Quoted from KevInBuffalo:
Got it. Thanks!
I'm excited to see a stream of this and the teams feedback. I think you guys are some of the best out there.
Quoted from lordloss:
I'd argue this game out does DI and HOBBIT for sure.
Not even close when comparing to DI. I would have agreed with Hobbit until I bought one. I actually think pirates is a downgrade in quality after now playing a production version 30 times or so. In fact the presentation especially is off and things like the nice powder for LE seems to be gone. I'm disappointed right now but early impressions can change as the layout is amazing. Don't mean to be Debbie Downer but that's where I am right now with this title. Just came back from playing after thinking about buying one
Quoted from PanzerFreak:
Yeah, The Hobbit has probably the nicest factor powder coat ever created for a pinball machine, followed by WOZ in my opinion. The factory powder coat for Dialed In LE is average and is a downgrade from both WOZECLE and Hobbit LE. The powder coat on Dialed In LE is just a flat color and doesn't have no where near as nice of finish as the powder coat on WOZ ECLE and Hobbit LE. The powder coat on POTC LE is designed to feel like the finish of a canon and I think it does a pretty good of doing that. I wish that the LE model came with some type of metal plate around the lockdown bar button similar to Stern Star Trek and ACDC.
On another note WOZ ECLE has a mirrored backglass, Hobbit artwork is printed on the backglass I believe (but not mirrored) but both Dialed In LE and POTC LE have translites. On Dialed In you have to spend $12.5K for the CE to get a mirrored backglass and the higher quality metallic finish powder coat...ugh. I don't like that JJP stopped putting mirrored backglasses on their LE games yet prices have gone up with each model.
Agreed with the backglass. By no means am I writing off pirates but I'm just disappointed right now that's all. I think even pirates quality jjp smokes Stern but cost is higher too...
Kevin - I'm excited to hear you compare your experience with this game and dialed in now that you own both. I suspect they compliment each other well with one being standard other side so let's ignore that for now..... Straight vs mode..... On a desert island with only one of them..... Which one is it?
..... And we know it's early for pirates but immediate first impressions is still helpful.
Quoted from KevInBuffalo:
Don't make me choose!
Keeping in mind that I'm still in the honeymoon period with it, honestly just due to the sheer number of ways you can approach the game with the different captains and sets of modes etc, I'd probably pick POTC for the desert island. Not to mention it'd be thematically appropriate!
And that's saying a lot because I LOVE Dialed In. So there you go, for whatever that's worth.
That's it! I'm selling my DI!
haha jk - thanks for the input.
I played this game a lot tonight and it's really fun. Not 10k fun for me but I'll be the first to jump in huo.
I've really come around to the upper pf ship. Prob one of the best in pinball. Not into the theme at all but it's the 2nd best widebody out there.
I think I might be joining this crazy club......super excited if I do. Been playing this at a local bar and really starting to appreciate all the value it provides. Will need to review all of the fixes although the idea of cutting things has me a little worried!
I like the idea of changing the figure that spins but def don't want more Depp. Where are others buying replacements and can they link here?
Getting mine Sunday - super pumped. I ended up spending about $20 at the local pin pub place as I really got into the game, put the music loud and it really opened up the game. Opportunity presented itself and I jumped on it. My biggest concern was the Pirate theme as I don't care POTC but it's really not heavy on POTC - it's more generic which I like. Still wish the powder was Hobit nice but that's fine. It shoots really well, always played fast and now that I know what to do on that ship, I like it. It also has that super satisfying left loop which is rare and I love the secret shots, odd left lane drain and right lane come back.
I just hope the right ramp ship shot doesn't get tedious after a while. More to come.
Btw all the modes I've seen are shoot X X X shot. Are they all like this with just a varying amount of shots or is there more variety like Hobbit?
Quoted from Gusphan:
That's sort of correct. On the surface, you're right.
But here's the thing: aren't all games with modes just shooting lit shots? Not sure what you're expecting? And in fact, the way the game works, there's over 120 modes, with 25 randomly selected per game. So every time you play, your shooting different shots for each movie's chapters. There's no other game out there that compares.
Then, you add in the layer where character selection changes values, could make modes easier, makes it so you don't have to shoot that character for certain modes, etc...
Added to that, you can change the value of modes by holding their value, completing more modes. There's just so much there...
What's amazing about this game is that there's so many different strategies to employ, due to character selection.
Check out the Hobbit and how varied the modes are. For example telling you to not hit certain shots and although it has a ton of drop target specific modes, it does a good job to make it seem that it's not just X shot.
I don't own this yet so can't comment for sure just asking based on videos I've seen.
best video to watch to get a better understanding of the rules? Looked at Bros and some others but curious what people like....
Quoted from kidchrisso:
ZMeny... you should use this one instead....but what do I know not sure I would want his ugly mug on there twice...[quoted image]
where are you guys getting these figures to replace the popper guy?
Also this sdtm video contains such a great amount of info on this game that I haven't seen anywhere else.
Thanks. Going to try and find figurines of others as I'm already looking at Jack right in front of my flippers. I want DJ.
eBay 15% off everything today time to do it
How are you guys removing the original and attaching new?
So what is the right way to update code to .98? Want to ensure I don't make the same mistake
Game is in the house and updating code now.
