Hell ya brother!

Question. Sorry if I missed this answer but did the art work around the spinner stay the same as it was before when they took the 3 spinning disk out?

Check out post 2251 . Pictures.

LTG : )

Word. Big ups to all the JJP crew and especially Jack and Eric for their tireless devotion to the craft.

is anybody doing cartwheels yet?

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Should be soon. Hoping for a double. Jack and Eric.

LTG : )

Ha Jack and Eric should stand back to back while someone ties each arm and leg together. Then they could do some real somersaults.

Let's not kill anybody. We need them. More games coming.

LTG : )

I noticed yesterday that you get a decent look at it on the pic of Eric playing. Looks good imo.

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I’m definitely good for a double....been warming up!

Guess which one is me?

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The one with the furry jammies.

LTG : )

I'm gonna say the top one (panda) as that looks the most fun. The middle one is probably Eric Hogbog as it looks like something he could actually do lol. And the last one is everyone who bailed out of their preorder.

I assumed just the lead up ramps were going to be clear but the whole Maelstrom bowl is clear like creature and white water.I wonder if liars dice video mode will be ready when they ship or if that will come in a later update.

God bless that glass half full attitude. More folks should have it.

It looks different .. but this bad story with the pizza in the middle was my reason to get my deposit back!
So maybe my opinion will change after I saw the final playfield live. The gameplay on a proto was great !
Are the machines becoming cheaper due the 2 missing toys ? ... Just joking ....

Many JJP games have been changed from original concept. Big deals? Yes, but the changes were needed and took place. Time spent worrying about any of them now is crying over spilt milk. No amount of tears will change them back to their previous glory. For instance ...

WOZ serial lighting either broke or left Owners worried it soon would. That was a poor design choice by JJP and was covered under warranty for many, yet others had to shell $800 out of pocket to buy an upgraded boardset.

TH switched from direct print cabinets to high res decals because of vendor issues. But the decals were beautifully done and buyers were offered a choice to switch to alternate Smaug edition with decals.

POTC removed 2 discs from playfield while adding three to the LCD (so technically you gain one while losing the wow factor). The moving trunk lid was cut too (a small deal). Both were poorly designed and had to be removed because they were unreliable.

DI is the single game that didn't receive a major adjustment of some sort. The original poor title and theming choice were never corrected, even after public outcry and suggestions were offered. Ironically, JJP took no action in that instance and it has negatively impacted DI sales.

So yeah, changes happen and we should always remember them, but as POTC stands - it is looking pretty good. The single biggest complaint is a steep price tag and complaints about that fell on deaf ears to. Ha, you want something more? Here's your big price increase ... BAM!
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Is it me or do the side walls of ramp only look clear and the ramp surface and bowl look frosted?

I forgot about the liars dice mode, hope they got it done. In the last stream Eric mentions polish and visual enhancements were added and see if we notice but nothing stood out from previous.

I also hope they added the animation on display for firing cannon at ship like they mentioned they were discussing.

I have one wish for JJP. Be that LEGENDARY pinball company where EVERY game made is SPECTACULAR, has the BEST rules/software/coding possible and incorporates new technology and TOYS.

I’m not ready to give TH a trophy for that yet.
Let’s see what Stern does with the pending GB and AS code updates, will likely reinvigorate these titles.

JJP guys.
I was at California Extreme yesterday in Santa Clara. Great show. However, I was really hoping that I would get to play a completed production version of Pirates with all of the latest updates. I’m surprised that you didn’t even bring one. I think this was a big missed opportunity for you guys to show the completed pin to prospective buyers like me. You brought a prototype to Golden State earlier this year and I liked it but you’ve made some big changes since then. Bummer...

On another note, JJP games were almost completely absent from the show. One DI and one TH (there was another locked up in the tournament room too). Not a single WOZ to be found. Surprising

A little perspective, for a prospective buyer: The first game rolled off the line two days ago, so distributors don't have one yet. The only gameplay changes are an improvement on how the ball is affected by the spinning disc and even better code. Whatever version you played should be enough to make you want it.

Cali is a long way from Jersey. All their games were at Lodi

I hear ya.
Since they brought a prototype to Lodi I would think they would bring a completed one to Santa Clara too

Your opinion, and I disagree.
Before spending $9500 I want to see the completed polished game.

Then wait a little bit and play a production version. You're acting like it's a completely different game. If you're honestly that close to not getting it, just don't. It's not like it's going to be a totally different experience than the prototype.

