I have an LE in the marketplace with some good mods. Listed at 20 but would do 17.5 firm
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Quoted from PinMonk:Stick it in the market for what you think is crazy money and see. With LEs going for the neighborhood of $20k now, a CE could easily be well over $25k. Would you be happy with $30k for it? Is it attractive to trade your one used jjPotC CE for 3 brand new Stern LEs or a couple new Stern LEs and a new jjGnR LE? Put your CE in the market for that price and see.
Do *I* think it's worth that? Uh, no. But there are plenty of people with the money to pay those prices that do, and it IS a fantastic pin.
You planted an ugly seed!
Quoted from ulmpharmd:I think I might have to..30 is actually that number. I love the game that much, but I’d have to let it go for that. I’ve heard of a few already going for those numbers. Thanks for the insight
You are getting blasted for this LOL
I guess you probably know this.
Quoted from ulmpharmd:I think I might have to..30 is actually that number. I love the game that much, but I’d have to let it go for that. I’ve heard of a few already going for those numbers. Thanks for the insight
If you love it, why list it?
Quoted from Butch2099:I have an LE in the marketplace with some good mods. Listed at 20 but would do 17.5 firm
One just sold around that price. If you changed your price I bet you get some folks interested. There is a lot of competition at 20k
Quoted from Green-Machine:You planted an ugly seed!
Meh, just pointed out the market realities of the jjPotC market. I didn't invent the jjPotC economy, I just comment on it occasionally. I thought it was crazy money when I sold a used LE for $12,500 more than a year ago. Now it's a lot crazier.
Quoted from Green-Machine:You planted an ugly seed!
You are getting blasted for this LOL
I guess you probably know this.
I posted my LE for sale for $20k a few weeks before everybody else did the same thing and got blasted by a couple of seemingly unhappy people who apparently missed economics class. You’re not losing if you can double or triple your money on anything, I wouldn’t feel bad about listing it for $30k. Needless to say, I took it down and decided to keep mine (even after $20k seems to be the target price for an LE).
Quoted from RobbyIRL5:I posted my LE for sale for $20k a few weeks before everybody else did the same thing and got blasted by a couple of seemingly unhappy people who apparently missed economics class. You’re not losing if you can double or triple your money on anything, I wouldn’t feel bad about listing it for $30k. Needless to say, I took it down and decided to keep mine (even after $20k seems to be the target price for an LE).
The money continues to get crazy on them, but I try not to think about that.
I think about: How much did I pay? How would I feel NOT having POTC? And how hard would it be to get back into one?
Quoted from RobbyIRL5:I posted my LE for sale for $20k a few weeks before everybody else did the same thing and got blasted by a couple of seemingly unhappy people who apparently missed economics class. You’re not losing if you can double or triple your money on anything, I wouldn’t feel bad about listing it for $30k. Needless to say, I took it down and decided to keep mine (even after $20k seems to be the target price for an LE).
Stating a fact. If seller can get paid that’s great
Quoted from zaphX:The money continues to get crazy on them, but I try not to think about that.
I think about: How much did I pay? How would I feel NOT having POTC? And how hard would it be to get back into one?
Hear Hear!
Quoted from RobbyIRL5:I posted my LE for sale for $20k a few weeks before everybody else did the same thing and got blasted by a couple of seemingly unhappy people who apparently missed economics class. You’re not losing if you can double or triple your money on anything, I wouldn’t feel bad about listing it for $30k. Needless to say, I took it down and decided to keep mine (even after $20k seems to be the target price for an LE).
I really enjoyed having it, and I think it's a great pin, but I can always play it at a show or a friend's place (once the Pandemic is under control) if I want to . When you're literally talking getting 3 Stern NIB LEs or 2 Stern NIB LEs and a jjGnR LE OR keeping one jjPotC CE, it's a pretty strong case for letting the CE go if someone is willing to pay $30k.
Quoted from zaphX:The money continues to get crazy on them, but I try not to think about that.
I think about: How much did I pay? How would I feel NOT having POTC? And how hard would it be to get back into one?
Did you share that thought with your wife? That’s a Lot of shoes lol.