First thing I noticed is that the screen by default is very washed out. After adjusting the contrast of the screen from 50 to 85 or so, it's much better. Much more pop - just requires to you unhook the tv lock and bring it out.
EDIT - still waiting for code to update. In the meantime I noticed there are tip screens in b/w balls. Anyway to turn those off?
Smoothest standard body meet the smoothest widebody!
I'm really getting into the code and things are making sense but sometimes I get in the upper pf and it's like I've already qualified the sails but didn't do anything
Best upper pf in the game. Period.
so where exactly is the hurry up shot? I see lights flashing towards the top center but is it chest or star?
The pf if you look at it closely really does a good job of laying everything out for the player. The amount of shots on this game is staggering. Music is absolutely fantastic (David is such an amazing talent - he nailed Alien too). The lack of voice acting isn't noticeable UNTIL the modes - I feel like they are a little underwhelming right now. If it wasn't for the amazing bell/chime effects, the unique music along with the too short video clip, it would be disappointing but these elements make them enjoyable.
An absolute beast of a game - really a special widebody with so many enjoyable toys. I'm even digging the gold button which I thought would be annoying but it's fun trying to get the gold but not lose the next shot. Animations on the screen are 11/10.
So I can qualify chapters but how do I actually get credit for chapters so I can combine with MB mode to get wizard? Do I need 5 or so to at least start?
Also - best way to tweak the tuga VUK? Sometimes mine shoots into the right inlane. It's really the only thing I've seen that doesn't play as expected and even that works 7 out of 10.
so two items:
1) Gold button sometimes gets stuck a little after multiple presses - anyone experience this?
2) Bumper VUK sometimes hits sling. I know you can change power but it seems like it could be more than that. Anyone experience this and any thoughts to have it kick out clean 100%? Right now it's around 70%?
Quoted from PsychoPsonic:
Could also try the Stern button that folks say doesn't bind:
Nice - I might do that too. Now for that bumper VUK.....I'll take a look through here.
Quoted from LTG:
Two screws from the bottom up. Then two screws hold the figure/barrel to the pop bumper. Page C-32 in the manual.
I don't think double sided tape or hot glue would last long on a pop bumper.
LTG : )
Btw can someone post the left spinner devil's triangle from their game? Mine works and spins fine but is it designed to be on an angle?
I guess mine is like that too. It plays perfectly so I'll leave it. By the way this stuff worked wonders on my coin button. Works perfect now. Little spray and all good. Loving this game.
Speaking of the shooter lane those metal guides on it are not in my DI. It almost seems to keep the ball from touching the wood so will this prevent shooter wear going forward? I usually mylar up down there! You know safety first of course
Two gameplay questions:
Can someone explain constellation shots/bonus? I understand all the other rules but not sure what I'm expected to check on that star map in the back. I thought it was just decoration!
Chapter selection - if you don't pick the character that allows you to pick, how are you guys focusing on getting five of the same color considering it's very easy to light other movie chapters and then you're left with just random chance. I'm struggling with qualifying 5 chapters preventing me from getting wizard....
Quoted from Psw757:
You have to have sniper skills and some ball control to really focus on one movie and 5 chapters.
Calypso is the easiest path to wizard modes.
Ok so you're really just shooting for chapters and hoping to qualify what you can vs focusing on 1 movie.... Seems like that's going to be challenging without using that one character to get 5 started.....a good challenge though. Love how many ways they're are to play this
Quoted from Psw757:
I like the shooter rod, who is selling these?
tonycip. 35 shipped. Absolute steal imo. Great product.
Btw I'm continuing to tweak the color of the display and I think I like these settings for more color pop. Might be a little much but running with it for now. Looks closer to my dialed in display.
FYI for those that want to try.
Edit - little too much. Went to 7500 color and 85 brightness and 92 contrast for now.
Quoted from zaphX:
I managed to fix my shooter lane issue! BIG thanks to my distributor Gary from Abel Electronics who conferenced me in with JJP support.
Their immediate response allowed me to learn how to safely remove the shooter wireform, bend it a bit so it snugs up where it should, and reassemble the game.
I am now only having three issues:
1. Sticking gold button (like everyone)
2. Off-center topper (like everyone)
3. No Star Map functionality (but I think upgrading the firmware may fix this? I’m on 0.96)
4. No tilt bob (replacement en route)
This has been an exhausting and frustrating day. Getting the 330lb of pin up the stairs was quite a challenge, even for two people and a rented power stair climber.
I am glad the game is now working and I can enjoy it!
And again, big ups for support from the two companies involved. Problems happen but it’s how you respond to them that matters.
Check my post about the gold button bc after spraying it the button has been working perfectly.
Quoted from PBMAN:
Bye Bye Tom
Would this character work as a replacement? I would like to put him on but not sure with that jacket...
yelobird just received the two mods. Super quick shipping great quality. Feel like these came factory they work so well. That lockdown bar seems makes without something on it like Hobbit while the Canon really gets the point across that we all imagine is there is really there now.
btw - I bought my mirror blades from pinballsidemirrors.com (cointaker owned) - get the JJP WOZ/HOBBIT version.
