You know, this has become absurd, I just can't understand why people actually believe these are going for 18k for the LEs and 30k for the CEs- just because ads are placed and marked "sale pending" does not mean the game sold. Even if one single idiot truly paid that much, that doesn't set market price. Everybody else jumped on the wagon and listed theirs for 20k "firm". Still sitting there. Anyhow, its a great game and I placed my vote, hope it gets put back on the line