Count me into the group...
Just ordered the LE
Quoted from PinMonk:
It was a pain, but given what I've seen happen on Dialed In first hand, I definitely recommend the extra protection of metal. The clear on these mirco playfields can be brittle and irreversible damage (chip off PF art or cracks in the clear) can happen unexpectedly and without warning. I would not risk it.
It was really just more annoying to install than actually hard. I'd say about 45 minutes total. Take down the stand-up targets, get the ship out of the way, remove 4 nuts, lift the plastic a bit, take off 2 posts and one screw, wipe down the area with the activator, install the cliffy pieces, then reverse the process and put everything back on. Didn't like doing it, but would not recommend skipping it.
It would be a DREAM if JJP would continue working with Cliff like they eventually did for Dialed In and have a complete package of this level of protection was installed from the factory. If they involved him in the design process of the playfields, Cliff could also help them with making holes less damage-prone (angled beveling is not the answer). He has more experience with hole and playfield surface protection than anyone out there, I have no idea why Jack isn't tapping into that.
What do you mean by "using an activator"?
I have my LE on order...
I already have the cliffys ordered as well as new star posts, (to replace the standard posts on the slings).
Are there any other recommendations that I should consider?
I'm not sure if cliffys are needed, but after reading some of the posts here, I think I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Quoted from PinMonk:
The only factory game with cliffies standard is Dialed In, the later run ones. Nothing else has actual cliffies on it, and JJP games need it most because they're using chip and crack-prone mirco playfields.
I know cliff is backed up as usual, so be like me and order before your machine shows up so it won't be unprotected for long. This one was only unprotected for less than a week before I got them and put them on.
That's exactly why I placed an order w/ Cliffy last week. My LE is on the line...hoping I'll see it within a month or so.
Quoted from darkryder:
I swapped out the skinny sling posts for standard clear starposts and covered up the chipping playfield damage caused by the loose lower left post. I used blue loctite when reinstalling the larger posts and then played about 10 games straight. My LE is finally dialed in perfectly after fixing one issue after another for months. This is one fun and very challenging game when everything is working properly. I could only muster 1.4M tonight, not even close to my GC 2.4M score. The game plays perfectly with the regular star posts, no concerns with swapping them out if you so desire. Time to order some more Mod Couple mods
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I notice that you went w/ the double ring style star post. Any reason for that?
I was told today, that my LE I ordered last week isn't on the line yet...they are waiting on parts.
Quoted from arzoo:
I finally got around to fixing the issue with the ball bouncing out rather than into the map hole. I replaced the deflector with the extended version, adjusted the deflector position, bent the cliffy slightly to keep it flush, and applied new double-stick adhesive. Not sure which of those resolved the problem but the ball drops perfectly now. Side note; when I originally installed the cliffy it was lifting slightly on the right side because as it turns out, the original factory playfield protector around the hole was not installed well and peeled up (I've since removed it).
I also added clear washers to the base of the sling posts (second pic) - not sure if this is necessary but it was an easy precaution against the narrow posts damaging the playfield over time. Also added larger clear washer below the leading corner of the plastic to protect against impacts.
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Where did you get the new ball deflector? Do you have the part number?
Quoted from wesman:
I think you can also get these at hardware stores too. They look like nylon washers. Good tips!
Man, moving pinball tables is always frightening stuff. They can be so unwieldy on a dolly, and wheel size seems to be integral for higher level steps too.
I think this is not my Pirate Ghost typing this from either the grave....or the hospital. Yet!
And those JJP wide-body games are HEAVY too.
Quoted from Nepi23:
I think I will order a playfield protector and put it in, even though the job seems a bit nightmarish. Anyone, who has put one it, what kind of experiences did you have? I have put playfield protector into MM, Houdini and Alien, so I am not a total novice in that regard. How difficult it was to put the JJP POTC protector in?
PU-parts is offering some cannot shield - is it worth to get? https://pu-parts.com/pirates-of-the-caribbean-cannon-shield
Thanks for any info!
I was wanting to order one of those, but they don't ship to the USA
Quoted from mrs_mezelmods:
I will likely be picking up this part to offer on the site- we are now the official distributor of the Pinball Universe plastics in the US. Are others interested in it?
We installed the Pinball Universe playfield protector on our game this week- it is playing fantastic and looks fantastic. Only one small adjustment to the Black Pearl load magnet (in the orbit) to bring it flush with the protector. It took about 1.5 hours to install with our two techs. Worth the investment to keep the game in tip-top shape.
I'll be ordering one...Any ETA on when you'll have them in stock?
Quoted from PanzerFreak:
Just a small heads up for owners. The inside corners of the lockdown bar does not have mylar applied which if you are not careful can lead to scratching of the powder coat on the side rails. JJP was applying mylar to the corners of lockdown bars on some or all of their past games, not sure why they stopped with Pirates. I cut a few pieces of mylar and applied it to my lockdown bar today.