Quoted from Yelobird:
Thats the one I am using for my game but I paid WAY less then that! As the Series 1 figures have long gone out of production you need to simply keep your eye out they do pop up cheap you just can't be in a hurry! Mine cost $18 and don't worry about the NIB variable as your going to throw away the box And over half of the figure anyway! lol
post a pic? Would like to see what it looks like
Quoted from seenev:
Now that Depp has been kicked from the series, could we see a version of this game without a huge picture of him in the middle of the playfield? That picture made me think this game looked terrible even though it's supposed to be a great game.
What's funny is that I was bummed about Depps face being there right in the front but guess who both my kids gravitated too as soon as we got this....Depp's character. They never seen the movies but of all 22 characters, Depp is their fav and it's not even close. I've actually gotten warmer on the idea as there aren't many characters that look like a typical pirate believe it or not (with the full pirate setup).
This game is really something special. More I play, understand - the rule set to me is actually fairly simple to follow compared to my other experiences with games like WOZ. The team did a really good job to clarify what is going on - call outs on this game are some of the best to help the player too. Only exception is this starmap - no idea still. They could also touch up the rules on the boat for newbies.
Such a great game - widebody especially.
Quoted from f3honda4me:
I like the Depp pictures.
On another note, got to kraken and fountain of youth wizard modes last night. Didn’t beat them. But the wizard modes feel epic. The sound, the lighting, you feel like you’re in an epic one on one battle with your game.
agreed! I've gotten to two - both were presented well.
Quoted from konghusker:
The play field art looks great imo. There's no way you could have a potc movie based game and not have Jack frickin sparrow on it. Get real. He IS the main character. Nobody has to like Depp, but sparrow is a must on this game, and I think the play field looks like it should.
Totally agree with this. It's unavoidable.
Pinstadiums about to be installed. Not sold yet on using them for this game so transferring from another. Will report back very soon. I was skeptical on DI but it made a HUGE diff so going in on this too.
I play in complete darkness at night so they def could use but concerned the modes shots and other times it's very apparent the GI has changed color that it's going to be lost (that impact). again will report back soon
OK - so here we go. I have to say, I doubt these pics will get this across but with the way I have them configured (not 100% full blast but 70 or so) - they are EXACTLY what I need for full dark play. Put a red/purple color with the whites - perfect for what I need.
Flasher integration using the Shaker motor to push off the uv is great too.
Btw there are red clouds on the star map.... Never even noticed that before haha
I will post these here but trust me, the way it looks in person is not as extreme. Very happy - only in FULL dark play would I need this but that's the way I play at night!
Edit - went a little lighter and blue. This could be the best. I wouldn't use this unless with no lights on. See third pic for this on and fourth off
Quoted from Yelobird:
That second picture looks awesome! lol Sorry while I like that product, just didn't seem needed in this title. Its a dark pirate theme no need to night baseball the playfield in my opinion.
I look at the pictures I uploaded and I would comment that's great but it looks like hot garbage too!
It's so hard to demonstrate what these lights do but trust me, the lights did exactly what I wanted. Very happy.
Btw straightened out my left spinner. Push the bracket up and to the left of anyone else has this issue. Mine was getting caught under the Rock and ramp
Quoted from f3honda4me:
Installed mod couple disc silencer. Easy with great instructions included. And it’s like night and day. MUCH quieter, almost silent even.
Good to hear. I have mine but haven't installed yet. Disc is noticeable but not really while actually playing. How long did it take you as instructions are extensive
So I notice there are skulls in the chapter icons under each movie. I'm talking about the 5 spaces that represent your chapter progress. One of them is a skull. What does that represent?
"So if the skull is in the fourth box from the left on the row, that just means you’ll start whatever chapter the game has chosen for that spot if you start a chapter and it lands on that colored movie. Regardless, you have to play 5 from that movie to progress towards qualifying that movie’s wizard mode."
I understood everything except this part. Does the multiplication of value you described just apply to the chapter in the skull slot on the screen? Still not sure what these skulls mean that are placed randomly once on the five chapter slots on the screen
Quoted from Pinballpal:
From one of the JJP guys.
“If I read what you're asking correctly, the skull icon under the open cannon port indicates the currently selected chapter from that movie that you have qualified. I'm pretty sure it has the Chapter title displayed somewhere there, but I'm not currently in front of a game(I'm at a bar a mile from the factory, actually. I've been in Lakewood NJ getting the CEs off the line). If you shoot that movie's shot again, the skull will move one position to the right, indicating that you have changed that movie's qualified chapter to the next one. Each movie has 5 chapters pulled from it's pool of 25ish at the beginning of the game, and the skull indicates which one from that movie you currently have as the contender to start if you shoot Chapter Start. If you only have one movie lit, obviously the Chapter that skull is indicating is what you will start. If you have multiple movies lit, then it will be a toss up between whichever chapter the skulls are currently referencing from the different movie's.... Hope that cleared it up! But I've had a couple 9% IPAs and am typing on my phone”
Haha I'm not sure why but I just don't understand the point still. I'll read again...
Quoted from Pinballpal:
Each movie has 25 chapters available but only five chapters get picked out of those 25 for a game. The skull represents one out of those five. And every time you hit that movies shot the skull moves selecting a different chapter out of the 5.
