It’s a good thing that you help people right their apps.

Wonka got a pretty big update recently, I agree that the bonus collection screen (end of the ball) sounds like (coins/slot machine cash out) but the rest doesn't sound like a slot machine to me. The current sound works really well with the game and there is a reason why they are all sold out.

One thing I do know is it doesn't sound like toy story 4 from the videos I've seen.

That Tron from Delt31 could have been mine at one time (small world). I also had another Tron pro less modded but it played better to me. But I sold it before the price spike. I miss Tron, I have games that are probably better overall but something about Tron is just magic.

Pretty sure they said Tim Allens brother did the voice work

No your thinking of Tom Hanks brother doing Woody

Ah, yes. My mistake as I was GWJing the beers last night contemplating Raza.

For anyone looking for a CE at MSRP check the marketplace

"You get NOTHING good day sir"

So funny do your friends just laugh when they get that call out? Nothing comes close to making one talk to a pin as that one!

Whelp folks I'm in with my CE. I know, but I have 2 girls (8,6) that actually liked TS4. I only have Met and SW at home and while they like playing those it does not last long.

I get the angle for TS4 was for non-pinheads. I'm an average player and wonder if I can finally beat a game. This one could be it.

We shall see. I hope the rules give the game justice spite lack of Mechs.

Personally, I can see games in the future being similar to this as time spent Development, production will be MUCH lower than before. Hence, JJP could produce 2 games a year using this model.

However, I do hope they change the price. Ouch, luckily I can fund this, but not moving forward.

Someone described the sound in this game, Wizard of Oz and Wonka as being like walking through a casino. I've been trying to explain this since Wonka came out and that is the most amazing description! So true, the sound in these games is ear-bleeding bad. It's basically an overload of things playing at the same time with no coherency at all.

Oh well this game never was for me anyway especially now because it's Toy Story 4 instead of the OG; which is the only one I've seen or ever will see. And do I really want a game where there's a bash toy that's a cute little girl's face? Maybe her character is evil in the movie or something that I'm not aware of? Even still, its just wrong to do and I can't see how Disney let this one by.

Great Distributor!

I think it looks lovely and i do think you will get the toy story feel, thru call outs and such, but....
Here in sweden you will end up paying 17k usd to get a le toy story in your game room.

For the same money you will get two really good computers with racing wheels (for head to head racing) and that stuff + an air hockey table + a two player multicade with 7000games + a 70 inch flat screen tv + an older game suchs as wcs in good condition.

Thats alot of decent entertainment.

Sounds like you've been through several Trons since buying your first Pro from me!

Never dealt with them but this is now noted.....

No one said that. Tim Allen is in the game. Tom Hank’s brother is, too.

Now I think about it, I think the 3 mins may not be enough time to actually check out on a website with your purchase, but sold out under 15 mins I believe.

And selling 1250/5000 LE’s on day one is a big achievement for JJP. And that with Mirco playfields!!! From this we can learn that the complaints on Pinside are not representative for the majority if their buyers. By that I mean, many people said tg

Ok fair enough they can say anything, but a quick call to distributor here will quickly give you the answer: ‘longgg time sold out’. There were long lists with buyers a long time before the actual release, so all the available games they could sell twice, maybe more. If you want one now you are at the bottom of the list.

So CE’s sold out all 1000 I believe.

The LE is a different story, that one will not sell out really fast I think.

I hope the pinsider begging to have someone find him a CE at MSRP was able to buy that pin. I gotta feeling more CE's will be hitting the market place coming up.

So can we officially say Jack (customers fault) was not accurate in his claim all the machines were sold yesterday?

I don't think it is worth posting anymore: Toy Story Out!

They literally ask Disney what character they could use as a bash toy and they told Pat and team Gabby Gabby.Like Cary says it shoul have been the Benson’s like the trolls on Medieval Madness!

Hey, good to hear from you! Yeah, I had yours for 6 years...played awesome. The new owner lives in SF and loves it.

It's highly unlikely they flew Tim out for a recording session for several reasons including unnecessary cost. Typically what happens is the studio/JJP in this case will set up a session at a local recording studio (to talent) and fly a director to meet the talent at that location where talent is comfortable working. The director come out to be in the studio and interact with the talent while producers will be on the line remotely to provide feedback to talent.

