Have you played these games or are you just here to fall on your JJP sword? I had DI for years and loved it and our, Jaybird815 and I, friend had Wonka and SW which we played the shit out of and SW>>>> both of the JJPs in flow IMO and I don’t think speed is even debatable. Trust me, Jay is no SW apologist which goes to show that it’s ok to like certain aspects of games you don’t love. It’s perfectly ok to say that a Steve Ritchie game is faster and has more flow than a Pat Lawlor game. I would imagine Pat himself would agree,

We may disagree here on occasion but as a lifelong Weber kettle guy, cheers! The only thing better than a a Weber kettle grill is TWO Weber kettle grills. And that JJP CE brass kettle you have is absolutely kick ass and I want one now.

That’s oddly specific haha