So it has no point purpose? It just they're to select different chapters? I just want to determine if I need to care about it at all from a score perspective bc I was trying to get the movie that corresponded to slot that had a skull on it on the map thinking more points when getting chapter select shot
Quoted from f3honda4me:
I completely agree. I figured at least this way if they were not already aware, they would read and see the bug if others also had this.
Appreciate you mentioning this. I disabled the tips as they are SUPER annoying but I'm seeing all black which I thought was normal. I'll prob swap back to check it out thanks
Anyone know how to earn extra balls? I think it says constellations but how do you earn those? Or are those the shots where symbols are shiwn
Quoted from moTiv8:
Had another very funny Game and ended #1 with an high ARRR! Frenzy score (stacked Multiball with 5x Playfield and then started Frenzy).
Not so easy anymore to get in the High Score List.
This Game is so much fun
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Get the F out of here. For those posting scores please confirm how many balls per play. I know the Europeans love their fine ball
Quoted from Crile1:
Ok, side mirrors: who to get from (pinballsidemirrors.com?) and what type? B/W, JJP Hobbit/WOZ, or JJP Dialed In?
check my posts in this thread as I installed mine from the same website and they worked perfectly fine. JJP Hobbit WOZ
I also second Modcouple making premade DJ to sell. Just not my type of thing.
for people who don't own this game and are reading this thread every day seeing new issue after another - maybe I'm just the lucky one but I haven't had any real issues. Literally none. The game plays amazing too. I just wanted to mention this b/c if I was a new buyer and read this thread I might be concerned about getting one.
Quoted from KingPinGames:
i would also say that at least 90% of these are "pinball issues," and not "PotC issues."
switch adjustments, coil adjustments, etc are all issues that are common across ALL pinballs. the broken wires, offset toppers, etc have all been remedied at the factory and new buyers should not run into those (neither should the other buyers, but it happened and JJP corrected it in later builds).
yeah I just get a little concerned that new buyers are going to read this thread and get discouraged......thought i would mention my experience thus far.
The only thing I wish I could focus more on is the chapters. I feel like the random system makes is a little frustrating to advance in them unless you pick that one character. The game is so large that you almost always end up shooting a chapter shot so you're qualifying almost all and the likelihood you get the same one 5 times becomes a game of you intentionally NOT trying to hit shots. Again - I understand you can pick that one character to select chapters and thank god for that BUT I wonder if a game code could help this out. In fact the chapters in general are my biggest weakness right now as I feel like they aren't special enough. I love the chimes that plan when you see the shots you need to hit and i like the movie clips - I just wish they were longer and they stood out more. They don't feel as special as I think they could - like they are too generic right now.
Quoted from anathematize:
i've also been feeling a bit similar to this. i know Tia is available to alleviate the selection process but I have way too much fun just playing Blackbeard games. i know its possible to stack up some good values focusing on chapters but it seems much more exciting going for big scores via stacking multiballs. really the best 'mode based' games i've played usually result because i'm getting chapters going with the multiballs going and the shots just happen naturally.
i'm hoping with some code updates they can add some more dynamic modes a'la The Hobbit (the moving targets, shot progression type of modes, etc). maybe a little score balancing between chapters and multiballs too.
Agreed on the Hobbit making it feel more like that.
Quoted from FlippinJB:
The more I play this game, the more I like it. I’ve had POTC for about 2 months, and not really had the time for a really good session without friends there, putting me off with their shouting and sloshing beer around.
I’m an average player (and that’s being kind to myself!), but after watching the video linked earlier in this thread where Keefer went through the rules, I concentrated on chapters, using Tia Dalma as my character so I could focus on one movie. With lots of nudging and swearing, I managed to get myself just one chapter off an episode’s wizard mode (the one on the Maelstrom ramp – the only shot I can make reliably). I now also understand the skull value!!
The atmosphere created by the music, sounds and lighting is second to none, IMHO. Can’t wait for my next game, and it will be a long time before this one leaves my collection! Brilliant.
I still don't understand the skull value!! haha
Quoted from tonycip:
I was trying to dial in some things and was still having a problem with the devil's triangle. Every time I hit the ball up there I can expect it to come down and hit directly on the top point of the left sling then bounce directly over to the right drain lane, so I end up wasting tilt warning in desperation to try and save it. I took off the mountain and plastic covering the area to try and adjust the outer most ball guide to try and feed the left flipper. but there's only one screw on the end, and it's not slotted. I still was able to manipulate it with the screw loose but nothing seemed to help, any Ideas ? how does your's work?does it feed your flipper ? thanks
I never noticed until I read your post but mine currently doesn't feed the flipper directly it does hit the top left but does rebound to a playable spot nearby almost every time. If it's truly meant to feed flipper I'm curious if anyone's does too.... Without tweaking
Quoted from Yelobird:
I've never seen it feed directly to the flipper nor do I think they layed it out to be a smooth predictable out-feed. More of a random pinball type exit. Haven't had any issues with it granted I don't play well enough to judge the design. lol
OK - so it's not intended to roll back to the flipper then? Interesting.
Quoted from Crile1:
For me, I'm using the Pinnovators 4 in 1 mixer to hook 4 games that can run simultaneously off of one sub. Last night my son and I played Hobbit and WOZ and sub was able to mix them so that each of us could hear our own games. Worked really well. Of course, Hobbit is the king when it comes to how great the sub works. Smaug shakes the room when he talks now...and we love it...well, maybe not my wife...but the kids and I do!
