I completely disagree. I would imagine Jack himself and others at JJP read these posts to get a feel for the pinhead community. They also listen closely to their distributors who influence their bottom line.

You used to have to pay for potential customer info, if you could even get it. They now get a specific market overview for free from message boards where people whine, moan, compliment, laugh and cry about their company, customer service and products. Collecting Jersey machines is a rich man's sport, so I can almost guarantee that they pay close attention to what the rich men are saying and doing related to their products and service.

Hi Jack! : ) - Your customer service is awesome, and I'm sure this setback will get fixed.

Is he in Somalia? I'm pretty sure they at least have dial up...

Where did you hear this? If you're implying that no one at JJP browses msg boards as a customer litmus test, you're implying that the company is outright stupid. I find this incredibly difficult to believe... Also, how would the "new boss" stop Jack from reading webpages? It's not like it takes long. I could browse this entire thread for a general sense in about 15 minutes.

The fact that the disc spins both directions and at varying speeds is great news. It would be nice to also know what the material on the disc will be made of. Will it be grippy, like the original WW disks, or grippier? If it will throw the ball around and switch speeds/directions often, it will be a great, NEW mech.

The issue we have here is how JJP communicated the change. Had the original video showcased this new disc, with it's cool functionality and the digital awards, I think preorders wouldn't have sunk so much. This has a lot going for it, but it just wasn't advertised.

I've never been interested in buying this because of the recycled theme that I never liked the first time, but I'm now excited to play it again. I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with this mech, assuming it can grip and rip balls around the playfield. Multiball will be even better!

It's not a question of if other people could do a good job on the voices, it's a question of if the owners of the license will allow it. It is very unlikely because they want to protect the authenticity of the license. An "almost Tom Hanks" is not good enough, and they couldn't give two turds about pinball.

Got a chance to play pirates with the multi-directional disk, and it did very little to the ball. I would argue that a single disk will be just as good if not better. Game was really fun to play, and it has a TON of mechs and toys. I Can’t get past Jonny depp’s face on the PF though. An original theme, even involving pirates, and I’d have my order in. Bummer.

I disagree, but there is an entire Richie thread about this argument...

It has to be set up for sure. I absolutely detest stern and most of their machines from the last decade, but imdn LE is the most addictive new game I’ve ever owned. It’s 4am here and I’m still awake because I needed ‘one more game.’ The game has bursts of epic flow, more so than any other stern or possibly any other machine I’ve ever played. The build quality, animations and number of toys is no match for jjp though!

You don't get a shirt, but you do get a meal with the key grip who worked on the second movie. You also get an empty rum bottle and a Disney jacket. TOTALLY JEALOUS!

Two for one with good titles is rarely a good idea. I can't stand met, but tspp is a great machine. If you like them both, I'd keep them, save up and add jjpotc. If it was me, I'd dump met, keep tspp, and pay the balance for jjpotc.

This is just the pre-release Pinside excitement/rant/rave sequence. When the game comes out, it will reboot to a Pinside excitement/rant/issues/rave sequence. Predictions: the game will shoot up to the top 20 and likely remain there. Sales will be a bit slower and steady than Dialed-in, but they will be decent.

When I played this machine, I absolutely loved it. It's only the theme that holds me back. An original pirate theme would have secured a purchase from me. Just can't have Jonny staring at me in my gameroom. Just can't do it. Plus Stern already did it. I just can't wrap my head around the theme decision. Seems to be JJP biggest blunder to date.

Absolute LIAR

There will be much rejoicing, and endless pinball for all the children.

Stern sent out a batch of IM pros before the LEs

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Crank the back way up. Faster. More challenging. Better for tounament practice. Just... better!

Lucky JJP machines don't get stuck sitting next to a Stern.

I have both. Stern makes inferior machines. It was a satirical statement.

I'm not allowed to have an opinion about my brand new Stern Iron Maiden that I paid $12500CAD for? Side by side with my DI, the Stern machine is A JOKE. But that's just me bitchin' again...

I’ve had the same experience with my DILE. It’s had more issues than the stern. Phone had issues; no phone in the stern. Trap door issue; no real sewer in the stern and I did have a small issue with the stern ramp mech. That was it though. JJP use better wood, better electronics, better toys, better everything. IMDN was a dream theme coupled with Elwin, but it’s definitely not worth the same as my DI LE based on value for the dollar, not by a long shot. I knew this going in, and stern didn’t let me down with their extreme cheapness of product. Like the game, but never again.

As for giving DI another chance, new code is about to drop which adds to the game, but it won’t be vastly different. Scoring will be better balanced and a theatre mb will be added. To me, it’s a Lawlor masterpiece, but I dig his designs.

Yeah, I've noticed that two, but I find that that is where the similarities end. IMDN is so fast in comparison, and it has the Black Knight 2000 looping!

Man, I'm soooooo bummed that this theme killed it for me, and I'm not even that picky with themes. This game looks and plays amazing. Just can't stand a retheme, especially with JD's face in the middle. You guys that dig the theme are lucky!

I hear ya, but I haven't seen Congo and "Jungle and Apes" is a good stand-alone theme. I own the shadow and haven't seen the movie or read the comics. "Dark shodowy figure with a gun" is decent on its own. Everyone knows the overblown Disney series with JD, plus its a remake but a different company... It's like if Stern put out a game based on one the newer Star Wars movies, like the one with the annoying kid, and JJP decides to remake that same theme, when there are countless others out there. It's a punch in the gut to me. Just can't get past it.

All that being said, and as I've said, I'm jealous that I can't as I've played the game and loved it!