Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory (CE)
Jersey Jack, 2019
Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory (LE)
Jersey Jack, 2019
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Quoted from KingBW:I will start an unsubstantiated rumor. In the LE settings menu there are settings for Under cabinet LEDs. Since thats not on an SE or LE and is disabled, it looks like they are or were planning for these for an add on accessory or for the CE. Maybe not?
I noticed that disabled setting on the SE as well.
Quoted from CLEllison:OP - I assume you belong to the JJP google group.
A quick summary which is very likely why you hoity toity Wonka owners dont have it yet.
Diverter issues
Magnet over heating issues
Ramp issue - ball flying off
And we've all seen the ooey gooey playfield model
Let's be fair here though.
Software fixed the first two issues and there's an airball protector now for the ramp issue. It's not like any of these things are being ignored.
Quoted from Gasoline:Extremely curious about what the custom speech by Julie Dawn Cole will entail (or sound like).
I am sure that's her at the end of the promo vid. It's not going to sound like child Veruca of course. 
I wonder if she will replace the "grampa" callouts? Or just add a few new ones?
Quoted from wfumed2:What do you guys think of the new playfield vs the LE?
I'm happy to have a custom playfield but it's a little bit underwhelming. THe one difference I see is Wonka in a circle instead of with outstretched hand.
As an overall package though the CE is great. Looking forward to upgrading.
Quoted from Hoss_Coog:The "Veruca Salt" call outs won't be as cool if her voice is an adult Veruca Salt, not the same voice she had as a child.
If it's the same voice that was used in the video, it'll be a let down.
So your argument is that JJP should have invented time travel?
Quoted from Yelobird:Do you love it 3000 times more....? Lol. It does look nice but that Really is a sizable price bump.
I’m still stinging from not getting POTC CE so I’m doing it regardless.
If a game is a long term keepr, and Wonka is, I want the best one.
Quoted from RichieWrench:I played the CE game today at Expo...Thank Goodness JJP did not have #12 on display...I think it was #198...so if u have #198...your game is ready to be shipped after the Expo.
So what were the new Julie callouts like? Does she replace dying grandpa entirely, or just add to?
Quoted from bgwilly31:PS i just heard the new voice over and omg cringe. On a game with a already bad sound package that just made it worse.
Can you elaborate? Do the new voiceovers replace the grandpa voice, or add to it?
Personally I think the sound package is pretty good, but that's admittedly subjective.
I heard some of the new callouts someone posted on Facebook - I think they sound great!
She's not trying to sound like Veruca as she does in the promo video, she's just using her pleasant British voice in place of some of the wheezing grandpa callouts.
Video is in the comments for this post in the Jersey Jack Pinball Fans FB group.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2328680497445392/permalink/2367955216851253/
Quoted from benbethel:Also with this Wonka game I'm really hoping the graphics are updated... I don't like the overly simplified graphic backgrounds against the modern-day overlay graphics... seems like they pushed that out really quickly. Would rather full screen the movie clips and just put the modern overlay on top of that, but not have those 'meh' graphics in the background...
My first glance hot take was the same as yours. Over time as I started to learn just how much info is crammed into that screen, I really came to appreciate it.
You should check out the JJP session from last weekend's expo, they went into the many iterations and ideas they had to land where they did.
Quoted from Yelobird:What are you buying a his/hers/and spare now? Lol. Team Zaphx really loves their pinball. Great thing!
Haha no, isn't it bad enough I'm buying the game twice? 
(SE->CE)
I know of two other locals with CE orders.
Quoted from captainBR:I haven’t had time to read the thread but a quick scan reveals boycotts undone and machines less than promised but perhaps on the horizon. Can someone summarize what’s going on and where my pre-paid-since-April Wonka CE might be?
TLDR: Game is awesome and super sticky. CE package pleases most. On the line now and I'm hearing late Nov/early Dec.
Quoted from captainBR:How does anyone know how it will play if they aren’t even MADE yet?
Has Great American Pinball gone out of business with my pre-order in hand? I cannot get a reply.
Because gameplay wise it's the same as the LE. Almost the same as the SE, too, except no Wonkavator.
Quoted from RichieWrench:I hope they sell them all....I really do. I just think it takes the Limited out of the equation. Inwould have done 250...but maybe there is a high demand and people will love the gameplay and how beautiful the game is even without the powder coindoor.
I’ve been playing an SE since July. The gameplay is great and very challenging. It has made me a better pinball player. Super addictive too. We can’t wait for the CE!
Quoted from Cigaretteman:144 is here arrived yesterday beautiful looking game love the sparkling paint effect.
Now if only I had not forgotten to order that playfield protector I would be playing right now instead of typing ☹️[quoted image]
Snap, I guess they headed overseas first!
