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JJP Quality


By TonLoc777

40 days ago



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#1 40 days ago

recently inquired with my distributor about a pirates of the caribbean and a willy wonka standard. they basically told me not to purchase the pins due to poor board configurations?? i know machines will have their issues, but is this something that is common with the newer JJP's? i'll post the conversation below. really starting to enjoy pirates and it sounds like with all the issues i should keep my fingers crossed for a black pearl edition further down the road, or just wait for toy story. really want to own a JJP, but considering the price and these issues with quality control i'm slightly worried. any info from distributors or home owners of JJP games would be greatly appreciated. I am located in Saint Louis.

"The standard models are still being made, however, we have not stocked them because Jersey Jack is having a lot of problems with this machine. Eric would be happy to discuss what issues they are having but until they can come up with a solution, this is not a good pinball. The Willy Wonka is the same issue, since it is Jersey Jack, and they are using the same board configurations so we are holding off on them as well. If you’re dead set on one of these, we can find out how long it will take to get one. We would love for you to use us as a source to purchase, but we will always protect you with good information so you can make a good purchase."

#2 40 days ago

Do they mean issues with the playfields? Or the circuit boards?

#3 40 days ago

Who is the distributor ?

#4 40 days ago

Haven't heard of JJP having circuit board issues since the early WOZ days. Something here doesn't sound right unless theres an issue with boards for early production Wonka boards. Since the early WOZ days there have been no widespread board issues.

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#5 40 days ago
Quoted from TonLoc777:

recently inquired with my distributor about a pirates of the caribbean and a willy wonka standard. they basically told me not to purchase the pins due to poor board configurations?? i know machines will have their issues, but is this something that is common with the newer JJP's? i'll post the conversation below. really starting to enjoy pirates and it sounds like with all the issues i should keep my fingers crossed for a black pearl edition further down the road, or just wait for toy story. really want to own a JJP, but considering the price and these issues with quality control i'm slightly worried. any info from distributors or home owners of JJP games would be greatly appreciated. I am located in Saint Louis.
"The standard models are still being made, however, we have not stocked them because Jersey Jack is having a lot of problems with this machine. Eric would be happy to discuss what issues they are having but until they can come up with a solution, this is not a good pinball. The Willy Wonka is the same issue, since it is Jersey Jack, and they are using the same board configurations so we are holding off on them as well. If you’re dead set on one of these, we can find out how long it will take to get one. We would love for you to use us as a source to purchase, but we will always protect you with good information so you can make a good purchase."

Baloney. They are bullshitting because they don’t have inventory. ALL games require some setup and fixing of little things like switches or sometimes alignment of scoops when you unbox them. But JJP hasn’t had problems with boards since the light board redesign in 2013, that is nonsense.

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#6 40 days ago

load of crap. Either someone is mad at JJP or they have no inventory to sell and want you to buy a Stern or something.

#7 40 days ago

distributor name is 3......2......1.....

#8 40 days ago

I’m also not aware of any board issues. I would get with Eric or Lloyd.

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#9 40 days ago

Sounds like somebody isnt going to be my distributor much longer.

There are no circuit board issues since I redesigned the platform for Hobbit.

#10 40 days ago

I seriously wonder if TonLoc777 will be back in this thread.

#11 40 days ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

I seriously wonder if TonLoc777 will be back in this thread.

I dunno, but it won’t be hard to find out who services the St Louis area.

#12 40 days ago
Quoted from TonLoc777:

this is not a good pinball

Fake news.

Edit: Actually it's right. POTC is not a good pinball. It's an exceptional_ pinball.

I went out on location with a buddy to play pins yesterday, and all I wanted to do was play their POTC SE.

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#13 40 days ago
Quoted from TonLoc777:

recently inquired with my distributor about a pirates of the caribbean and a willy wonka standard. they basically told me not to purchase the pins due to poor board configurations?? i know machines will have their issues, but is this something that is common with the newer JJP's? i'll post the conversation below. really starting to enjoy pirates and it sounds like with all the issues i should keep my fingers crossed for a black pearl edition further down the road, or just wait for toy story. really want to own a JJP, but considering the price and these issues with quality control i'm slightly worried. any info from distributors or home owners of JJP games would be greatly appreciated. I am located in Saint Louis.
"The standard models are still being made, however, we have not stocked them because Jersey Jack is having a lot of problems with this machine. Eric would be happy to discuss what issues they are having but until they can come up with a solution, this is not a good pinball. The Willy Wonka is the same issue, since it is Jersey Jack, and they are using the same board configurations so we are holding off on them as well. If you’re dead set on one of these, we can find out how long it will take to get one. We would love for you to use us as a source to purchase, but we will always protect you with good information so you can make a good purchase."