One sub powers four games accurately? I guess I'm just I'll school as I go 1 sub per game alligator clips ftw
My mirrors on my Pirates are perfect - no scratching. Make sure you're really pushing them in when installing.
Quoted from Yelobird:
The Kraken needs some love.... Beware The Kraken!!! Choose your path wisely and hit that Maelstrom right or fear the Kraken. Introducing the Kraken Custom mod. Complete the look of the dangerous Pirate seas with The Kraken. While mechanisms are a necessity of pinball at times they can spoil the world under glass feel. The Kraken mod was layed out and designed to partially hide the mechanical components and further build the theme look. A simple yet reversible installation and works perfectly with the Maelstrom Mod perfectly! Beware The Kraken or be ready for Davy Jones locker!!! Available Now from our website store, Pirates Welcome!
The Mod Couple
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now that is cool. Nice.
yelobird - order incoming. That octopus mod is too awesome for me not to have it!
So what's the consensus on the vuk by the pops not going diem the middle? Best settings/tweaking?
Quoted from bigd1979:
I know of a few on fb and a few others just around my area that sold . All them sold for 8600- 8700. . Not to bad of a loss imo. Im actually thinking of getting one before production is over.
8600 is leaving money on the table. Game will sell in a heartbeat at 8900.
Big D jump on board. The game is loaded.
So I was very skeptical of all these rumors around pirates being phased out and not to say kaneda is a guarantee but even he's now reporting pirates manufacturing will end very soon.
Seems like woz, then WW than Toy Story so an opportunity for more pirates really seems rare especially how detailed and custom that game is another run wouldn't be easy. Plus that license isn't going to last too long so it's not like they can just continue producing indefinitely.
Who knows how this will end but it seems pirates could be a "rare" game at least for 2019. Crazy to me bc I'm not someone to keeps games too long and even pirates, well you never know but this game is absolutely loaded with just not "stuff" but really great feeling shots, the best upper pf in history, a sick left looper up top and code that keeps your interest. Once they refine the modes a bit, I would say it's one of the best I've ever played and I've played many.
How many widebodies can you say when playing - you forgot it was a widebody?! It's amazing how fast yet loaded this game is.
Smoothest widebody every made. It's smooth period. Upper PF was my biggest concern and it getting boring. Def does not. It's my fav upper in all of pinball. Sound/music is from my fav pinball guy (David Theil - hobbit, Alien, etc) and he delivers again.
yelobird mod couple Kraken mod fan here as well. The best mods are ones that look like it came from the factory. Look how this completes that left ramp by covering that mechanic and really bringing in the Pirates theme.
Gold around the gold button also makes a great impact. Kraken plays just as well as the crumbled City mod on AFM to cover up that mechanic.
Quoted from Crile1:
I own all JJP's except for DI and the only thing I can say that POTC is lacking in comparison is a big "moment". WOZ has Melting the Witch and Hobbit has killing Smaug (and let's face it, every Wizard mode has one at it's intro). But POTC has the best shots of the three by far and has that JJP over the top mech thing going for it. I don't think we will see anything major added to this game as coding is probably done for the foreseeable future except for polish. But, you never know. WOZ got lots of later updates as did Hobbit and DI, so I would never count out JJP's coding department...which is the best or at least on par with the best. JJPOTC is just a great, balanced game. The one thing that the lack of assets did for the game is it did make it faster. With no reason to stop the ball and look at the screen to watch a scene, it means the ball keeps moving. And maybe that is where it's magic lies. Anyhow...just my thoughts. My only gripe after owning for almost 3 months is that I can't seem to beat any of the wizard modes....ARRGH! Gosh I want to get further into the fountain of youth wizard to see what happens next. Until then..."select your character!"
That's a good point about big moment but I was thinking it's bc I haven't beaten any wizard mode. I would think these big moment exist maybe we're just not good enough to see yet?
Quoted from heni1977:
I have not heard anything about the final wizard mode yet or even seen it talked about here lately.
I love mod couples mods, But I am not to much of a fan of the Kraken mod as I feel it takes some of the view away from the Dauntless. I agree that the mech being partially hidden is better.
Would be cool if it was a little smaller and lite up when that multi ball was ready. Just me thinking is all.
Don't worry yelobird still love your mods!!!!!
At 6ft tall, maybe that's wy it's not an issue b/c from realworld experience, it doesn't block anything for me. I can understand that though.
I noticed on the stream that the left devils triangle shot, when returning, was exiting right AROUND the left sling and to the flipper.
This was a question asked earlier and almost everyone's comes back and hits the sling. How did they get this to work so smoothly?
Yelobird - can you sell the spinning barrel with the action figure on it? I know it can be done by myself but no time and skill level would only make it slower
Quoted from Pale_Purple:
I saw the first one when it came out and mostly hated it. Never saw another one, no interest for me. Went to the arcade twice last week to play this game and want to go tomorrow or Tuesday again, can’t get enough of this game. I’m actually in the same spot as you, this or the MBr. Wish I could afford both! Perfect combo I think.