Back in the club, for the final round. Great to be back, what was I thinking?! My wife has banned me from selling Pirates this time. Question: the topper motor runs basically all the time, even in attract mode, and isn’t communicating with the game. So I unplugged the motor. Any ideas?
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I never had a CE. Are there any data lines to the topper, or just the one 12v power connection?
Depending on where they're getting the 12v, maybe pinball_keefer has added some basic on-off interactivity and an on/off setting to the system settings in the long-overdue next release of the jjPotC software.
Quoted from dts:Back in the club, for the final round. Great to be back, what was I thinking?! My wife has banned me from selling Pirates this time. Question: the topper motor runs basically all the time, even in attract mode, and isn’t communicating with the game. So I unplugged the motor. Any ideas?
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Welcome back, email Steve Z. He is very responsive and helpful
Quoted from palmab03:is there any way to add that to my standard?
No. And your games dongle won't run it in standard software.
LTG : )
Quoted from palmab03:I've got a standard, and the only thing that I seem to regret not having is the 72 light starfield, is there any way to add that to my standard?
You can get the full starmap backboard mod. That's what I did. It's not interactive with the game, but it looks great. The SE version shows you the shot to compensate for not having it and very few people understand the starfield rules anyway so it isn't a big loss IMHO.
https://pinballmods.co/full-width-galaxy-starmap-backboard-plastic-jjp-potc
Quoted from LesManley:You can get the full starmap backboard mod. That's what I did. It's not interactive with the game, but it looks great. The SE version shows you the shot to compensate for not having it and very few people understand the starfield rules anyway so it isn't a big loss IMHO.
https://pinballmods.co/full-width-galaxy-starmap-backboard-plastic-jjp-potc
The LE and CE also flash the active shot (for a few seconds), so the star field is totally pointless unless you find it fun trying to decipher a vague bunch of dots 
Quoted from arzoo:The LE and CE also flash the active shot (for a few seconds), so the star field is totally pointless unless you find it fun trying to decipher a vague bunch of dots
I’ve never even looked at the star map once. The lcd screen on the apron points to the most valuable shot so if the star map shot was worth shooting for the compass would point to it.
Quoted from palmab03:So then what are the features people like so much on the LE and CE other than not staring at Johnny Depp? Aren't there only like 200 standards?
150 standards, 650 les and 200 CEs I believe
Quoted from Happy81724:150 standards, 650 les and 200 CEs I believe
What would people estimate the current market prices are for Standards?
Quoted from palmab03:So then what are the features people like so much on the LE and CE other than not staring at Johnny Depp? Aren't there only like 200 standards?
I believe there are less than 200 SEs, close to 150. The only things you can't replicate on the SE that the LE has are the color changing GI and the interactive starfield. The color changing GI isn't a big loss to me at all since all the inserts and Black Pearl lights etc. are color changing already and like others have said, the interactive starfield is overkill and you can get a full length one for $95 for any version. I have the Devil's Triangle rock mod and the spinning pop bumper mod (with a more relevant figure) and starfield in my SE and they look great. Back when the games were NIB and you got a shaker motor, HD glass, color changing GI, head phone jack, Devil's Triangle, cheap topper and spinning pop bumper in a limited edition version for only $1,000 more...the case could certainly be made that it was well worth it. At current rates, if you are looking for a POTC and can save $5k by "only" spending $14k on an SE instead of $19k on an LE, it's a no brainer to me.
Quoted from palmab03:That's pretty much what I'm getting at, why on earth would an LE be $5k more than a standard? Or are Standards now probably going for $16-17k?
People are attached to the "Limited Edition" naming of the game. Normally limited edition means something really unique and special, in this case as others have said, it's not even as limited as the standard version. Some people just hang on that LE title typical meaning and if you haven't played the game or researched the differences much, they don't even realize they aren't missing anything gameplay wise like you would be with a SE to LE on Wonka or GNR that have bigger/major game play differences between those versions.
I don't think SEs are at the 16-17k mark. I think they are probably pushing $15k, but they trade hands so infrequently since they are the rarest version by volume, that it is hard to get a really good grasp on the market for that specific version.
