Quoted from GnarLee:

In my midnight cookie haze I was thinking how people always compare Stern to JJP when it comes to updates. The arguement is it sometimes takes stern a while to update code and even sometimes it takes a while before people think the code is "acceptable". I am going to argue that Stern comes out 4-5 machines a year and while it does take a while sometimes they literallly are doing 5x (prolly more) the work and still manage to get updates out for their machines. Wasnt jjp supposed to have 2 machines release this year? I kinda remember ther being an arguement about how they were doing 2 machines this year and thats why code updates were coming slow. Where is this second machine that "delay" finishing up potc code. Next someone will argue the Keith had a heart attack. Well he looked pretty good at the expo a couple months ago and I have known people that have had heart attacks and been fine a week later (not saying this is his situation). Wonka has had 19 updates this year from "first code" to current in 9 months. Potc has had 5 in 18 months. If you look at release dates and the amount of changes you can tell that the coding can be done in a timely manner if they would put ANY effort into finishing it up. Must be nice to work for a "good ole boys" company where you get paid to sit on your ass and do nothing. Pretty sure I will never buy another jjp machine due to horrible customer service. I have a 10k half finished machine. Yes I said half finished as if your able to get though 25 chapters there is nothing to do in the game (if I remember right you lose alot of the callouts at this point also).

Quoted from EaglePin:

On the Project Pinball stream last Friday one of the JJP guys mentioned they now have a good size software team (his description, not mine) of 6 people now. Seems like none of them have been given POTC update as a priority item in awhile.

Quoted from Vans:

Where is the best place to get plastic protector for slings? Also what do you recommend for colours as the GI changes colours?

Quoted from Vans:

Where is the best place to get plastic protector for slings? Also what do you recommend for colours as the GI changes colours?

Quoted from EaglePin:

On the Project Pinball stream last Friday one of the JJP guys mentioned they now have a good size software team (his description, not mine) of 6 people now. Seems like none of them have been given POTC update as a priority item in awhile.

Quoted from PtownPin:

They took so long to release POTC that they really developed the code, but its pretty disappointing that they don't seem to want to finish the game....its a sign that JJP is running on fumes with a lot of pressure to finally make $ and not allocate resources to support old games.

Quoted from zaphX:

Anyone bitching that the final wizard mode isn't in yet needs to provide footage of them clearing all 5 existing wizard modes in one game.
People just like to find things to complain about.
JJP is not going to blow this off. They still release Woz and Dialed in updates FFS.

Quoted from zaphX:

Anyone bitching that the final wizard mode isn't in yet needs to provide footage of them clearing all 5 existing wizard modes in one game.
People just like to find things to complain about.
JJP is not going to blow this off. They still release Woz and Dialed in updates FFS.

Quoted from EaglePin:

I think it's fine for anyone to state their opinion on the code updates & lack of communication from JJP whether they're annoyed by it or not, but nobody should be okay saying someone needs to show proof of anything to anyone to get a feature that was described in the marketing material and is still not in the game over a year later with no communication from JJP about an expected timeframe for it getting done.
I don't think this is nitpicking or searching for something to complain about. I think any complaining about a lack of code updates is pretty reasonable at this point, and JJP has earned a bit of criticism by not delivering what they said when they said they would and by not communicating about it. The more time passes the less likely the code is to get done as other business priorities and issues arise. Other projects will take priority or they'll have personnel turnover, all of which will continually push the POTC code timeline back further. They said the game code would be rules complete at launch and it wasn't. It's now over a year later and JJP is still not even discussing a timeline. They posted a list of new character traits for the new code in April and now we're at the end of December with only silence since then. I think it's fair for that to annoy some people.
For anyone who doesn't think it's a big deal, that's absolutely fine but it doesn't entitle you to trivialize or minimize the way someone else is feeling about it. There's no need police people's criticisms of JJP on this. Why should it bother you that anyone is aggravated about the lack of code updates? What stake do you have in how they feel? I don't care that you weren't bothered by chipping playfields and that you aren't bothered by the lack of code updates. I felt no need to post anything in reply criticizing your opinions on those things or anything else. I don't see why you still very often feel the need to try to dismiss other people's thoughts on those things though.

Quoted from Izzy24:

“Wonka has had 19 updates this year from first code to current in 9 months. Potc has had 5 in 18 months.”
There is no defense of this, it’s ridiculous and people should be pissed. The more time goes by, the less priority it will be for them (as seen). It’s a shame because the priority should increase with age not decrease.

Quoted from EaglePin:

I think it's fine for anyone to state their opinion on the code updates & lack of communication from JJP whether they're annoyed by it or not, but nobody should be okay saying someone needs to show proof of anything to anyone to get a feature that was described in the marketing material and is still not in the game over a year later with no communication from JJP about an expected timeframe for it getting done.
I don't think this is nitpicking or searching for something to complain about. I think any complaining about a lack of code updates is pretty reasonable at this point, and JJP has earned a bit of criticism by not delivering what they said when they said they would and by not communicating about it. The more time passes the less likely the code is to get done as other business priorities and issues arise. Other projects will take priority or they'll have personnel turnover, all of which will continually push the POTC code timeline back further. They said the game code would be rules complete at launch and it wasn't. It's now over a year later and JJP is still not even discussing a timeline. They posted a list of new character traits for the new code in April and now we're at the end of December with only silence since then. I think it's fair for that to annoy some people.
For anyone who doesn't think it's a big deal, that's absolutely fine but it doesn't entitle you to trivialize or minimize the way someone else is feeling about it. There's no need police people's criticisms of JJP on this. Why should it bother you that anyone is aggravated about the lack of code updates? What stake do you have in how they feel? I don't care that you weren't bothered by chipping playfields and that you aren't bothered by the lack of code updates. I felt no need to post anything in reply criticizing your opinions on those things or anything else. I don't see why you still very often feel the need to try to dismiss other people's thoughts on those things though.

