of 2000 or 3000 games. I would just be really surprised if there are that many who actually preorder.
Quoted from jcoble:
Is no one else bothered by the fact that the ship rocks from side to side and not front to back? Sailing ships were built and the rigging braced with forward to back roll in mind, whereas a strong sideways roll could rapidly break her stays and dismast a ship, if she didn't broach to first.
I think we can allow some creative license on that.
I finally got to play this at Pintastic. Unfortunately, I find that the JJP games that are brought to most shows have their flipper power dialed down, so it makes it hard to get a good feel for the game. Still, I was very impressed, and it seemed like there was a lot going on on the playfield. I played one of the older prototypes with the 3 disks, but the disks didn't work very well. And, I really didn't pay attention to that mech that much because there was so much else to do. I think this is going to be a huge seller for JJP once people start getting their hands on it, and it gets set up properly.
Quoted from musketd:
I just don’t understand Eric’s thinking on this game he has divertors everywhere on this thing but none for the right ramp; that should have been one of the first things in the game; ohh well
I don’t understand the rationale for a diverter on the right ramp. What do you mean?
Quoted from JY64:
They still have not sold out of there money grab model of DI and that run is only 150 games
But that's for the extreme collector, is much higher in price than the next model and really doesn't come with anything more in terms of game. I believe JJP sells more LEs than standards even though it is the same game. They know their market, and they know how to price. If this wasn't working for them, they would not be about to launch their 4th pin and actively designing two others.
Quoted from JY64:
With $8000 being JJP lowest price point for his games all are for the extreme collector non-pinheads would find $5300/$5400 for a Stern Pro extreme.
I wouldn’t consider myself an extreme collector. I only have 4 pins, and 2 are JJP. If I get another, I will sell one to fund it. In that way, it is only an incremental cost to me from here on out.
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