Quoted from BigSilverPin:Just to add here I've kept the playfield clean and waxed and have changed the balls a few times already.
That's what I did to my Wonka SE as well and I felt like it looked great up until the day it left after 5000 plays.
Pins on location get a different kind of beating, and not enough love.
I clean mine a couple times per week.
Quoted from KirboTurbo:5000 plays.....WOW!
It is a testament to several things:
- How engaging the game is, keeping us coming back over and over
- How difficult the game is, with shorter ball times
- How badly we play
However I will say playing Wonka definitely made both of us better players at all pinball. We are eagerly awaiting our CE.
Seriously though the playfield looked great, see pics:
Quoted from Yelobird:You certainly get your money’s worth out of a game bravo to that. Curious not intended to bash a title but have you ever bought a title that you or your wife didn’t click with and flipped it fast or do you stay the coarse? I’ve had a few like Munsters and BKLE that I almost felt violated on the buying decision lol.
Sure, we got a JP Pro in August and it left last weekend along with Wonka. It didn't resonate with her, and while I liked it, after ~900 plays I got to a state where I just wasn't turning it on enough. All we wanted to play was Wonka, so it funded the upgrade to CE.
It went to a great guy who is enjoying it.
We don't really play Star Wars any more either, but I have a soft spot for that one. It was my first pin, the one that got me interested in pinball, and the wife is a HUGE fan of the IP. That said even she suggests we sell it from time to time. For now it stays, it's just in a different room.
Quoted from tem92:Thanks for the reply.
Did you have any issues of dimpling on your Wonka SE only using the P21S wax?
All pins dimple. Wax won't stop it. I do think it held up really well though, and 5000 plays at that.
Pics:
https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/archive/87018
Quoted from Gasoline:Thanks to Derek (aka: zaphX) for coming over tonight (right after setting up his own WW CE) and helping me setup my first pin purchase!
I was happy to do it and glad we got it done tonight. You’ve waited long enough!
Quoted from Gumby510:This is the first time I have used these. I put it on with the U shape at the bottom. The left side the ball would get stuck. I pushed it in some more and now it sticks a little less. Any trick on installing these properly? I’m sure it’s not rocket science cause the right side is fine.
Yeah you want the U shape at the top (or put another way the open end at the bottom.)
Otherwise yes, you get stuck balls.
I made the same mistake on my SE. I was able to pull them up with dental floss and flip them around.
Quoted from fnosm:I think we should get Cliffy to weigh in on this. Here is a picture from his website showing the u at the bottom.
This is the way I have installed these on many machines. I was able to eliminate ball stoppage by feathering the top side of the leading edges with some sandpaper prior to installation.
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Heh. I actually weighed in to HIM on the issue to pass along my experience
Quoted from bigd1979:I've tried the slot protectors both ways and it seems to depend on the game on which direction works best..
Agreed. My POTC seems completely happy with the open end at the top. It depends on where the ball drops and what the average velocity is when balls run that inlane.
Quoted from bigd1979:Any new streams with your ce?
Quoted from Pball:Mine arrived today and promptly was put back on the truck ;-(
If you look closely, it looks like they even re-palletized it since the stickers over the straps were removed on one side. Didn't all of the CEs or maybe even all Wonkas go back to oversize pallets from JJP?
They plan on shipping a new one Monday to hopefully make it before Christmas![quoted image][quoted image]
I'm really sorry for the disappointment. Maybe it fell over or something? Was the tip and tell intact?
Quoted from Northstar1976:For me it happend when i lifted the game to get under it. The pictures I see the rupture is on the exact same place (to the right of Willy at the chochlate fall). Be careful if/when you lift the board.
I fortunately have not damaged mine yet, but I am taking steps to prevent it:
https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html
Hat tip to jfesler who made me aware of these.
Quoted from Captchaos:I am considering purchasing a WW CE. Do the current owners feel that it is worth it over the LE? I know it’s subjective, but the custom call outs have me considering it. The CE is beautiful, seems as if the playfield isn’t as dark as the LE.
I love the callouts! Those, the red armor/wireforms, undercabinet lighting, backglass etc make it worth it.
Check them out yourself! https://www.twitch.tv/videos/517613788
Quoted from robey99:Does anyone know what the “Red” most secret machine is on the CE. How is it different from the LE or SE? Thanks.
It’s the red gobstopper disc. It’s translucent red plastic and you see it light up at times while rotating. It’s subtle but there.
Quoted from T-Bone21:Has anyone updated the code to 2.03 and after doing so the everlasting gobstopper ball drop quit working? It was working fine before the update and now after the update the hole where the ball trouph rotates is sitting lower and when it tries to rotate it gets stuck and does not recognize when a ball falls in the hole. Anyone else experience this?
Unrelated. Tighten the set screws on the black gear.
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