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jjPirates of the Caribbean Troubleshooting/Tips/Issues jjPotC Tech


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#2351 39 days ago
Quoted from bbulkley:

My NIB LE arrived today from Australia, and I need to convert it from 220 to 110. Is there a documented process for that? I’m comfortable with wiring.

Page D-92, D94 of the manual, you can download it from JJPs website.
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EDIT: Apparently the part about setting a switch on the ATX power supply is wrong, since you may or may not have to do that, depending on WHICH ATX power supply JJP put in your machine. Most (all?) Corsair ATX supplies are auto-sensing and have no switch. The JJP manual is being updated with this for the next revision.

#2352 39 days ago

you just need a special tool to remove the pins

#2354 38 days ago
Quoted from vireland:

Okay, 17 iterations later, the Kicktap is done and in the Pinmonk store. As usual, I'm not sure about pricing, so I've just picked one I think I can live with. There's a lot of parts for this one, so it may end up more expensive later. I'll have to see how it goes down the road after I've built a bunch.
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https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1170-pin-monk/03111-power-cmos-kicktap[quoted image]

Ordred mine! Thanks Victor for putting this together. BTW - your magnetized balls are on their way UPS.
Murph

#2355 38 days ago

Thought I would share, playing my LE today and the right flipper on the black pearl got stuck on. Checked linkage, end of stroke, wiring and switches on cabinet. Went into test mode and all checked out fine, but the minute I pulled coin door coil switch, the flipper activated. I have had this type of issue before on my Bally/Williams machines and usually a shorted transistor on driver board. Called and talked to Lloyd and confirmed my thoughts. This was also confirmed by once I pulled the driver board out and tested the transistor I suspected and is shorted. Sad to see this happen on such a new machine, but it's pinball! Ordered a new transistor.

#2356 38 days ago
Quoted from MurphyPeoples:

Ordred mine! Thanks Victor for putting this together. BTW - your magnetized balls are on their way UPS.
Murph

Thanks much! The initial Kicktap orders will start going out tomorrow.

#2357 38 days ago
Quoted from Mikespinball:

Thought I would share, playing my LE today and the right flipper on the black pearl got stuck on. Checked linkage, end of stroke, wiring and switches on cabinet. Went into test mode and all checked out fine, but the minute I pulled coin door coil switch, the flipper activated. I have had this type of issue before on my Bally/Williams machines and usually a shorted transistor on driver board. Called and talked to Lloyd and confirmed my thoughts. This was also confirmed by once I pulled the driver board out and tested the transistor I suspected and is shorted. Sad to see this happen on such a new machine, but it's pinball! Ordered a new transistor.

Yeah, they can go at pretty much any time. Most transistors last forever, but sometimes they flame out quickly. At least you narrowed down the issue quickly.

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#2358 38 days ago

Vic, what’s up with selling JJPOTCLE? I thought that was a great money maker and one of your favorite games?

#2359 38 days ago
Quoted from dts:

Vic, what’s up with selling JJPOTCLE? I thought that was a great money maker and one of your favorite games?

I don't have final say. Location's gone. Nowhere to put it currently. Op says go. It's a great game and was the #1 earner overall (due to the location we had it at) before the location changed owners and the new owners didn't want pins, but I agree with the op that the $1.50/4 ball pricing only works at a location with 3 pins so there were other options for people that were turned off by the price. He doesn't have any locations that can take 3 pins, so it's kind of odd man out. It's a drag, but there are plenty of other pins for me to play in its absence.

#2360 38 days ago

Makes sense, to the Op, I guess... Values will be high until they do another run and will then correct a bit, imo.

#2361 38 days ago

You think another run of them is coming? Sounds like they are moving on from it.

#2362 38 days ago
Quoted from Vans:

You think another run of them is coming? Sounds like they are moving on from it.

I think it is very likely, based on a conversation with Jack earlier this year. But that is just my opinion.

#2363 38 days ago
Quoted from vireland:

Okay, 17 iterations later, the Kicktap is done and in the Pinmonk store. As usual, I'm not sure about pricing, so I've just picked one I think I can live with. There's a lot of parts for this one, so it may end up more expensive later. I'll have to see how it goes down the road after I've built a bunch.
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Will this fit on WOZ as well?

#2364 38 days ago
Quoted from apinballwiz:

Will this fit on WOZ as well?

Contact him and ask. His ad - https://pinside.com/pinball/market/shops/1170-pin-monk/03111-power-cmos-kicktap if there is enough interest he'll make it for WOZ and Hobbit. Sounds like for mounting but will work now in WOZ.

LTG : )

#2365 38 days ago
Quoted from apinballwiz:

Will this fit on WOZ as well?

