Oh, I didn't change it. I just bent it a little on jjPotC and it works fine. I thought you were looking for a black-colored backglass lock.

Oh, I was being anal and changed the locks to black ones. The sizes are common but the tang on the backbox lock is cut just a bit weird for the common locks you can buy. That and it's extraordinarily long, that 5/8" one won't work. It's like 1", here I'll find the parts I ended up using from Amazon and post them below for anyone who wants to do it. I had to dremel out the inside of the tang to get it to fit on the new lock.

Backbox: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HR022/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title
Oh yeah, it's 1/-1/8

Coin door: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HR0267Q/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title

I don't remember reading anything about this in the beta release but I sure hope the Bayou and The Depths gets used more. Those two are wasted.

EDIT - all good.

Why do my WOZ flippers feel so different to POTC? In fact, the playfield feels much more flat on WOZ. I'm sure I should check pitch, but is it me or are they different?

I can't quite put in to words what the difference is except that the WOZ ones feel soft, yet quick to snap and hit the ball. The ball bounces softly against them, as well as the slings, and its more of a "lope" around the playfield versus pirates even with the slings turned all the way down the flipper area feels so "fast" and "hard" in terms of forgiveness in the ball bouncing off stuff. Both games have titan rubbers of about the same age.

I assume there is probably a coil difference in the flippers since POTC has some very steep ramps close in versus WOZ with very long gradual shots. Are the slings somehow different? I would think the mechs are off the shelf and would assume JJP has no reason to change them so are the coils or geometry different somehow? Or is the code preventing the coils from going down low enough on POTC to get closer to how they are on WOZ?

It's funny how many shots on WOZ are almost mirrored on POTC. Tortuga/throne, Crystal ball/depths, VUK to upper playfield with flippers. I was pleasantly surprised since I've only been playing POTC for months and finally got some time on a very bare WOZ (so taken apart for mods, but enough stuff to almost play it). I thought I would have trouble with some of the shots and all the POTC time has me very quickly hitting those shots.

Speaking of which, while this is on my WOZ it's the same on POTC... the ball seems to hit the "gravity" door on the trough kickout (the hanging metal piece) fairly often and it has to be kicked out again. I turned up the coil and same thing, it looks like that is what is happening but maybe I'm not seeing it right. I don't see a way to adjust that hanging piece, I believe the prior owner had taped it back because of this. Any suggestions?

It’s not just you, WOZ is definitely floaty. So is Hobbit. That’s one of the reasons I initially held off on buying POTC. Not sure why they feel so different, but assume it has to be coil strength and/or settings.

Have you tried turning the kick-out power down to prevent issues with the ball gate? Maybe the high power is causing it to bounce around and interfere with the kick-out. If that doesn’t work, you can try buying another on Pinballlife or just remove.

This worked for my Hobbit.

Thanks, I'll try the lower power. It's weird because never had that issue on POTC. It almost looks like the one on WOZ hangs over just a bit more.

harryhoudini
Could your balls be magnetized causing the issue with your kickout? I’ve had same issue from magnetized balls.
(Yes, Pinballs)

I should check, I haven't in a while. Probably time for new balls. Oh and I should put some new pinballs in my games.

Finally got around to making a Proper RUM Barrel for the flasher domes. Gotta make some tweaks and clean er up.

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the STL file is yours?

Nice! I am working on some replacements that would keep the flasher functional in terms of spraying the light across the playfield. I was missing that when they were covered up.

Yes, I modeled it? I'll share it on ThingVerse as soon as I'm done.

Hey, folks, I have gotten quite a few questions about the RUM Barrel flasher dome cover. If you are interested in buying one, if you don't have a 3D printer I am going to make a run of about 20 of them. I also can offer two different colors (a more wood looking tan, and the dark brown seen in the photo above)

If there is enough interest I will create a separate thread for it, to not bloat this one.

The Barrel will most likely be 25.00 shipped to you.

Either PM me or just reply to this post with interest. Cheers.

Been working on spicing up my SE. I love this game! I can’t stop playing it. Definitely a keeper!

where did you get the CE backglass from? i have been told multiple times that you need a valid CE serial to get ANYTHING CE related (i too had some customers that wanted the ce backglass).

A previous CE owner had a imperfection in his glass and got a replacement.

ah, sweet deal.

I tried ordering the pop bumper spinning toy..... DENIED!!
Not sure why they won’t sell.

