Oh pinside, you can be so dramatic.

Having played the prototype approx 30-40 times, I must say this change is welcomed. My two biggest concerns about the game were these 2 mechs. In the 30-40 games I played (half at banning and half at Ayce Gogi), the chest only worked one time. Making this toy not only a reliable locking Mech, but a reliable shot was very much needed.

As for the spinning disk; when it worked, it was cool. But it worked about 50% of the time, the other times it would do this stutter step thing like it was on its last life, it did not look or play well. We haven’t seen the new Mech in action so really can’t comment on it, but as bigd mentioned, reliability and playability are the important factors here.

I vote you all put your pinside drama aside until you see the new mechs in action. JJP pins are still the best >$8k pins on the market to date, and there’s a reason for that. Nothing else compares for the price, even IMDN-LE.

LOL you guys haven't even seen the new mech's in action and you're already crying wolf. Give it some time, let's see how this plays out and more importantly how the new disk is in actual game play; I know, what a concept.

Yes we’ve seen spinning disks a lot. Some good, some bad. We have not seen how this new disk will be with this design and this layout and how it will ultimately effect the ball and gameplay. That said, the original disk was bad ass....when it worked; key words, when it worked. If you guys want an expensive pin that doesn’t work, go preorder Aliens or TBL.

And fwiw; I’m not trying to sound like a Shill for JJP. Hell, I have an IMDN on its way. I just think we need to give Eric and his team the benefit of the doubt and respect that they know what they’re doing, and doing it for good cause.

Blasphemy; this is a collectors market and we want games that don’t work and are completely unreliable....but that looks good with good themes like aliens and big lewbowski. Enough with these working games.

Totally agree. The spinning disk was cool no doubt, but that’s not what sold me personally on the game so I’m still looking forward to seeing this game in all its glory.

That said; how much testing was/is needed on the 3-disk? It seems like it’s been 6 months; now they throw this new one in and go into production? Let’s hope it holds up.

Exactly.
I only watched 5 mins of the stream today; plan to watch the rest over the weekend. But the 5 mins I saw, that spinner was wicked and coded great! It even looked like it did more throwing than the prototype disk that I played, almost too much? Game looks superb. Now to get production rolling before stern hammers out another hit and I spend the rest of my JJPOTC $

https://www.twitch.tv/jjplive

They're live now. But i imagine the replay will be available on twitch just as the others' have.

FYI « Spoiler! Click to reveal. Keith qualified Movie 5 wizard mode on ball 1! can he bring it home on ball 2 or 3!?! »

OMG, hilarious! I Feel bad for Keith and wanted to check out the new wizard mode but I think that was better, classic moments in pinball!

The setup was pretty bad ass Keefer; you took the game on a whole different turn with that strategy showing that game isn't all about multiball stacking and how quick you can get to a wizard mode if that's your strategy. Eric just had to go ruin it with his Blackbeard endless multiball timers hah! Speaking of which, does Blackbeard have any penalties? im thinking all scores halved whenever ball saver is in effect perhaps?

Sterns POTC isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be, you’re not missing much. It has some cool multiball stacking features; other than that, if you like flipping a ball and watching it go somewhere other than back to your flippers, it may be the game for you.

Best drinking game ever

You should be excited. This looks to be JJP’s best. But yea, price of admission is a bit depressing.

Bad ass! I hope one day I can own one. Best new pin ever IMO. Gameplay, rules, code are the best I’ve played. Jonesing to play a production model. Congrats to JJP.

I'm gonna say the top one (panda) as that looks the most fun. The middle one is probably Eric Hogbog as it looks like something he could actually do lol. And the last one is everyone who bailed out of their preorder.

here's some random thoughts on JJPOTC. I don't buy into the hogwash hype is dead band wagon folks. Ive been around a bit and am a fairly good player; and while I've only played a test version of the game (about 50 games), I think this game is the best pin ive played. There are a few nuisances that detract me like the Chest lock (oh wait thats fixed) and the spinning disk not working (oh wait thats fixed) but the game, layout, software, rules, and amount of depth that went into this game as a whole is over the top best ive seen or played in any pin. Now I will say if you're a mode based type player, this pin may not be for you - the chapters are chapter scoring opportunities, not modes. Notice how they always refer to them as chapters (not modes) in the streams? So Being a player more than a collector, this is how I feel about JJPOTC - and I think gameplay, code, rules trump the rest of the aspects in games. Yes, the price of admission is very high - but if that's the case, do like most of us homeowners do and wait it out a bit and see how the tides fall. Just my 2 cents with my random thought of the day.

I think you'd get your game sooner if you took it out of your current collection since you technically don't have it yet

There’s an $8500 standard you can get.

To be fair I think the gap between JJP standard vs LE is far too narrow. Stern pros vs premium is roughly $2k~. Imagine how many units JJP could sell of pirates if the standard was $8k~ shipped.

They would certainly increase sales a ton with an <$8k Pirates. But perhaps their factory and labor can’t support a higher demand?

I’ll have to check out your streams, curious if there’s a good balance of brutality and progression. According to the JJP streams of the devs playing, the simple answer is yes.

I simply love this game but have been holding back posting a review simply because the production game I played ‘seems’ like it was setup too easy. I made it to the Kraken wizard mode in my first game. While the game itself doesn’t really have any traditional story mode sequences, the wizard modes (at least the Kraken) does, and it’s bad ass. I kind of like that integration where the game is about collecting characters (chapters) and pirating (gold, treasures, multiballs), then you get a story plot tie in (i.e. the Kraken), and things take a twist. It is very much like the movies in that there’s a lot going on with all sorts of characters and personalities which all get tied into one (or more) major scene. At least that’s how I see it.

All in all, fantastic game. I’m not sold on the new disk or map awards yet, but need more time on it and curious if there are settings in the menu to make the disk harder and map awards more rare.

I think the problem is that they got their first batch to operators, and then did a huge batch for oversees. So while it seems quiet here, lots and lots is going on behind the scenes and on the cargo sea lines. Not everyone lives on pinside despite popular belief im sure we'll see more in the next coming weeks, until then, check out Kevin/Buffalo Pinball on Twitch as he just got his and will be doing some streaming. He's good about answering questions in stream chat so fire away. I'm curious to see how difficult he has his game setup and how he enjoys it over Dialed In.

Did you get an ETA for yours yet?

My money is on KevInBuffalo tonight on twitch