It functions for WoZ and Hobbit, but the actual mounting paired bracket pieces for the CPU case don't work because it's designed for the unused HDMI cutout in the CPU case of JJP games with the CPU case in the head rather than the cabinet. If you didn't use the male piece and just used double-sided 3M foam tape, it could be secured to a WoZ or Hobbit in the cabinet base. Not quite as elegant, but it would be just as functional.

We have a WoZ here, so I do plan on working on a Kicktap mount for it, but I may finish up the last of the Iron Maiden column/Torch mod and Spike 320W fan projects first so I can get those out.

#2366 38 days ago
Quoted from dts:

Makes sense, to the Op, I guess... Values will be high until they do another run and will then correct a bit, imo.

I also think there will be another run within 18 months (no insider information, just my feeling). JJP left WAY too much money on the table, and if Eric hits it out of the park again with GnR, even more people will want to own his first masterpiece, increasing demand.

But anyone that thinks that by waiting they'll get a jjPotC LE on that re-run for the original $10k pricing is dreaming. If it happens, it will be a Yellow Brick Road WoZ situation where the price is jacked up to former CE levels. Although now that the chest has been shown to be very reliable using a servo instead of slamming open and closed with the forks, I could see JJP putting that back in.

#2367 38 days ago
Quoted from vireland:

I also think there will be another run within 18 months (no insider information, just my feeling). JJP left WAY too much money on the table, and if Eric hits it out of the park again with GnR, even more people will want to own his first masterpiece, increasing demand.
But anyone that thinks that by waiting they'll get a jjPotC LE on that re-run for the original $10k pricing is dreaming. If it happens, it will be a Yellow Brick Road WoZ situation where the price is jacked up to former CE levels. Although now that the chest has been shown to be very reliable using a servo instead of slamming open and closed with the forks, I could see JJP putting that back in.

Hope you are right - at the very least it means we will get another code update finally!

#2368 37 days ago

You can still buy NIB at original pricing from Australia. Mine arrived this week and they have two left. No offense intended to Vic - that machine has nice mods and I’m sure will fetch the asking price.

#2369 37 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Hope you are right - at the very least it means we will get another code update finally!

There's definitely another code update coming, so that's not a concern.

#2370 37 days ago

Folks, so I have a Pirates but the lockdown bar mech is really stiff i.e. when I disengage it to remove the glass it stays that way where as my other machines
the spring returns the mech.

There is still a spring on it so its not that its just so damn tight the first time I had to remove the glass it was a struggle to move it.

How does one go about adjusting the mech?

#2371 37 days ago
Quoted from jrawlinson_2000:

Folks, so I have a Pirates but the lockdown bar mech is really stiff i.e. when I disengage it to remove the glass it stays that way where as my other machines
the spring returns the mech.
There is still a spring on it so its not that its just so damn tight the first time I had to remove the glass it was a struggle to move it.
How does one go about adjusting the mech?

Turn the two brass screws on the steel piece below the lockdown bar counterclockwise. It should only need a little bit, if it's a bunch, something else is the problem.

#2372 36 days ago
Quoted from vireland:

I also think there will be another run within 18 months (no insider information, just my feeling). JJP left WAY too much money on the table, and if Eric hits it out of the park again with GnR, even more people will want to own his first masterpiece, increasing demand.
But anyone that thinks that by waiting they'll get a jjPotC LE on that re-run for the original $10k pricing is dreaming. If it happens, it will be a Yellow Brick Road WoZ situation where the price is jacked up to former CE levels. Although now that the chest has been shown to be very reliable using a servo instead of slamming open and closed with the forks, I could see JJP putting that back in.

Just spoke with Jack. Unfortunately, there are no plans to do another run at this time. They are very busy making Wonkas, and on to the next game. Surprising and hope they change their minds down the line.

#2373 36 days ago

Recently picked up a single owner POTC. I have noticed the right side of the large LCD monitor is sliding down. It appears to be about an 1/8" low. I recall seeing this somewhere, but can't find the thread.

Anyone else have experienced this? I have not pulled the backglass to inspect just yet.

Upon further review, I just took out the back glass and I can physically move the monitor all around. Any tips on what to tighten or how to tighten it down. No way it should be that loose.

Another issues to note, on random startups I lose all lighting. I have to reset the game to get the lights to come back on.

#2374 36 days ago
Quoted from IdahoRyan:

Recently picked up a single owner POTC. I have noticed the right side of the large LCD monitor is sliding down. It appears to be about an 1/8" low. I recall seeing this somewhere, but can't find the thread.
Anyone else have experienced this? I have not pulled the backglass to inspect just yet.
Upon further review, I just took out the back glass and I can physically move the monitor all around. Any tips on what to tighten or how to tighten it down. No way it should be that loose.
Another issues to note, on random startups I lose all lighting. I have to reset the game to get the lights to come back on.

