I just checked pin maps and realized that Sunshine laundromat in Queens has a machine. Even though I did get to play a prototype, I'm excited to play this one. Maybe we could have a pinside get together there for those in the nyc Area?

I got to play the production model last night at sunshine here in NYC. Like many I was put off by the changes from the prototype (which I got to play a few times), but after spending some time with the machine, I'm extremely impressed and really want one.

Off topic but what is the latest thinking on what JJP is releasing next? Toy Story or wonka? I only have space for one machine and trying to decide if I want to sell my TAF now and get JJPotc or wait till the next JJP.

Yeah, hopefully they figured out why that upper playfield won't stay still.

I want that Deadwood pinball machine you mentioned! Call outs would be mostly the F bomb.

I played the release machine again at sunshine laundromat, and found the ball got stuck several times underneath the upper playfield. I'm not sure if they updated to latest code as Peter the owner wasn't there to discuss it. I also noticed the game as they have it set has no ball save (which it a bit annoying as I got several SDTM direct from launch.

Also I'm never able to get the ball into the upper play field hole to shoot the cannon (even with less rocking character)

Looking at the sharp angle of the hole maybe the only shot is from the very base of the left flipper?

Finally figured out how to nudge the ball from right hand drain into shooting lane. This is a really fun game with many ways to play.

Since Sunshine here in NYC has both POTC and DI, I recently got to play them back to back. THey are both worth owning. DI feels like a sports car in the sense of speed handling while POTC is like a luxury vehicle with all the options. I don't miss the features that were taken off from prototype (which I was able to play a few games on)

As for NIB games loosing value, to me they hold value incredibly well compared to my other hobby, high end audio. I was shocked at this when first getting into pinball about 2 years ago.

I want to get a JJP game but will have to sell my TAF to do so, and I'm debating a POTC or wait for perhaps WW? The space MY audio gear takes up and living in NY means I can only have one game. I now see why most people here have a game room full. On location it's also hard to get a sense of the game since it's so loud and with the venues music playing.

Great point about the scratch off motion for the lottery. I don't know why POTC doesn't use that feature to grab gold.

The one I play locally also gets stuck in the same place.

Having played the prototype briefly I feel the single disc effects the ball much more.

Since I haven't followed this thread recently, I wondered if there was any resolution to the ball getting stuck under the Tortuga? Both location machines I play have the same issue, one that really interrupts game play.

I'm visiting Florida and have gone to to the silverball museum several times and requested (in the suggestion box) they get Pirates. Hopefully they will.