Watch the many JJP twitch streams if you want to see the newest code. They are better players than most, so you actually get to see it more than if you played it yourself.

Not trying to get at you, but it's unreasonable to expect to play a production game 3,000 miles from the factory, 2 days after the first unit rolled off the line.

That's fair. Some games do look better in person than in pictures or video. Hopefully you can play it too, before you decide.

LTG : )

There wasn't one available. Construction just started this past Thursday. It will take a bit to get completed games where everybody wants them.

Agreed. $9500 is an investment in what you want in a pinball machine. I hope you get to see and play one soon so you can decide.

LTG : )

here's some random thoughts on JJPOTC. I don't buy into the hogwash hype is dead band wagon folks. Ive been around a bit and am a fairly good player; and while I've only played a test version of the game (about 50 games), I think this game is the best pin ive played. There are a few nuisances that detract me like the Chest lock (oh wait thats fixed) and the spinning disk not working (oh wait thats fixed) but the game, layout, software, rules, and amount of depth that went into this game as a whole is over the top best ive seen or played in any pin. Now I will say if you're a mode based type player, this pin may not be for you - the chapters are chapter scoring opportunities, not modes. Notice how they always refer to them as chapters (not modes) in the streams? So Being a player more than a collector, this is how I feel about JJPOTC - and I think gameplay, code, rules trump the rest of the aspects in games. Yes, the price of admission is very high - but if that's the case, do like most of us homeowners do and wait it out a bit and see how the tides fall. Just my 2 cents with my random thought of the day.

Great pin!

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Some ramp pics.

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Is the first pic of maelstrom ramp the new production version?

Prototype pic.

What do people think of the sky blue side rails , are they for the LE or Standard version.

Funny! Lol

I think that is tape . The LE should be black. CE should be green Davis Jones. Standard should be metal.

All speculation from me.

The chest looks broken/crooked

Could be the photo angle I am not a pro photographer.

It does have a slight pitch to to left for locked balls. Works great.

Amazing game.

Now I wish I was joking .I didn't think of the protective tape stupid me, thanks guys.

Getting real close.

Honest mistake.

I have been glued to the Spooky ACNC thread and updates and in their most recent pics of assembly there is no visible tape, it just appears that the work is done without 'protection'. On the blue powder coat rails, it appears. I do hope that there is something on there, like JJP's POTC.

anyone have any idea if JJP will sell side art blades for POTC? Have they done that with their other titles?

Psw757 I would also like to know about hole and edge protectors, a la Cliffy. Does this ship with factory protectors? I am also curious to know if a ring protector will be required for the center spinner.

They have not done this with the other titles, and as a distributor, I have not heard anything yet. I would like to see it as an option from the factory, but there is a point where the logistics of "custom" games becomes overwhelming for the amount of manpower needed to make this happen. It is especially difficult when someone orders a custom game (radicals, playfield protector, invisiglass, etc) and then no longer wants the game.

It is easy to say "just make them pay for it," but the reality is that you can not do that without negative effects within the community at large.

I would love to see a "build to order" system in place for JJP, and it will possibly happen one day. Until then, you can be sure that someone will make some side art for this amazing game.

Yes and No...they had prototype games at many shows so your argument doesn't make a lot of sense (yes I realize they may have been closer to JJP headquarters). JJP/Distributors missed a big opportunity not bringing games to a market that has a lot of disposable income....Im with gamejunky on this one.

That's disappointing to hear. You would think after the series of design disasters with Dialed In holes chipping and then the months waiting for an in-house protector design that ultimately was scrapped because it sucked, they would have gotten Cliff a jjPotC playfield in advance so he could help them provide bulletproofed jjPotC machines from the factory, just like Dialed In is now. Moving to have his protectors installed from the factory on Dialed In was one of the best things they ever did for their customers. I thought they were going to continue doing that moving forward with new pins.

Hopefully they are and they're just behind due to the crazy production challenges this year for that machine.

I saw in a video Jack said they were going to make their own versions of cliffy protectors is that's not happening now ?

Video for Dialed In or jjPotC? Once playfields started chipping at the SIM hole, they tried making their own on Dialed In protector set and they were terrible (especially the phone one) and they eventually just used Cliff's better designs after just wasting a ton of time and effort for nothing. I thought they learned that lesson and weren't going to try re-inventing the wheel again and wasting a ton of time while playfields in the field chipped.

Yeah. I can’t believe a manufacturer is trying to manufacture stuff. They should totally quit after one go at it.