I've only seen 1 movie. Don't care for any of them. Love the game.
I'm getting mbr later this month. Agreed perfect combo
Quoted from VillaThrills:
For me, the art blades did just fine especially with the PinStadium magnets helping center the playfield.
Can you take more pics of this but the entire table? I like the way they look so much that I'm thinking about replacing my mirrors with them ; )
Quoted from VillaThrills:
With the Pin Stadiums on and off as I know they aren’t everyone’s cup of tea. But for this pin, I love them. Not to get Tilt to make some new apron decals to match.
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Looks good. Seriously thinking about switching but it's a hassle. PS look great I have them too
Quoted from heni1977:
Don’t push me yelobird I will return all your mods!
Everything is going smoothly on silencer install! Love the instructions (pie hole)!
I still haven't installed mine - just haven't felt like it and work has been busy. Will install next week. Any tips from your experience? The instructions seem complex.
after watching the latest stream I noticed that the far left shot (devils triangle) came back to the left flipper where mine (and others) do not. Today I bent the left rail guide at the bottom to the right and happy to report that when I hit the devils triangle straight and it comes back - the ball now goes to the left flipper instead of bouncing off left sling.
FYI in the event anyone else wants it to do the same which I think is the way it's expected per the developers game....
Quoted from tonycip:
I've been trying to adjust mine for a while. where did you bend it the bottom is where it attaches to the playfield...
bottom by the screw. If you bend above that it might get in the way of the flipping target. It's not 100% but if it goes in there with speed its coming back to the left flipper.
Quoted from imagamejunky:
Yesterday I added this Pearl deck mod from Mezel. Thought I would post because I haven't seen it on this thread before. I think it looks like it was supposed to be there originally.
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I ordered as well. It's hard to look at it off now bc it looks so unfinished
Quoted from Coz:
I’m looking to buy a standard edition, anyone buy one and regret it? My distributor is going to work a trade plus cash for a nib. Wanted to get your opinions. I’ve previously owned DI and Hobbit and love JJP pins. Thanks
Are you buying to route? If so I can understand the standard. If not, LE all day for the reasons mentioned above.
Quoted from GCS2000:
If I put them on I am sure I would be doing the same. I want more light on games for sure but all the photos/vids all seem too bright almost washing out the art & color. Now on WOZ they look fantastic as that game just seems way too dark. And older game w/o LEDs just screams for pinstadiums IMHO. I just wouldn't want to over do it is all.
let me know if you need any pics of mine to help out. I def don't have them on full blast BUT they allow me to see the entire PF when it's dark.
Quoted from Yelobird:
While a great company with an amazing team of talent and support I Highly doubt they are going to disclose the business plans or forecast let alone on a public forum. And just a suggestion, to say “Sorry to be very Direct” ? To be very direct would be to send this To JJP directly not a thread post. In my Opinion, to date they have not abandoned their customers so I am fairly certain you have nothing to worry about with Pirates other then failing to get your hands on one while you can.
I was going to say the same thing - you can't expect them to black and white answer those questions. Here's my suggestion - do you want the game? Buy it. If you're worried about them making it again, I would too considering the rumor is that not only would the license need to be renewed, the cost of the game is high. Lethal combo in my mind.
I wouldn't worry about parts being available considering it's JJP not a bankrupt company BUT even something like that (Alien) - parts are actually available which is amazing so I really wouldn't be concerned about POTC not having parts. No way JJP would do that to a customer.
Quoted from Burley9043:
Listened to the latest Kaneda podcast and left wondering why he continues to ridicule those on this thread who love their POTC. He just cannot let this go as he cherry picks information from the thread and emails he gets to his show in an attempt to prove his point. (Notice that none of the emails supporting POTC are being read.) This is more than having a different opinion. He seems to be obsessed with the need to be right on an issue that is purely subjective. In his efforts, he fails to see the fallacies, contradictions, and hypocrisy in his own argument. (By the way, he remind us that he still has that Patreon account that he said he would no longer discuss on air.) I guess this is how his podcasts usually run and I know, stop listening. So I will end my rant and spend more time with podcasts like Slap Save and Special When Lit.
Not sure I agree with this at all. He's read plenty of supporting emails about POTC including my own and I think he's showing how he hasn't given up on the game but willing to give it many takes. I think he's been pretty fair on the entire subject and ultimately he might not like it which is fine.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:
I'll just say this about the Kaneda podcast. Jack agreed to come on the show a while back which was very nice. To then title a podcast "POTC Review GOAT? GTFO!" is both disrespectful to JJP and unprofessional.
Totally disagree. Not sure about you but I've grown tired of kiss ass podcasts. No problem with a guy titling a show with how he feels. I actually applaud this.
Quoted from Crile1:
Hah! Thanks. Didn't even look at the screen when I took the picture. And thank you for making this game even more beautiful. Your mods fit right in. Especially the Kraken. Looks like it was part of the original design.
The kraken is one of the best mods of all time.
I also agree that it's a cost thing. More then ever actually after they released WoZ yellow for 11.5 - an obvious increase in their margins.
POTC is prob the most loaded Pinball made ever. Speaking of, isn't it amazing how you don't see any POTC LEs for sale used? You're prob seeing the last "deal" from JJP if this trend continues. WW at 11.5 I'm out
Quoted from vireland:
Mechanically, The Hobbit is the most loaded, but most of it's under the playfield. The underside of Pirates looks positively sparse by comparison.