Quoted from palmab03:That's pretty much what I'm getting at, why on earth would an LE be $5k more than a standard? Or are Standards now probably going for $16-17k?
Standards are around 13-14k right now it seems. My buddy is looking for one and can get one at 14k but looking to pay closer to 13k. If someone was willing to pay 16k for my standard Id have a really hard time turning that down. When jjp ships me all my back up decals I think I’ll have around 10k Into it. I added the invisiglass and shaker. Waiting on the playfield decals and cab art decals plus my spare playfield which was under warranty
Quoted from LesManley:I believe there are less than 200 SEs, close to 150. The only things you can't replicate on the SE that the LE has are the color changing GI and the interactive starfield. The color changing GI isn't a big loss to me at all since all the inserts and Black Pearl lights etc. are color changing already and like others have said, the interactive starfield is overkill and you can get a full length one for $95 for any version. I have the Devil's Triangle rock mod and the spinning pop bumper mod (with a more relevant figure) and starfield in my SE and they look great. Back when the games were NIB and you got a shaker motor, HD glass, color changing GI, head phone jack, Devil's Triangle, cheap topper and spinning pop bumper in a limited edition version for only $1,000 more...the case could certainly be made that it was well worth it. At current rates, if you are looking for a POTC and can save $5k by "only" spending $14k on an SE instead of $19k on an LE, it's a no brainer to me.
Not that it’s a big deal at all, but the LE also has black trim vs stainless on the SE. I prefer the black but easy and inexpensive to change.
Quoted from Mrsiyufy:I’ve never even looked at the star map once. The lcd screen on the apron points to the most valuable shot so if the star map shot was worth shooting for the compass would point to it.
Whats funny is like someone said everyone is attached to that Limited title...I have a SE...and its modded out and MORE rare to own than an LE...Only thing I am missing is the spinning pop bumpers and the silly star map..I added a star map mod that goes across the entire back and it looks 10000x better than the factory one. If the right price came along, I would def. sell it. I guess my 100k joke for sale post pissed off some people as I was muted from the for sale group for 48 hours lol
Quoted from Trooper11040:Whats funny is like someone said everyone is attached to that Limited title...I have a SE...and its modded out and MORE rare to own than an LE...Only thing I am missing is the spinning pop bumpers and the silly star map..I added a star map mod that goes across the entire back and it looks 10000x better than the factory one. If the right price came along, I would def. sell it. I guess my 100k joke for sale post pissed off some people as I was muted from the for sale group for 48 hours lol
Silly people get upset but they are good with people trying to sell a car or dvds for a pinball on here. At least yours was a pinball for sale just at a really high price.
Where did you get the star map and do you have a pic of it?
Quoted from Happy81724:Silly people get upset but they are good with people trying to sell a car or dvds for a pinball on here. At least yours was a pinball for sale just at a really high price.
Where did you get the star map and do you have a pic of it?
Quoted from Happy81724:Silly people get upset but they are good with people trying to sell a car or dvds for a pinball on here. At least yours was a pinball for sale just at a really high price.
Where did you get the star map and do you have a pic of it?
Scott on this group makes them...here is the link to his website:
https://pinballmods.co/pirates-of-the-caribbean-jjp/full-width-galaxy-starmap-backboard-plastic-jjp-potc
It's awesome...If i get down there today ill take a video and put it on here...the mod has different settings you can play with to include different fades, timing, etc.
The fact that there are fewer SEs will never make them more desirable than LEs. Doesn't matter that they can be modded out to be "close" to LEs, buyers will never see them as equal. Just like LEs can never be CEs. Just the nature of the hobby I guess.
Quoted from dts:Back in the club, for the final round. Great to be back, what was I thinking?! My wife has banned me from selling Pirates this time. Question: the topper motor runs basically all the time, even in attract mode, and isn’t communicating with the game. So I unplugged the motor. Any ideas?
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Is there a "Topper Attract mode Animation" in Game Settings? *from the manual page B-29
Quoted from arzoo:The fact that there are fewer SEs will never make them more desirable than LEs. Doesn't matter that they can be modded out to be "close" to LEs, buyers will never see them as equal. Just like LEs can never be CEs. Just the nature of the hobby I guess.