Thanks again for the heads-up
Quoted from rs812:
Wanna talk about QC, opened my NIB yesterday and here are the issues I had right out of the box
1. No tilt bob
2. No CD manual
3. Flipper coils on upper playfield were installed reversed, that is to say the left flipper button fired the right upper playfield flipper and vice versa
4. Left flipper roll pin was barely in and left flipper quit working after about 5 games.
These are not shipping issues. These are sloppy assembly issues. Build date March 1, 2019.
There is no way anyone is testing these things before they leave the factory. If this was tested, there is no way it could have left the factory with such an obvious mistake as number 3 above. One hit of the flippers would have made it apparent.
Wow....that's unbelievable that JJP is pushing out machines w/o "burning them in" first.
I have an POTC LE on order.
I guess they are now going the "Stern route" and just slapping these machines together as quickly as possible w/o giving "quality" a second thought.....sad
Quoted from AUKraut:
I would definitely replace all the flipper rubbers and Black Pearl Rubbers with Titans. Best rings on the market and will help keep the dirt down on the pin.
Does anyone know what size rings the upper playfield takes? I'd like to get some titans on order. I don't care much for black rubbers.
Quoted from Butch2099:
Pulled off the slingshot posts and even though it had the plastic washer at the bottom it still looks like it sunk right into the clear. Putting star post on now.
Also had to bend back my 2x Target it was all the way jammed against the metal bracket for the Maelstrom ramp and had to tighten up the bracket there.
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What is your build date?
I have a POTC LE on order....JJP is supposedly waiting on parts, so, there's a delay. Maybe the delay will allow my playfield clear-coat to cure a bit. Hoping to not have this issue, but I already have clear star posts in hand, just in case.
Those look sweet. Were they easy to install? Did you use the wet method, or dry?
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:
No, the precut hole isn't large enough - nor is its location on the pinblade absolutely perfect.
I suppose you could leave the hinge nut in place and cut around it once you have the pinblade on, but it might be a somewhat tricky to get a perfect cut. Since the hinge nut has a flange, I felt it would look better to remove it, install the pinblade, trim the precut hole on it as needed to perfectly align with the cabinet hole, and then reinstall the hinge nut so that its flange covered the pinblade's cut hole perimeter.
As has been stated, the hinge nuts take a bit of work (hammering) to get out and back in again, but the final look is nice.
Did you have to remove the playfield to install the pinblades?
Quoted from Goody64:
Short post....Just wanted to reach out to everyone who posts on this thread and say thank you for the help. I’m a first time pinball owner. I have been looking for a long time to buy one for my home theater. I was initially looking at the stern version of pirates and would search for some used ones in my area when I came across a company called jersey jacks who was making a new version of it. I found a local distributor who has a bunch of games to try out and liked the guardians game with the video screen. So the stern pirates without the video didn’t excite me. So I watched a ton a videos on the JJP POTC to see how it played since no one local had it. Well my local distributor got a standard edition in and had it set up to play. I rush over to play and bought it. Once we got it set up, I had some buyers remorse. I should have got a LE, but it seemed they were all sold out. My distributor came through though and found me the LE version and we made a deal to get it to me. So two of them had to go up a flight of stairs and one down. Those are some heavy machines. Anyways my local distributor has been great. Help me set everything up, I put all the mods on it and we love it. My son and I play it almost every night. He is really getting into pinball and we even went to our local distributors store for a tournament. My son has figured out more secrets than I have on the game. The machine has had some issues, but with everyone’s help and frank at jersey jacks we have it all dialed in and been having fun. You don’t know how much this thread has helped. It only took a month to go through all the posts to see if the issues I had were already discussed. Now there is the troubleshooting tips page that is great. Anyways thanks for the help. The game is great. Makes the other games feel like toys when we play them. Loving my POTC LE number 14. Thanks for all the help!!
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I like those ships that you're using for toppers. Where did you get them?
Quoted from rs812:
I would like too, but I haven’t found a set that is made correctly. Pinbits makes the best ones I have used, bur they do not have a set for JJPOTC. I ordered the set from Mezelmods, but wasn’t impressed. They were too thick and poorly/roughly cut on the edges. I ended up giving them away.
Thus far I have just used the petg washers on the corners of the slings.
I hope to design/machine protectors for my POTC, once I get my machine. I use 1/16 clear polycarbonate.
My concern regarding washers...The slingshot rubbers are now at a higher elevation. Wouldn't this cause more downward force on the ball? This might cause premature wear in locations where the ball meets rubber.