Quoted from PinballTilt:

Because if the criticism becomes rampant, the value of their game will suffer. That's my guess.

Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Here’s hoping that you were actually responding to the previous comment I quoted, and not my post

Quoted from EaglePin:

Whoops! Sorry, I meant to quote ZaphX's post and not yours. I just edited my post above to put the correct quote in. Sorry about that.

Quoted from Vans:

Are those plastic protectors really needed off Mezel mods? Also has anyone installed the sound dampener for the spinning disk?

Quoted from Vans:

Also has anyone installed the sound dampener for the spinning disk?

Quoted from EaglePin:

I don't see why you still very often feel the need to try to dismiss other people's thoughts on those things though.

Quoted from zaphX:

Bitching about a thing you can't get to anyway is just bitching to have something to bitch about. That's why.
I get disgusted with the pitchfork brigades on this site.

Quoted from gliebig:

I'm more displeased that I put in three tickets and never got a response despite multiple emails for each.
Spooky #3 here I come.

Quoted from Vans:

Are those plastic protectors really needed off Mezel mods? Also has anyone installed the sound dampener for the spinning disk?

Quoted from EaglePin:

I think it's fine for anyone to state their opinion on the code updates & lack of communication from JJP whether they're annoyed by it or not, but nobody should be okay saying someone needs to show proof of anything to anyone to get a feature that was described in the marketing material and is still not in the game over a year later with no communication from JJP about an expected timeframe for it getting done.

Quoted from zaphX:

Anyone bitching that the final wizard mode isn't in yet needs to provide footage of them clearing all 5 existing wizard modes in one game.
People just like to find things to complain about.
JJP is not going to blow this off. They still release Woz and Dialed in updates FFS.

Quoted from Yelobird:

Are we including the 20 plus updates this game got while being sequestered for 13 months waiting for approval release going back to code .6? For me personally I would rather Keith take his time and when the inspiration comes to write the final chapter he will do it in his proven magical way. Would hate to see this incredible game rushed to say 1.0 because he just wanted to hear the complaints stop. (Final wizard mode, picture of ship, you win, done! Next game lol). I have plenty of time and haven’t passed 3 modes personally.

Quoted from zaphX:

Bitching about a thing you can't get to anyway is just bitching to have something to bitch about. That's why.
I get disgusted with the pitchfork brigades on this site.

Quoted from Vans:

Are those plastic protectors really needed off Mezel mods? Also has anyone installed the sound dampener for the spinning disk?

Quoted from PinballTilt:

Because if the criticism becomes rampant, the value of their game will suffer. That's my guess.

Quoted from GnarLee:

I will gladly give you this "proof" you require as soon as you send me the necessary equipment to do so.

There is 0 mention of any of these "alleged" updates on the changelog. If you mean there was 20 updates before .90 which is the first update mentioned on changelog then I would like to argue there was 20 updates for wonka and all the other machines as well before their first posted update. These were more than likely updates to just get machines playable and or playing around with design. If we have to wait for inspiration just ask game of thrones fans how thats going.

And I get disgusted with fanboys. What/When would be a good time to bitch? When something happens and JJP has to shut down? Would that be a good time?
Any company can shut down at any time for any reason it is 1 mistake and good lawsuit away.

Pirates plastics have been pretty good in my experience. The ones I have had issues with is the slingshot plastics. They are not high enough to avoid rubbing on a playfield post under them. Recommend adding a plastic washer under thos plastics to raise them a hair and prevent rubbing.

Quoted from KornFreak28:

Trying to put my ramp back in but there is this huge gap between the flap and the wood. There is no way to screw it down! Am I missing something here?[quoted image]

Quoted from EaglePin:

Couldn’t tell from your picture, but I took some shots of mine to see if they can help you figure it out. Let me know if you need any different angles of it.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Quoted from KornFreak28:

Basically, after Screwing down the the screw on the top, there is a HUGE gap between the ramp and the playfield here where 2 screws are at[quoted image]

Quoted from KornFreak28:

Basically, after Screwing down the the screw on the top, there is a HUGE gap between the ramp and the playfield here where 2 screws are at[quoted image]

Quoted from KornFreak28:

Trying to put my ramp back in but there is this huge gap between the flap and the wood. There is no way to screw it down! Am I missing something here?[quoted image]

Quoted from Yelobird:

Looks fairly normal to me? The blue steel flap is supposed to act like a transitional bridge from the plastic ramp to Playfield.

Quoted from KornFreak28:

Ok (so I don’t quote all 3 responses) Are you guys saying that the screws are not supposed to go all the way in? Can one of you please take a picture of these screws but from the side to see how much thread is sticking out?

Quoted from EaglePin:

I just snapped a couple more pictures of mine. You can see threads on my screws under the ramp (circled in the picture). Also, I took another of the wood screws and the transfer. The wood screws on mine aren’t holding the transfer flap, it looks like they’re only holding the ramp in place. Hope this helps.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Quoted from KornFreak28:

The screw does not even come close to the playfield[quoted image]

Quoted from KornFreak28:

Thanks! So the threads are somewhat visible? Sorry can’t tell from the pic

Quoted from KornFreak28:

If I unscrew the top screw and align the bottom flap screws with the holes, the top screw does not line up with the hex spacer.

Quoted from EaglePin:

From that picture of yours it looks like your screw is farther back than mine. Mine is in front of the black line and clear wood line. Here’s another pic. You can see my screw is just inside that rectangle area. I’d think there should be screw holes from where yours were before. Can you line up with them?[quoted image]