If a distributor is willing to lose a sale saying the game is no good I would trust that when he says the game is good that it is more than safe to buy wait for your distributor to give you the thumbs up

#14 40 days ago
Quoted from JY64:

If a distributor is willing to lose a sale saying the game is no good I would trust that when he says the game is good that it is more than safe to buy wait for your distributor to give you the thumbs up

Expected nothing else from you lol. My jjp pins have all been great and some of the best overall quality I've encountered since being in the hobby.

#15 40 days ago

Bought a woz nib, only had minor "normal" issues so far. No game breaker, no big deal so far.

#16 40 days ago
Quoted from JY64:

If a distributor is willing to lose a sale saying the game is no good I would trust that when he says the game is good that it is more than safe to buy wait for your distributor to give you the thumbs up

Eric has commented in this thread, what the distributor said is fake news.

#17 40 days ago
Quoted from zaphX:

Actually it's right. POTC is not a good pinball. It's an exceptional_ pinball.

I have to agree. Eric and JJP knocked this one out of the park!

#18 40 days ago

If by board they mean playfeild then yes some pirates have issues, if they mean circuit boards I have never heard a issue since early woz game.

#19 40 days ago
Quoted from JY64:

If a distributor is willing to lose a sale saying the game is no good I would trust that when he says the game is good that it is more than safe to buy wait for your distributor to give you the thumbs up

Who says the distributor was willing to lose a sale?

Maybe the distributor was out of the Antarctic Blue Super Sports Wagon and only had Metallic Pea Family Trucksters in stock...

#20 40 days ago

Some old school distributors called playfields, playboards, so I guess they mean the chipping/clear issues.

But then you wouldn't stock Stern or Spooky as they have had similar issues as well!

#21 40 days ago
Quoted from Mitch:

If by board they mean playfeild then yes some pirates have issues, if they mean circuit boards I have never heard a issue since early woz game.

yep, this very well could be some confusion. The distro might have said playfield board and the OP thought he meant circuit boards.

#22 40 days ago

This has to be about the shitty playfields, not the boardset....

#23 40 days ago

Looking at TonLoc777 posting history just asking questions about his games I don't think he knew the pot of shit he was stirring up

#24 40 days ago

What the hell does "poor board configuration" even mean?

#25 40 days ago
Quoted from Cobray:

What the hell does "poor board configuration" even mean?

What does 90% of what that distributor wrote mean?

#26 40 days ago

Name the Distributor or I call BS...

#27 40 days ago
Quoted from dug:

Name the Distributor or I call BS...

DAMN!

Gauntlet thrown!!

#28 40 days ago

Given its complexity, I've had almost no issues with my POTC (late run). I had a loose screw on the chest fork and had to make an adjustment to the chest locking mechanism. Both took me about 30 minutes in total to correct. That's really par for NIB games that I purchased. I also had some minor shipping related damage on my backglass, which support sent me a replacement right away. Find another distro and purchase your JJP games with confidence.

#29 40 days ago

Post the actual email you received from this distributor.

#30 40 days ago

POTC had no issues that I could see or detect when I played one at the Pinball Gallery in Malvern, PA a few weeks ago. The game really kicked major ass. They are hard to find though it seems.

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#31 40 days ago
Quoted from TonLoc777:

recently inquired with my distributor about a pirates of the caribbean and a willy wonka standard. they basically told me not to purchase the pins due to poor board configurations?? i know machines will have their issues, but is this something that is common with the newer JJP's? i'll post the conversation below. really starting to enjoy pirates and it sounds like with all the issues i should keep my fingers crossed for a black pearl edition further down the road, or just wait for toy story. really want to own a JJP, but considering the price and these issues with quality control i'm slightly worried. any info from distributors or home owners of JJP games would be greatly appreciated. I am located in Saint Louis.
"The standard models are still being made, however, we have not stocked them because Jersey Jack is having a lot of problems with this machine. Eric would be happy to discuss what issues they are having but until they can come up with a solution, this is not a good pinball. The Willy Wonka is the same issue, since it is Jersey Jack, and they are using the same board configurations so we are holding off on them as well. If you’re dead set on one of these, we can find out how long it will take to get one. We would love for you to use us as a source to purchase, but we will always protect you with good information so you can make a good purchase."

Sounds like an uninformed distributor. We at Flip N Out Pinball are an authorized JJP Dealer and close to StL, with many happy StL customers. We’d be happy to help you and if you’d like, we can setup a time and day that works for you to look at these JJP machines in detail and answer any questions or concerns you may have. Shoot us a message or call, we’d love to help.