The monitor isn't clipped in to the steel brackets on the left and right side?

If it's clipped in and still sagging, that's the monitor arm, but I don't recall the fix. It's been brought up in this thread before or the club thread.

For the lighting, I'd check the USB connectors on the computer box and circuit board. Loose connector might do that.

#2375 36 days ago

THIS GAME will never be made again.

#2376 36 days ago
Quoted from 3pinballs:

THIS GAME will never be made again.

Never say never. If the profit motive and demand are high enough, it can happen. Stern said AC/DC was done and not being made again only to turn around and vault it a year or two later.

#2378 36 days ago
Quoted from vireland:

Never say never. If the profit motive and demand are high enough, it can happen. Stern said AC/DC was done and not being made again only to turn around and vault it a year or two later.

They only have the license for a total of 3 years, don't forget. Disney may make it cheaper if they dont' produce another POTC movie for a while, but JJP will have to re-up the license before they do another run. It definitely doesn't look good, at least in the short term, and as more time goes on, the less likely it gets. Very happy I made the leap this time.

That said, you're right - if they demand is high enough, *and* if they can make the numbers work, they will certainly make an attempt. I do think ACDC was probably a bit easier to get back on the line; a lesser BOM for sure, and a reasonable cost didn't limit the buyer pool quite as much.

IMO (and what do I know) the already high cost of POTC will make it a tough sell for a larger number of buyers.

#2379 35 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

IMO (and what do I know) the already high cost of POTC will make it a tough sell for a larger number of buyers.

Hard to understand the real demand for this game. There seems to be pent up demand for Pirates but at the same time games are being shipped back from AU to US. The weak AU $ makes the game even more expensive there but you’d still think they could easily sell a handful of remaining NIB. Combined with the original soft demand, this has to cause JJP some pause.

#2380 35 days ago
Quoted from luckymoey:

Hard to understand the real demand for this game. There seems to be pent up demand for Pirates but at the same time games are being shipped back from AU to US. The weak AU $ makes the game even more expensive there but you’d still think they could easily sell a handful of remaining NIB. Combined with the original soft demand, this has to cause JJP some pause.

It's got to be price. the BOM is high, sales price is WAY high, and they will certainly need to increase the MSRP significantly to make a good margin. That takes out a lot of the buyers. Most people can't afford it, and those that can - half of them are going "10K? 13K?! I'm out."

#2381 35 days ago

I was in on a LE from the get go and never looked back. It is the first and only NIB I will ever buy and so glad I did. This pin is a blast and gets better the more you learn about it.
I think when the license runs out they won't make anymore "unfortunately"! And IMO the reason being would be cost of license to renew and the cost of making it.
Also, Is there a pin that disney has even let any one renew the license on?

#2382 35 days ago
Quoted from bbulkley:

You can still buy NIB at original pricing from Australia. Mine arrived this week and they have two left. No offense intended to Vic - that machine has nice mods and I’m sure will fetch the asking price.

Only 1 left - my buddy has one on the way

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#2383 35 days ago
Quoted from luckymoey:

Hard to understand the real demand for this game. There seems to be pent up demand for Pirates but at the same time games are being shipped back from AU to US. The weak AU $ makes the game even more expensive there but you’d still think they could easily sell a handful of remaining NIB. Combined with the original soft demand, this has to cause JJP some pause.

You have to understand that the au market is much smaller than the USA. The second hand market has been saturated with great games for the past 18 months atleast. Lots of good 2nd hand games sitting unsold with others taking months to sell atleast 1-2k under the original asking prices.

Not sure if the change in currency makes it viable for other games to be returned to the us aswell.

#2384 33 days ago

I have an extra Comet Pinball trough lighting kit that I'd like to install on POTC. Anyone know where I could pick up 6.3V under the playfield with alligator clips and save me the trouble of researching the manual?

#2385 33 days ago
Quoted from luckymoey:

I have an extra Comet Pinball trough lighting kit that I'd like to install on POTC. Anyone know where I could pick up 6.3V under the playfield with alligator clips and save me the trouble of researching the manual?

Pirates is a 12v system.

#2386 33 days ago
Quoted from MurphyPeoples:

Pirates is a 12v system.

I knew the spotlights use 12V but didn't realize they didn't use 6V or something close anywhere. Thanks.

#2387 33 days ago

I have my first questions after unboxing my new POTC.

The unpacking instructions say to remove any foam behind the playfield. I didn't have any white foam blocks, just this black block that's screwed in place.

The instructions say when converting from 220 I have to change the pins. I got those out no problem, but there's also a note that the power supply should have a sliding switch on the external case. I assume that's referencing the PC power supply pictured, but I don't see any slider (sorry for the bad picture, but it's just a Corsair PC power supply).

