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.....as i run to find new hiding places
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Quoted from RobT:Ah sweet irony.
I remember when CraZ4Pin was one of the top 5 WOZ supporters on Pinside. The abrupt change of heart appears to have occurred when JJP announced the Ruby Red Limited Edition. He didn't like that too much at all (and I don't blame him).
Reminiscing is fun!
Hmmm where do you keep your lists of top 5 WOZ supporters, smack dab in the middle of your dart board? 
Quoted from pinballinreno:What everyone is missing is the real changes to the above PF pictures, The cool red and white checkered cloth backdrop! A sort of Italian theme? Change the barrels to spaghetti bowls? Exciting out of the box thinking...
This calls for the typical (baked potatoes on a stick asteroids) drawing except put a bowl of pasta where smaug is and meatballs for pop bumpers!
Quoted from Rarehero:A $100 manual!?!??! That's.....yikes. Major cash grab.
except the manual, in color, is built right into the machine as well as on disc so no real reason to buy except for keeps sake. 50.00 buck book for sure and Jack is Autographing and personalizing so there's the other 50 easy 
you just ordered TH and got 660? Goes against a few other statements previously shared on here or one of the threads. I understand that you can order any number up to 1500 but 660? wow. Its also amazing to me how many people are jumping into the Hobbit pool and reserving since the release of some of the "toys" (for you panzer) and full schematics. NIce for JJP and looks good for their future!
Quoted from ek77:PanzerFreak how many times have you got to wizard mode with WOZ if a rule set is so deep you never get there who cares if it is there.
It's like being a billionaire, you may never get to spend your last dollar but by god its nice to know it's there!
Quoted from ek77:As are you.
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I think TWD looks great, I really do, however there is something deep inside me looking at the price of the LE saying wheres the shaker, wheres the invisiglass, where's the color dmd never mind a LCD? Why didn't they finish off the recycled canon with at least a bow shape something! Again think it looks great but when I pull it all away its just not worth 8500 dollars in my opinion. I'm guessing Hobbit may be especially if the LE's do get direct print cabinets and game play is as fun as it looks.
Just leave what is said and what happens out of it. Can you? leave game play aside it's subjective. Can you? I'm just comparing the quality and what you get for your money end of story. If game play and fun, which are all subjective, is not arguable because it's just that subjective.
seriously if they had all those things that woz has like the film clips lcd and the screen print and shaker, glass, quality etc i would pay the 8500. Doesn't mean this game isn't going to be fun or even more fun than woz but damn it take the 1 to 2k off as there is no way it costs Stern anywhere close to what it costs JJp to do these extra things, plus they didn't!! I really want this game, I think I will have to wait though to see the others first
Wow just wow,. Can you read my posts over again please. I'm not a JJP pumper I'm merely stating facts. You think glass, stereo, LCD, shaker, direct print is something that does not scream a higher quality? Forget the feel and parts and thickness crap (minor, i still think you can "feel"it), but negligible. I am not getting into any small problems that ALL machines have when they come out. Some more than others but in the end they are ALL usually fixed or fixable and they ALL usually have them.This is pinball. The new Stern looks amazing and I love that they are listening to people. This is an absolute beautiful machine however I do think for the price it is not there. You want less for more just because you think it plays better great go for it, but how about playing better with all the added qualities for the same price. If they are listening then that's what i'm preaching. Enough with the price increases and not uping the game!
Quoted from ek77:Gary does not sell to the collector so he will never take a pre order or pre pay if you want to bitch about that go to his distributors.
Gary is ultimately selling to the end user and that's how he does well in this field.
ok ok I got sucked in but Mr. positive is back! Promoted items from Pinside Marketplace and Pinside Shops!
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