Look.... 90% of y’all haven’t played either of these.

Black knight, the pro surprised many of us. The stream made it look very cool, whereas the LE looked dull to some. Keep in mind that the loop opto wasn’t working on the LE during the stream.

Wonka is in an even more primitive state in the design phase. They are not going to be cranked out for a while. I didn’t really see anything here that would be considered revolutionary, as kaneda led listeners to believe in the podcast.

Watching the deadflip stream and the Lawlor/Katz interview, you can tell both design teams are very proud of their products. They talk about their designs with no bs, their passions for their designs are genuine. As a consumer, I really appreciate all of that.

For me (and this is where I’ll earn all of your down votes lol), Ritchie has just been a better, more consistent designer than Lawlor over the years. Look at the titles. Both had their worst duds during the lean stern years, so let’s forget about 24 and csi. Where I think pat had the edge in the later system 11/wpc titles, Steve has more recently surpassed pat as a better designer. If you put me in a room with an AC/DC, family guy, Star Trek, and dialed in, the Ritchie titles are totally getting my quarters first.... they’re just.... better.

I’ve gotta play both, but I feel like I’m going to migrate to black knight in the end, based on what I like.

Mike