Lastly, I found a few loose bits in the bottom. Two locking nuts, one thumb screw, and one plastic screw cover. Any ideas?

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#2388 33 days ago
Quoted from bbulkley:

just this black block that's screwed in place.

Remove it.

Quoted from bbulkley:

one thumb screw,

Holds coin mech stuff in place on the coin door.

Quoted from bbulkley:

The instructions say when converting from 220 I have to change the pins. I got those out no problem, but there's also a note that the power supply should have a sliding switch on the external case. I assume that's referencing the PC power supply pictured, but I don't see any slider (sorry for the bad picture, but it's just a Corsair PC power supply).

Contact JJP. You might need a different power supply.

LTG : )

#2389 33 days ago
Quoted from bbulkley:

I have my first questions after unboxing my new POTC.
The unpacking instructions say to remove any foam behind the playfield. I didn't have any white foam blocks, just this black block that's screwed in place.

Literally the first link in the first post of this thread covers this.

Quoted from bbulkley:

The instructions say when converting from 220 I have to change the pins. I got those out no problem, but there's also a note that the power supply should have a sliding switch on the external case. I assume that's referencing the PC power supply pictured, but I don't see any slider (sorry for the bad picture, but it's just a Corsair PC power supply).

It seems that Corsair ATX power supplies are auto-switching, but you definitely want to run that by JJP or Corsair before plugging in with confidence.

Quoted from bbulkley:

Lastly, I found a few loose bits in the bottom. Two locking nuts, one thumb screw, and one plastic screw cover. Any ideas?[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Thumbscrew goes to the coin door. There should be two (one top, one bottom) on each coin chute at the very back.

Black piece looks like something that goes on the back of the pearl, maybe behind the backboard?

Nuts could be literally anything. There are dozens of these on the machine. HOWEVER, maybe you'll get lucky and they are for the dummy plate for the bill acceptor to the right of the coin chutes with the missing thumbscrew. There should be a white spacer and locking nut on each of the 4 posts (two top, two bottom) for the bill acceptor dummy plate.

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#2390 33 days ago

Thanks everyone - the interweb says some VS450 power supplies take 110-240 and others take 220-240. I might need to pull this one to see if there are any markings.

#2391 33 days ago
Quoted from bbulkley:

Thanks everyone - the interweb says some VS450 power supplies take 110-240 and others take 220-240. I might need to pull this one to see if there are any markings.

Whatever you find out, post when you have it solved authoritatively (model number of the power supply if you get it would be good, also) and I'll add your post to the index of issues as there are a few that are bringing jjPotC back from overseas and might need the information.

#2392 32 days ago

The official word from JJP is that some power supplies have a sliding switch, but the Corsair does not. In my case I don't need to worry about it, but it's impossible to predict when a machine might use a different power supply.

#2393 32 days ago

It’s also worth noting that the conversion requires more changes than just the Molex pins. JJP recommends buying the correct parts from them rather than modifying the existing power supply. So that’s what I’m doing.

#2394 32 days ago
Quoted from bbulkley:

It’s also worth noting that the conversion requires more changes than just the Molex pins. JJP recommends buying the correct parts from them rather than modifying the existing power supply. So that’s what I’m doing.

What things not covered on the conversion page in the manual are required?

#2395 32 days ago

From JJP: "The Euro power box does not have a US service outlet in it (for powering a soldering iron or light, when you're working on the machine). The varistor and thermistor inside the power box also have to be changed for use in the US, as does the line fuse - different voltage and current safety limits for the two configurations."

I'm glad Butch at JJP was so helpful - I might have damaged my machine otherwise!

#2396 32 days ago
Quoted from bbulkley:

From JJP: "The Euro power box does not have a US service outlet in it (for powering a soldering iron or light, when you're working on the machine). The varistor and thermistor inside the power box also have to be changed for use in the US, as does the line fuse - different voltage and current safety limits for the two configurations."
I'm glad Butch at JJP was so helpful - I might have damaged my machine otherwise!

Butch is the guy that does the incredible job on JJP manuals (by FAR the best in the business, bar none), so I would hope that this information makes its way to an updated conversion page in the JJP manuals.

#2397 32 days ago

Motherboard Kicktaps are going out tomorrow. I had to delay them to get the instructions a little more clear. This is the final version:

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#2398 32 days ago

I already ordered. Thanks for the detailed instructions. We all appreciate it.

#2399 32 days ago

Anybody know the size of the threaded posts that have a threaded part up top? They are all over the playfield. Thanks!

#2400 32 days ago
Quoted from KornFreak28:

Anybody know the size of the threaded posts that have a threaded part up top?

Page C-135 in the manual.

You can download it from jerseyjackpinball.com - Support - Downloads - Pirates.

LTG : )

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