NP! I though taking the BP out and putting back in was a cinch with LTG's post notes, and vids on Youtube. I had to due to installing the Cliffs into the MAP hole.

Yeah, it wasn't nearly as bad as I anticipated. I will do it again soon, but I want to play it a bit first.

Yep, exact same here. Was yours built after the CEs (after last Christmas)?

Did you remove the subway?

Wondering how the ball got here under the BP? Any ideas?

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Does the gap between the VUK and the BP look pretty normal? Ball can’t make it up....

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Most likely rolled under the BP and then through the hole in the playfield under the BP that the BP wiring goes through.

Have you tried increasing power to the VUK to see if that gets it up there?

No need to. Everything collects in one corner the way the playfield slopes to the back of the trough.

Sorry but how did it get stuck there? I just don’t see it. Sorry, I’m pretty new at this machine

I know exactly why now. When the VUK tries (and fails) 2 times to make it up to the BP the ball somehow gets stuck there.

BP doesn’t seem to be blocking the ball’s path

Did you move the bp so that it’s closer to the clear ramp?

I would have thought there wouldn’t be enough space for the ball to fall through after getting kicked up and then falling back on to the one way gate.

Yeah it’s closer now. I just pulled the BP and it moved. There’s still a gap but now the ball rolls freely to the clear ramp. When I hit the port royal shot, I immediately looked at the VUK, The ball is not hitting the BP at all.

Not sure why the VUK fails to push the ball up though. I don’t have a manual with me (would love to buy one) but I’ll try increasing the power to it.

Removing the tnut via the subway isn't really that difficult, and you can address it directly. Took maybe 90 minutes total for me.

There's no buying a manual, as far as I know.

http://marketing.jerseyjackpinball.com/potc/POTC_Manual%202_0%20November%202018.pdf

Maybe we could do a group buy on getting them printed and bound? Anyone else want one?

F yeah! Count me in!

Crazy expensive to print, believe it or not.... Especially in color.

Oh, I believe it. Hence the group buy. I also have a color printer that duplexes so...

Low quantity (100? Less?), color, with media mail shipping? Probably $50 or more for almost 400 page hardcover manual that would be better than the color copies Fedex office, etc crank out. Books are relatively cheap if you can print in large quantities. The setup is the expensive part. Once you're running the book itself is the cheap part.

If you could get like 300-400 on board, it could be do-able in high quality, but it'd be hard to get that many together.

It may just be the angle of this pic, but can the gate on the VUK move fully? It almost looks like it would hit the BP. If your BP was too far back, hence the gap in the front you had, then maybe it is contacting the gate. Although I think for it to dump out it would likely be passing the gate. I think the game might compensate on the 3rd kick in a row by adding more power. So maybe on the 3rd kick it makes it past the gate but not enough and that is what dumps it back down. Why it ends up on top of the plastic there doesn't make sense. But again, if your BP is weird in alignment or something is broken all bets are off.

I remember looking into this months ago, and Staples was the cheapest at I think $57 for black and white. Color is crazy pricey.

JJP probably wouldn't like me selling it. So if we get 25 orders we can split the cost at like $16/piece plus shipping to your location. Or if you want to order direct it's $39 with free shipping.

bookbaby.com

Then an update comes and the manual gets updated.

I have the physical manuals for dialed-in and hobbit they are huuuuge. There is no nice place in the cabinet to put them really.

I have the full WOZ manual, I like it.

Looks like if we can get 25 people together we can get it printed and shipped to one person for $50/ea at bookbaby.com. That's at 9x12", so a bit smaller than the real thing but probably big enough. Otherwise I am betting you have to print 11x17 and trim because it's an odd size. Full color, perfect bound. No option for spiral bound. Maybe just hole punched and in a folder so you can replace pages later?

i believe i have some printed pirates manuals, but i will have to check. give me a couple hours. they would be the same costs as the other JJP manuals. $100 plus shipping.

JJP printed some extras and sold them through at least one disty, Eric's brother, for $100 each. They came with extra pages/photos in the back that aren't in the PDF manual of the making of the game. I've got one on my shelf. Expensive, but I figured it would be a nice collectible, and amongst pinheads a neat conversation item.

Speak of the devil, see above∆∆
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Will the game function without the BP hooked up? I want to see what the hell is going on with the VUK and getting the ship out of the way would help a great deal. I want to hit the port royal shot without the BP on the playfield. Possible?

I wouldn't want to find out. I would suggest setting it on a pillow inside the cabinet with it hooked up

Yea. It will report some errors.

Humm... now print my own crappy one for 1/2 that or get the nice one to match my WOZ.

Waiting...

I'm in. I've already printed the POTC Game Play Flow Chart in LARGE format and had it laminated. Kinko's/FedEx wouldn't do it due to the Disney logo.
So my local small town printer did it gladly. : )

My hand is raised. Count me in if you have some to sell.
Murphy

Mine too! I sent a PM this morning....

How in the HELL do I get to this nut? I’m about to start the removal of the BP VUK but I just don’t see how to get to this nut. The damn wire form in on the way big time!

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1/4" socket with long extension or maybe a nut driver. Or maybe carefully with pliers from under the ramp if you don't have one.

I would love to have a printed manual!

Dang! I thought about that but the bumper cap and ramp get in the way. Do I really have to remove or loosen the clear ramp to remove the ship if I remove the VUK? I would rather not mess with that ramp unless it’s totally necessary.

Also, Does the PF rests it’s weight on these wire forms? Not sure if I should trust them or not. Sorry guys, first JJP here

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LTG : )

Nevermind, found an easier way

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Yeah, under the ramp

I don't think you have to remove the BP ramp if you do the VUK. I may have said that, I may be wrong. Mine's been off for a while so I forget.

You could put a towel over the backbox to help cushion it. I've never had an issue.

Thanks Scott! How many wires in total below to the ship? Don’t wanna mess this up

Btw, I think I know why the ball can’t make it up the VUK (power is all the way up) The gate is grinding the VUK’s walls.
Definitely not moving freely. We’ll take a closer look once I get it out

I don't recall. But the all come out the same hole. Just trace them to each point. Most come apart right there, some go to lighting boards. The lighting board ones should be color coded, if not make sure you mark them. Take a pic before you remove them.

Ah yeah, bend the wireform a bit wherever it is hitting.

I took the Pearl off without touching anything on the ramp and only removing the VUK.

Here's a link to a post with good information on removing the Pearl. I followed the recommendation to using a sharpie to number each side of the connections so it's easier to identify which ones go back together.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jjp-pirates-of-the-caribbean-official-owners-and-fan-club/page/65#post-4814032

Thanks guys! Having trouble removing the shooter lane wire form. When I try loosening this nut, the whole post (with T-nut) gets loose. The post, of course, can’t be removed since there’s stuff blocking it. Did you guys hold the post with pliers or something?

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JJP should include a printed manual for all of us getting a new playfield, may come in handy at some point!

Unscrew the t-nut from the bottom (if it is that loose) and just pull the post out with the ramp, if you can. Then you can fix it off the game. I can't remember if you can get the rest of that plastic out without the ramp being out of the way.

I might be wrong, but I don't remember needing to remove the shooter lane wire form to get the Pearl & VUK off (assuming that's why you're looking to remove the shooter wire).