It’s just a title. The game is identical minus a few toys
Quoted from Trooper11040:Whats funny is like someone said everyone is attached to that Limited title...I have a SE...and its modded out and MORE rare to own than an LE...Only thing I am missing is the spinning pop bumpers and the silly star map..I added a star map mod that goes across the entire back and it looks 10000x better than the factory one. If the right price came along, I would def. sell it. I guess my 100k joke for sale post pissed off some people as I was muted from the for sale group for 48 hours lol
I also added the full length star map to my LE I agree it looks much better than what was there before
The only real difference between the SE and the LE is the color changing GI, and arguably the computer controlled star map... Though, I much prefer the modded star map to the factory star map, and I think most people would. Anything else missing on the standard can easily be upgraded to LE level or better... Devil's Triangle, Spinning Pops, Shaker, Headphone Jack, Invisiglass?? Just buy them and plug them in. I think people are paying $5,000+ more for an LE for the bragging rights of saying they have a 'Limited Edition', even though they are actually 5x less limited. Another part of it is that a lot of people don't even seem to realize how little difference there is between the models.
I’m going to get bashed for this one, but I prefer the LE/SE art to the CE art, but the CE topper is pretty cool wish someone made a topper to replace my LE.
Quoted from Mrsiyufy:I’m going to get bashed for this one, but I prefer the LE/SE art to the CE art, but the CE topper is pretty cool wish someone made a topper to replace my LE.
I 100% agree and I no longer have a horse in this race to bias my opinion.
Quoted from EaglePin:Put a post sleeve on the post at the left entrance to the star map area. That will keep the ball from hitting the sling rubber on that post, which causes that rubber to wear out very quickly. The sling rubber on mine wore out quickly because of those direct hits. When I replaced it I put the post sleeve on and so far haven't had to change it since then.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jjp-pirates-of-the-caribbean-official-owners-and-fan-club/page/227#post-5094603
Okay, so I didn't have the 1/2 ID inch post rubber available, so I did this. I know it shortens the entrance a bit, but it will work for now and I'll order the post sleeve you recommended for the future.
Boy I'm getting really good at taking that upper playfield off.....it's not that bad, plus a lot easier to clean and wax with Ship off.
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The RGB lighting the SE is missing is a BIG difference. HUGE. It's used to full effect in the modes of the LE and CE.
Quoted from PinMonk:The RGB lighting the SE is missing is a BIG difference. HUGE. It's used to full effect in the modes of the LE and CE.
I was just going to say the same.
Even though there are more differences than that, the lack of RGB alone results in people never saying SE=LE even with mods.
Quoted from delt31:I was just going to say the same.
Even though there are more differences than that, the lack of RGB alone results in people never saying SE=LE even with mods.
Totally Agree, I didn't think it was that big of a deal, but man is it cool when the RGB colors change....it really adds to the game!
Quoted from PinMonk:The RGB lighting the SE is missing is a BIG difference. HUGE. It's used to full effect in the modes of the LE and CE.
Quoted from delt31:I was just going to say the same.
Even though there are more differences than that, the lack of RGB alone results in people never saying SE=LE even with mods.
Yep this is huge to me and many/most other's ...that along with everything else that the le allready comes with over the se is why many went with it and continue to go with it. I also like the topper and the effects too. There is also more lighting on the le with few more spotlights and does the se have the rgb strip on the left side of the right ramp? The se was a great buy but for 1k more at the time the le was a no brainer for most people. Again cant go wrong with any version of potc as all are great.
Quoted from delt31:the lack of RGB alone results in people never saying SE=LE even with mods.
I would NEVER argue that they are completely equal, but $5,000-$7,000 more for a dozen additional color changing lamps on the playfield? It sure made a lot more sense when there was only a $1k difference between the models, but my point was that this is more about prestige and collectability (which is more abstract) driving the market than it is about the tangible differences. Not that I have a problem with that.
Quoted from 3pinballs:Okay, so I didn't have the 1/2 ID inch post rubber available, so I did this. I know it shortens the entrance a bit, but it will work for now and I'll order the post sleeve you recommended for the future.
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Great idea..that area gets torn up pretty quickly
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