My take: To preserve LE/CE value. If those parts were available to anyone it would incentivize SE purchases over LE/CE.

Why would JJP care? They don’t have any to sell. Unless they are planing on putting them back on the line

Would set a bad precedent for future machines. People would buy more standards instead of LE/CE thinking they can probably get the LE/CE stuff later and save money.

Businesses have to make decisions based on the good of the business as a whole. One-off decisions that go against their model aren’t a good idea for the business.

If the sum of all optional additional parts for the SE that are standard on the LE/CE are equal or greater than just buying an LE why not? An a la cart type entry level pin could be an interesting idea.

You’d likely be reducing profit while increasing costs. Increased costs would come from additional inventory management and labor on custom assembly for each machine, as well as increased risk of return/warranty issues from that custom/non-standardized assembly work.

Profit reduces because instead of making X% on the full LE/CE package you’re making X minus some percentage on every machine that doesn’t order all the options.

It would be customer friendly, but not as profitable so there’s a choice to be made there on how the business wants/needs to operate.

Ehhh, I think you over complicating it. People install all kind of crazy shit on their machines anyhow and as we’ve found out there really isn’t much of a warranty anyhow.

They wouldn’t need to change the way they do things on the line at all would be all after delivery but if a SE customer wants the spinning pirate jack up the price and sell it, doesn’t require extra inventory.

I think the reality of the situation is a lot simpler when you look at the buyers.

CE buyers: they want it all, and price is not hugely material.
SE buyers: they want in at the lowest possible cost

That leaves LE buyers in the middle. When I made my original LE purchase, I looked at all the upgrades over the SE and decided it was easily worth the $1000 delta from SE. Parting those things out piecemeal would have cost more, so there's no point.

don't forget, a good portion of the CE buyers always want something that no one else will have. this is why you can not get the ce exclusive parts (or le exclusive for Stern). Hell, even the Rob Zombie LE backglass was exclusive for Spooky.

I have my original one I could possibly part with. We also have the custom made ones for sale.

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very simple why JJP won't sell CE - it's something collectors value b/c not everyone has it. If JJP were to sell that afterwards, the next CE pin would suffer.

I also own Houdini and LOVE the early 1900s feel of the animations. AP did a great job of keeping the theme consistent while incorporating in modern tech. I love the game.

You meant early 1990's feel, right?

Hmmm ... trying to remember how I got this translite. Not a backglass persey. Now it's bugging me. I don't even have the game. It's cool though. Hehe.

Anyway, I like the Pirates LE backglass better than the CE.

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Agreed. LE backglass all day over the CE. I do like the CE pf better though.

I like the CE Backglass better. There are enough sculls and cross bones on the game

colors don't match. That green is CE across the board. On LE, it's not there and doesn't flow.

Yeah we all have an opinion
I tied it all together with the green apron

hey - you're the green machine! Enough said ; )

True! I like green

Still looking for DILE? Are you not looking for NIB?

So I'm not one to keep games for years so I end up moving in and out a lot. I have rollers, 1 man team but I really have an appreciation for how heavy these games are. I've moved Alien, WoZ, Hobbit, DI, Wonka and even bigger B/Ws like TZ, IJTP etc but moving in this JJP Pirates - holy shit. Thing is a beast. Not sure what the true weight is but it tops my list of heavy machines.

I move em all alone. I feel your pain. But I’m a big person and other people slow me down

It "felt" like hobbit was heavier, a toss up between hobbit and pirates. My TZ was no where near the weight of either one.

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hmm ... a quick google gets me the following. They're not jjp links so only indicative numbers I suppose.

hobbit 351 pounds - https://primetimeamusements.com/product/the-hobbit-limited-edition-pinball-machine/
pirates 350 pounds - https://www.hemispheresamusements.com/new-game-pirates-of-the-carribbean.php
tz 250 pounds - https://www.thepinballcompany.com/product/twilight-zone-pinball-machine/

There is no way that TZ is 250 pounds... unless I have been wrong all these years. I thought that was average weight for a standard body game, pre-Stern cost cutting.

Oh nice! You found your Pirates!

And yeah, that seems heavier than Hobbit, slightly. What type of hand truck do you use?

Me! haha - I put rollers underneath the legs. No hand truck.

Not to get off topic, but the Harbor Freight lift project is a game changer. That plus Escalera and your pinball life is sorted out.

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Could you shoot me the parts you used to get your handle to do that? I've got the same cart and have been investigating how to more effectively use the handle without just taking it out and dragging it along