As a previous Hobbit owner I would agree that its the most loaded table under the pf. Good thing that no one cares about what's underneath the pf haha.
I guess I could rephrase that pirates is the most loaded on the pf...
For any Pirates owners thinking about selling your game, I would really think about your list price and ensure you don't leave any money on the table.
This game is sold out. Unless your game is not HUO I wouldn't drop below 9k & might even go higher. I've seen a couple below 9 sell in two seconds - not surprised bc def below market.
I'm holding onto mine right now bc it's really fun but it's also now a rare title.... Demand it's they're and will only grow considering jjps decision. At the very best, you won't see any Pirates until 3 games down the road...
Man people are a dream within a dream at this point with these adjustments. Now we're alerting the size of the stars? Haha
I've noticed there is a sound effect that plays that sounds like a "uggghh" - anyone know what that relates to? I can't figure it out and it doesn't happen all the time
Nope that is where you hear that over and over right? This is a different sound.
Although speaking of that mode how do you enable that again? Didn't see it as a selection in the inlanes but I've had it happen in game before not sure how
What's great about this game is I just posted my highest score (1.3) after playing two wizard modes not using the character that allows you to select movie chapters. I thought she would be necessary to get wizard modes but I believe I used the guy with longer MB or MB save with multiple drain.
Now I'm going to try the guy that makes chapter completion easier. I love the character selection in this game. Really allows you to approach it differently and as a video game guy is very familiar
Mine wasn't very loud but I still installed it and after a few games, it was really quiet or not even a consideration so I recommend regardless.
Quoted from rs812:
Wanna talk about QC, opened my NIB yesterday and here are the issues I had right out of the box
1. No tilt bob
2. No CD manual
3. Flipper coils on upper playfield were installed reversed, that is to say the left flipper button fired the right upper playfield flipper and vice versa
4. Left flipper roll pin was barely in and left flipper quit working after about 5 games.
These are not shipping issues. These are sloppy assembly issues. Build date March 1, 2019.
There is no way anyone is testing these things before they leave the factory. If this was tested, there is no way it could have left the factory with such an obvious mistake as number 3 above. One hit of the flippers would have made it apparent.
Wow sorry to hear. That's crazy.
Quoted from vireland:
But it will obscure the star map? Why would you want to lose that? It's integrated into the gameplay...
I would easily give up the starmap for movie clips. I love the game but some items are just not necessary. Compass included. Starmap though is the biggest one though. Great mod excited to hear more
Quoted from WyseGuy:
Imagine MY disappointment. I drove 10 minutes to his house and had to wait 5 minutes for him to correct left flipper issue.
Oh the horror! Did you at least bring him over a large pie?
Seriously Jack must be flying these games right from assembly to the box. He can't get them out of the factory fast enough to let Wonka get in there. If I'm Eric in thinking cmon guys - little respect for my masterpiece..... Which this game really is. I'm not a GOAT guy but this and alien are my favorite two since the classic Bally Williams.
Quoted from LordHelmet:
Not sure if anyone has installed Pin Stadiums on their POTC. I installed the Fusions and love them. If anyone has any interest about the how and why I connected what to what I’d be more than happy to share. Sorry about the bad video, took them on my one so 1 handed game play. Let me know and I can start posting.
I have them but be careful not to overdo the brightness b/c you lose the GI effects for the modes (all blue, all red, etc).
Quoted from cheshirefilms:
As much as I love sideart and/or mirror blades on the right game, I think Pirates is absolutely the wrong game, especially with the need to buy protectors for the blades to even try. Plus, I wouldn't go with a Kracken design. It would have to correspond and extend each section of playfield, like the SillyOldElf design on Monster Bash.
Might sound lame, but I think of the black sides as the art- the walls of the PoTC ride building as you ride through- at WDW, and I'm happy enough leaving well enough alone.
Not always necessary to install protectors when doing mirrors. I installed mine no issue.
Looks nice with mirrors - what game doesn't? I also love the water/kraken side art
Cost simple as that.
Kaneda was dead wrong about no one taking about pirates after wonka. It's a good game but potc has more going on and more creative imo and this is from sometime who will likely get standard
Man the more I think about the recent WW reveal from one of the greatest designers and all of that hype....I think about Eric hogbog and how I feel like he's forced now to be in this shadow role bc Jack is going to push through his new plan of less is more if you know what I mean. It started with the new WoZ and ww just confirmed this is the new strategy
Just tonight I did a DI to Wonka comparison that is so one sided for DI... Can you imagine if I were to compare JJPs lastest effort (potc) to WW? Logically speaking you would expect more but we all know that didn't happen and I feel like the insiders are closing their eyes and not acknowledging what is going on here. To that I say the following
Eric - amazing job again on this table. You deserve the spotlight longer than you had it but just know the true players not caught up in the inside hype know how great you are and how special this game is.
I look forward to your GnR table although I suspect Jack will put the strain on you more than potc. It's ok if so as we all received your true vision in potc and prod to own it.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:
From another thread regarding David Thiel still working on sounds / music for Pirates This information came out of MGC.