That is traditionally how it's done. That all said, with COVID things have largely changed and any producers, writers, directors, etc. will all just join a zoom conference routed into the booth with only the voice talent and mix engineer on site.

Now how much Tim's rate was for that and how it may have affected total price, that's another question.

Have you not been reading this thread? There was one available at msrp within the last hour, which contradicts your entire post. Just stop, posts like yours drive the FOMO.

yep and it sold within 5 minutes

Anyway I agree we can stop discussing this. Time will tell

Maximize profits wile lowering build cost on one of the most expensive NIB pin released. I was wondering where the other characters were. Now I know they were not included with the cake topper set.

Maybe I am misremembering but isn't that what Joe Katz said happened in the SDTM video?

Is Frank Fuhrter/Todd Nathan in that picture?

Oh, they will.

Tiny screens added for the witch's crystal ball in WoZ and the TV set in Batman '66 are clever, they add atmosphere to the game, but if you're wanting me to play a video game, or show me redundant game play information, I don't need you to toss an iPad onto the playfield, the 27" screen on the backbox will do just fine.

I don’t like the wonka sound at all, I don’t have any other jjp’s to compare with but I turn wonka down. It’s more sound quality for me, hurts my head. I’ve thought about the pinwoofer upgrade but for now I just plug a Bose revolve into the front jack when I want to hear it and it sounds 100x better.

Classic line for sure : )

It’s amazing what people do for cocaine.

I hate the sound in casinos but I love the music and sounds in JJP Wonka. They represent the movie and theme perfectly.

I initially passed on BOTH Wonka and POTC due to all the pinside whining and negativity. Fortunately, I bought them months later after getting a chance to play them. They are bolted down.

This post-launch bitching and whining is entirely predictable at this point.
Fooled me twice but based on the JJP quality I see in gameplay videos, I'm all-in on Toy Story.

Oh hell yeah

Never rely on the "I can shout louder than you" voices on this site as guidance... that's rule #1.

FYI - I got an email from Jason at Classic Gamerooms (GREAT distributor, sold me my Wonka) and they are sold out of CEs (LEs available). I agree with everyone that is questioning the value at the $15K price, but apparently the market is speaking a different story than I would have expected. For folks buying the game: more power to you ... if you and your loved ones will enjoy it and can afford it, good for you!

Playing it this Sunday.

I talked to two people who played the game already. One said it was a stinker. One says it was amazing. That's why you have to play the game and make up your own mind! Think for yourself!

Sounds like GnR!

"Opinions are like assholes; everybody has one and they usually stink"

Kaneda brought up a good point today "Nothing that divisive is good" and that's what is sadly happening here with Toy Story 4. This is the opposite to the reaction that Godzilla and Guns N Roses received for example.

Two things are causing this divisiveness, the choice to call the game Toy Story 4 along with restricting assets to just the 4th film and a lack of mechanical features as well as molds on a $12k - $15k pinball machine.

Same comments were made for GNR. "It's missing 'Crazy' song. It's new concert concert footage instead of late 80's. It's a stripped standard width game but still costs same as POTC CE."

It's the same whining... and that was BEFORE the hobby went stupid.

Oh the irony.

Captain Oblivious

Way I look at it is they are selling an SE at an increased LE price, charge another 3k for a topper and some bling. Add the fact that it's based off of the least popular movie of an iconic brand, dumb down the code for less experienced players and not putting any innovation in the game. We'll see if the flippers and distributors who marked the price up will make out this time or will the reality set in once the FOMO wears off that this is not the JJP that stunned the pinball community with WOZ.

Sorry. He's a f**king idiot.

What, no game has launched with divisiveness and turned out to be a gem?

Please.

A great pinball experience doesn't need all of the crap he bitches about. If you want toys - go buy Toy Story toys and set up a play land in your living room. If you want to experience the story, chapter by chapter - go watch the movie!

Come on people... did you even listen to Joe Katz in the video made available on launch day? Here's a hint.. he mentioned the recording session...

No CEs have sold yet. Only the deposits. Payment won't be due until September at the absolute earliest. Plenty of time for flippers to flip without having to pay in full, to back out, or to transfer their deposits to a different game. We have no idea how many of those at dealers have even received deposits yet, and how many of those people intend on playing the game rather than put it in a storage locker and sell it later. To suggest otherwise is incorrect or dishonest.

Yup.

As long as TS4 isn't multi-ball madness, I'm sure it's decent (but not $12,000 decent).