Quoted from paynemic:
Just put a deposit on an LE to join the club. Played for the first time last night. Crazy deep game. My brain exploded. But if nothing else, I always went back to the canon shot... What a great toy!
Congrats on finding a POTC LE.
I thought I got lucky when I ordered mine back in March. I guess some LE's are still available.
When I was setting up the machine....I go to pivot the backbox up....my backglass and speaker panel were just hanging in the backbox. JJP didn't attach my backbox speaker panel during assembly.
Quoted from bigdaddy07:
Those guys must be lighting up fat ones during their breaks. Any other issues? Mine is coming from that same batch. I'd by lying if I said I wasn't worried, considering their track record.
I haven't played mine yet. Waiting on my Cliffys to arrive. I did notice that my slings appear to have the plastic washers, but I can also see that clearcoat swelling around a few of the posts already.
Quoted from BC_Gambit:
Your life but I have 300 or so intense plays on mine so far. No scoop or map wear I can see. I did put removable mylar on some ball drop locations. Because why not.
I have cliffy's on order but the tortuga one is of most interest to me. If tjere is a small chip on the map whole that you can't see whole playing is that a big deal? Not to me.
Tortuga wear is more in your face but mine looks new.
Considering I'll be digging into the machine a bit while installing the cliffys, I make take advantage of the situation and design/manufacture some plastic protectors while I'm at it.
I noticed that the foam pads were removed on 3 of my spot targets. Is everyone's machine like this?
I also noticed that there is no mylar on the playfield where the ball exits the wireform and falls into the inlanes.
Does anyone know what size lock is being used in the backbox?
I was thinking about replacing it with a black lock.
Although I've been waiting for my Cliffys before I played my 1st game, I couldn't resist temptation. I've decided to play a few games. Even though I don't have a clue as to what I'm doing, I can see what all the fuss is about.
Holy cow!!!....this machine is going to be FUN!!!
Quoted from KingBW:
Sooooo ... do you have the clear plastic protectors ready for us yet?
I'm hoping to start on that soon. My method of manufacturing is a little more involved compared to cutting them out on a laser. I'm still having to focus on the "real work" that I have in the machine shop.
Quoted from tatapolus:
I had the luck to meet Kevin McNally on a job and I asked him to sign my lockdown bar. He was quite surprised. He said he has not played it yet or even seen the final machine. He was really nice and mentioned it took him days to record all the callouts.
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I didn't realize that he did the call-outs.....that's pretty cool
I have to say....
JJP has awesome customer service.
When my POTC arrived on 5/16, the backbox speaker panel and backglass were just wedged into the backbox. The 2 screws that held the speaker panel weren't installed. I just noticed this morning that I have a few small areas where the paint is missing. I talked w/ Frank at JJP. A new backglass is already on its' way.
Quoted from Zora:
I just connected the cable to the sub woofer with the headphone plug in at the cabinet front. The sub works, but only the sub. The middle and high speakers in the backbox are out. How can I plug the sub in without losing the backbox speaker?
I used this...
Quoted from tgrinchy:
Hey guys! I've been lurking on Pinside for a good 3 years now searching for my first pin (NIB at that) and finally settled on JJP POTC! Just received it last week and this game totally lives up to expectations - super happy!!
I bought an LE from Christopher from Kingpin Games and he's been awesome with the whole transaction! Had a few little issues (as with any pin) and he's "righted the ship" so to speak and been great! Highly recommend him!
I've had my POTC LE for 2 weeks now. Awesome game!
Quoted from dts:
I didn't think so and bailed on my LE(in part due to the chipping concerns as well), then signed up for the standard. The only things that are missing are the GI RGB lights, the starfield, textured powdercoat, and the topper, which isn't great. You can get the shaker ($150), the headphone jack/volume assay ($84), the Devil's Triangle Sculpture over the left wireform ($54), and the spinning pirate Tom, which you can plug in on the Standard ($220). Add powdercoating and the invisiglass, and you are up to $1000 at least. So on further reflection, it probably is worth the difference for upgrades, and I may have missed some, if you like that kind of thing.
For the extra 1k, I really think you're getting a decent bargain w/ the LE upgrades. I'm really glad I was able to get one of the last LE's from Joe at PinballStar. I sprung the extra coin to have the radcals installed. Along with a bunch of mods from the ModCouple and the Mezels, this machine really stands out amongst the crowd.
Quoted from mountaingamer:
Mezel, the Mod Couple, Yelo, Harry and whoever else - you all are killing it! Thanks for what you do to give us the bling our games deserve. In an attempt to protect my kids college funds, I thought I’d try the action button coin mod myself. The coins I ordered are bigger than I expected, and tougher to cut just right, but I have about 92 left to make more if this thing crumbles when it gets smacked.[quoted image][quoted image]
Those look great...
Where did you get them?
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