"He is still updating sounds on Pirates. I was hanging with him on Friday before the show and we ran into Eric Meunier. He told him about a few sounds he just updated in the game."
For the guys who are using their starmap during the game, can you explain when and how?
For me it feels like a complete waste like the compass so what am I missing bc it's cool to look at right now and nothing else.
I know a lot of non owners read this thread - just understand the power of this game right now. Went up for sale at 9k and like i expected, sold in two seconds. Market demand is off the charts. No surprise b/c it's an amazing game that is also rare.
10k no question, maybe even more.
So I still can't see these patterns in the star map. Can someone who uses this thing frequently take a pic when it's a pattern or elaborate further? I still have trouble... Prob the only thing I don't follow with this game.
Also what lane rewards strategies do people use? For mb I always select add a ball which is available only during mb
Quoted from wvpinball:
I was finally able to locate a Davy Jones figurine for my CE. Thanks David yelobird for the detailed modification instructions! I absolutely love the looks of this, especially on the CE version.[quoted image]
Damn. I just wish you can buy this already done.....
Yeah so kaneda is definitely getting this game. Heard the podcast and you guys are right - hilarious.
He knows what's up and guess what..... He'll be gushing about it shortly. Impossible for someone who likes Pinball not to enjoy this game.
Quoted from gumnut01:
Funny how everyone wants this guys approval. I actually watched all of SDTM reveal and review of this game. Was entranced and it was a huge factor in me getting this game. I believed from their videos that this was the best pinball had to offer. Then a few episodes later they brush Pirates aside as being too complicated with its code. This was a few weeks after they praised how great it was. So go figure. Reviewers opinions change so quickly. They must be writing it down on water.
Not looking for his approval just pointing it he's getting one.
Quoted from gumnut01:
Most of the times it is showing a number of x’s to represent the star posts. It also shows the pirate letters a lot. There is a symbol for the ship, chest and maelstrom. These are pretty easy to work out. Once you realise most of the time it is showing letters or x’s it’s not that hard.
What do the number of X's tell me though? Does the pirate letter tie to lane roll over and if so why? Jjp should release a faq on the starmap haha
Quoted from ZMeny:
We have never backed off our praise of POTC, not sure where you heard us brush it off weeks later. You must be thinking of someone else. I continue to own the game and thinks its one of the best out there. Got to a mini-wizard two nights ago and felt like I climbed Everest. haha
To each their own, but you do own a Star Wars Prem/LE which I continue to praise for being one of stern's best ever made, as well as a few others in your collection that we love.
Yeah I don't recall Zach or sdtm brushing it off either. Maybe bc they never did a proper review? That might be bc Zach sells jjp pins which is understandable. I know Zach's mentions a few times that he really enjoys it and it's at his home ... Bone already declared it one of the best ever in his top 10. I was surprised to see it didn't make Zach's list.
Quoted from Psw757:
eBay, neca series 3.
Back of the box shows some other interesting characters as well, cursed skeleton Jack Sparrow might look good.
Have to be honest that I procrastinated doing this for a while as Tom was fine but wow, once installed it totally gels with the art and theming. Really can’t go wrong with any of the characters.
Sparrow is the only goofy drunkard one that would be popping out of a barrel though so it’s perfect!
I'm in the same boat. Been procrastinating. Is it hard to do?
Quoted from ZMeny:
We reviewed potc an entire year before I became a distro. Hey Delt we seldom see eye-to-eye, but at least we can both agree that this game is one of the greats. Haha
Yeah I wasn't clear on that - I think you're referring to the review of the prototype. I don't think the production version had a review but that delux review was fantastic so maybe the crew didn't feel it was necessary to revisit. Either way, I think revisiting the game now especially as an owner would be well received by the audience - something to consider as I would be interested to hear updated feedback especially with the current mechs, any troubles you've had, your experience in home vs at JJP, do you regret not getting the CE, etc.
We def agree that the game is amazing.
btw - if I ever get to one of these shows and you're there, drinks on me. Appreciate the work you do, the podcasts (was listening to TWIP last night) and your answer to my earlier question. Makes sense. Thanks.
I just bought the same one. 35 shipped. Little more than I wanted to spend but not too bad. I just hope I don't mess it up
Big fan of this upgrade in the back left from mezel. Just installed.
This game is so loaded it's crazy
Well count me in for the pop toy replacement club.
Big difference really happy I did it. Super easy too like others mentioned. I actually split it apart with my hands then used the pop cap as a template (as mentioned) to manually screw in by hand. All set.
Series 3 Captain. I like that dumb smile on his face and who doesn't like boos and guns...
Dumb question but is there anyway to change the treble on jjp speakers? Or adjusting the sound at all besides volume? No right?
Quoted from Yelobird:
I used a $3 Cometpinball LED strip (12v) and you connect it to the spot lamp plugs which are also at the bottom of the playfield from the bottom side. I believe I did a write up on this in this thread some 5000 posts ago. lol
or connect it to the coin door light (via alligator clips). Imperative you get the 12v strip though otherwise it will get way too hot. Super easy, really necessary on pirates.
Anyone have a good idea of how to block the ball from getting off the pf after it drops from the ship? Doesn't happen often but the ball can actually bounce up and over and rest on the back right plastic.