Any comments/opinions on the CE trim shown at TPF? I think I read that trim is not “final” but I’m not a fan of this at all. I’m a DICE owner but Will not keep my potcce deposit if it looks anything like this. Can we remove barnacles and do nice flakes powder coat on trim and coin door instead? What do you guys think?

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A very subtle barnacle around the Lock bar button (maybe done in metal??) would be enough IMO

They wouldn’t sell CEs if they did this. I sure as hell wouldn’t buy one. Does make you wonder how they would do if they just did a single option with all the bells and whistles for 9000 or so.

It was not easy to hit “send” this morning because I love the people at JJP and what they are doing but I cancelled POTCE #69. Got DICE and love it but already didn’t like the theme (never seen one second of any Potc movie) and the latest news just made it feel like the right thing to do... especially with Maiden LE. It’s strange but I was most worried/nervous about disappointing Jack/Jen and hurting their bottom line.

My bet is also that they turn the tide of public opinion back to being positive with something in the near future. They are too good and want “it” bad enough IMO. I bet it still ends up being a very popular game.

Like I mentioned, I do not like the POTC theme one bit and the CE was the only one that interested me. At $12,500 and removing the two features it no longer made sense for me. For me it wasn't choosing one or the other. I happily had both on order before the latest news. Saying that, a < $9k Iron Maiden LE just "feels better" to me with the theme and Elwin's Archer layout vs. the $12.5K POTCCE as things are being stripped out. I feel for JJP because I like how they soft release these games while still in Beta in both design and code, but it can really bite them in the a$$ if they find that popular features aren't realistic for production games.

Had an initial deposit on POTCCE then bailed. After getting several games on the LE, I’m back in. Getting #69 to match my DICE. What a game.

Wonder if these are removable and could get repainted by modfather

I want to second RichieWrench on this. I've seen the final version as well. It made my decision to move forward an easy one. Another thing we all have to remember is that we are seeing these things on a flat surface with light hitting them very differently then it will after they are installed. Anything artistic is subject to different opinions/criticism but have faith that these guys have put in the effort to explore all options...including one that had the barnacles match the color of the trim. They are giving this much more thought than they are getting credit...I was guilty of this as well.

And, lastly, if (in my opinion) the barnacle finish out isn't ideal for my tastes it is not difficult to send the rails and lock down bar off for changes by one of several artists that are masters of this kind of stuff. Can't wait for my machine and thanks to JJP and their partners for the best customer support I've ever received today.

Doubt they would sell items unique to the CE separately. Kinda goes against the purpose of the uniqueness of the CE. I would assume this would not be received well by CE buyers

Goes to show that, with great service, mistakes are easily forgiven and forgotten.

Go check the DICE thread.

Hahahha

I know this has been discussed a lot on Dialed In! But havent seen much discussion among CE buyers on POTC.

Couple questions:

Do you think JJP will release a newly themed/skinned version of POTC (like a Black Pearl Edition)?

If so, would it upset you if it was priced at LE levels but was limited to say 500 games? What if it was priced as a CE and included same topper with a run of 200?

I’m a capitalist to an extreme so I’m not pissed or worried about this possibility but it does intrigue me as an interesting business decision for JJP and curious to see what folks think.

Would you have been this sure on Dialed In!?

JJP didn’t have 3 levels of games with WOZ or Hobbitt when they were released did they? My bet is now that they have gone to this Se, LE, CE model they won’t be rethemeing/reskinning games. We won’t see it with DI (not that there any good opportunities for this with the custom theme) and I bet we don’t see it with POTC. Time will tell I guess.

Bummer man. Sorry to hear this. Easy to fix of course but very frustrating.

Ice, what are you asking me here? I'm saying the DI theme doesn't lend itself to a very marketable re-theme. Are they going to do a "Chaos in Quantum City" release? "Bob's Crazy Phone" edition? DI is top 3 game for me but don't see re-theme opportunities.

If it happens hopefully it's just a basic reskin of the LE. Different trim, different art on the plastic topper, etc. Even some decal tweaks maybe.

I don't think anybody is disagreeing with the fact that this approach is absolutely a great business decision and opportunity for JJP. I think we also all love the company and want them to be successful. This is what makes this so interesting to me.

They are marketing and justifying some of the "value" of these games due to "limited numbers and/or collectibility." Many (if not most) buyers are making their purchasing decisions on these same factors. As we all know, flooding the market with different versions of the game dilutes the limited numbers/uniqueness of the original models. We should all realize that these things are absolutely depreciating assets (especially levels like the CE) but, I assume, we all want to limit that depreciation as much as possible. Without a doubt, releasing additional versions of a game, that are perceived as desirable, is going to accelerate this depreciation and decline in demand.

You hit the nail on the head here. I think both JJP and us buyers likely want the same thing but they may be in a position where they have to take the $$ now...even at the risk of sales on their limited edition releases moving forward.

Oh, and congrats on your CE shipping! Give us some updates and pics pretty please.

Well explained and I agree with you 100%.

Whoa! Those are all yours? All POTC?

I put them on my DICE. The large holes for the pivot bolts on the blades from pinball decals are just slightly off the bolt holes on the JJP cabs. Just need to use a grinder/dremel to make the hole bigger in the mirror blade. I had a bit of a rough time doing it and had the bit “run” on me a couple times and scratch the blade up pretty good. Got them on eventually and they really make the light shows pop.

Yeah, not true. Still waiting on notice for mine.

Mine is #69 (not joking...same as DICE) and it's leaving JJP tomorrow.

#69 in the house.

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Congrats Jeff. Send some pics when you get it