Zach Meny
Flip N Out Pinball
zach@flipnoutpinball.com
847.778.4876

#33 40 days ago
Quoted from NorCalRealtor:

Is this guy just trolling?

If you look at his post I think it was an honest question about a game he hoped to add to his collection

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#34 40 days ago
Quoted from Crash:

I would get with Eric or Lloyd.

Quoted from Hogbog:

Sounds like somebody isnt going to be my distributor much longer.

There are no circuit board issues since I redesigned the platform for Hobbit.

My version is the distributor is full of crap.

Some Pirates have had issues. You see them here on Pinside. You don't see all the games that went out and have had no issues. And JJP is there to help. You have a question, or a problem. Open a ticket. Call Tech Support - Frank, Steve, or Me. Call Jack. Call Eric. Be informed, don't believe idle gossip.

LTG : )

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#35 40 days ago

I might add. Talk to other distributors. Zach at Flip N' Out, Chris at Kingpin Games, Mike Daddona at Automated. ( others too, don't mean to miss any of the good ones ). A good distributor helps you before, during, and after the sale.

If you are in the area, stop in at my place. I have the JJP line up here. I can show you how great they are and answer any questions you have.

LTG : )

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#36 40 days ago
Quoted from LesManley:

Who says the distributor was willing to lose a sale?

Maybe the distributor was out of the Antarctic Blue Super Sports Wagon and only had Metallic Pea Family Trucksters in stock...

Rofl.
You think you hate it now, but wait till you drive it.

Ont. Isnt boards more of a stern thingie and jjp more fix some mechaning tune-up stuff yourself thingie?

#37 40 days ago

When I picked up my CE and loaded it into my car it came home with issues. So in my opinion the only issue they have is that someone needs to turn on the machine and read the error report and correct before releasing the machine to go out the door. Board configuration.. not sure what that even means.

I've fixed my issues and the machine has been great... other than that damn auto launcher which I've just been procrastinating about for much to long.

BTW, standard POTC are still being made? If not, that's my first clue that something is off about this entire thread.

#38 40 days ago

Maybe he means that Pirates is missing some disks, some inserts and a opening chest and Willy Wonka some models might miss some stuff in the upper left corner.

Just kidding

#39 40 days ago
Quoted from JY64:

If you look at his post I think it was an honest question about a game he hoped to add to his collection

If someone goes to a house that has a cracked window and sets the house on fire to get people’s attention so they can step back and watch the fire response then that is not honesty or innocence. Without further info from the OP then that is what it appears to be and is bad form to not be active in their own thread.

#40 40 days ago
Quoted from TonLoc777:

we have not stocked them

Truth be told, They have not stocked them because they are not available to stock yet as far as I know, not due to poor quality.

On another note, I received one of the first JJP PoTCs and had issues, rest assured, JJP customer support is second to none. JJP and Flip-N-out pinball has went above and beyond what would be expected for customer support. I wouldn’t hesitate to take the first pin off the line. Your issues (if any) will be resolved.

#41 40 days ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

If someone goes to a house that has a cracked window and sets the house on fire to get people’s attention so they can step back and watch the fire response then that is not honesty or innocence. Without further info from the OP then that is what it appears to be and is bad form to not be active in their own thread.
I will consider removing my downvote of OP if they ever come back.

Before this post all his post were on threads he started with questions about games he owned I think it was an honest question

#42 39 days ago
Quoted from JY64:

Before this post all his post were on threads he started with questions about games he owned I think it was an honest question

I hope he comes back to this thread to show that.

#43 39 days ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

I hope he comes back to this thread to show that.

Why the hell would he do that all I said was wait for the distro's thumbs up and got eleven thumbs down others comments " the distributor is full of crap." "load of crap." "Fake news." "What does 90% of what that distributor wrote mean?" "Is this guy just trolling?" Why the hell would one who just asked a question want to come back into this Pinside shitshow

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#44 39 days ago

OP makes the opening post 9 hours ago and is now a ghost, = troll !

#45 39 days ago
Quoted from Atari_Daze:

OP makes the opening post 9 hours ago and is now a ghost, = troll !

Maybe, but also maybe someone who posted in the morning and went to work. Not everyone lives on pinside like we do

#46 39 days ago
Quoted from zaphX:

Not everyone lives on pinside like we do

TRUE

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#48 39 days ago
Quoted from TonLoc777:

not a good pinball

You’re gettin a little wild with this thing...

#49 39 days ago
Quoted from RandomGuyOffCL:

You’re gettin a little wild with this thing...

Read again he did not say that pay attention to the " symbols " it was a quote

#50 39 days ago
Quoted from JY64:

Read again he did not say that pay attention to the " symbols " it was a quote

Some kids never find the Easter eggs

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