JJP GNR list of build dates with and without issues.

Title says it all.
PM me you info and we can add it to this list to see if a pattern comes to light.

Title says it all.
PM me you info and we can add it to this list to see if a pattern comes to light.
Whos first?
Name Build date Issues
Arron ? yes
Will W. ? Yes via FB
Hector C. ? No via FB
Jamie G. ? No via FB
Matthew O. ? yes
Neil J McR. ? yes
Dan DeV. 10/20 yes 500 plays
Brkuk 10/20 yes pooling around post
VALIS666 11/20 no issues at how many plays?
PoMC 12/20 no issues
Dallas_Pin 1/21 yes
Skyemont 1/21 yes
Trojanlaw 1/21 no
gritty 2/21 no
adrock 2/21 yes
Kkoss24 4/21 no issues at how many plays?
Chad H. ? no issues 750 plays

sevenrites 6/21 no
websherpa 6/21 no
pinballpetefromSD 7/21 no

Post last edited 1 year ago.

#2 1 year ago

PGR

VALIS666

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3y 106K 967 222

LE build date 11/20, no issues.

edit: 140 plays. I just bought it used last week.

#3 1 year ago

KOS

Kkoss24

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Crown Point, IN

3y 95,050 4,565 4 15

OP
Quoted from PinBallPeteFromSD:
Title says it all.
PM me you info and we can add it to this list to see if a pattern comes to light.
Whos first?

No issues

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#4 1 year ago

ACE

Dallas_Pin

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5y 98,400 1,112

Build date 1/2021 - issues

#5 1 year ago

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nicoy3k

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Acton, MA

2y 61,550 2,978 1 14

Honestly unless I see closeup shots of every post I am not buying the no issues camp. It’s possible that these folks don’t have any chipping but I bet I could find pooling around a post or two if went over with a fine tooth comb. There is a reason JJP ships these games with 3/4 inch plastic washers in the slings...

#6 1 year ago

WIL

Shabazz18

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Arlington, TX

6y 28,300 60 12

Quoted from nicoy3k:
Honestly unless I see closeup shots of every post I am not buying the no issues camp. It’s possible that these folks don’t have any chipping but I bet I could find pooling around a post or two if went over with a fine tooth comb. There is a reason JJP ships these games with 3/4 inch plastic washers in the slings...

That's what I was thinking. Is a bit subjective outside of obvious tearing.

#7 1 year ago

JRM

NightTrain

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11y 105K 5,036 1

Quoted from nicoy3k:
Honestly unless I see closeup shots of every post I am not buying the no issues camp. It’s possible that these folks don’t have any chipping but I bet I could find pooling around a post or two if went over with a fine tooth comb. There is a reason JJP ships these games with 3/4 inch plastic washers in the slings...

We’ve already seen people post pics of their game saying it’s perfect. Then you look at the pics and see obvious pooling.

#8 1 year ago

Skyemont

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11y 110K 5,876 1

Build Date: 01/21
Serial no. #59
Model: CE

Yes I have problems. I have counted about 7 post so far. Some minor but a few are major.
I have about 200 plays.

#9 1 year ago

F U

PoMC

Pinside member

9y 106K 7,861 3

SE model
Build date Dec 2020
Games started 594
Games played 533
Balls played 1901

No issues at all. Thorough inspection performed last week when I installed the Cliffy set.

#10 1 year ago

WOZ

PanzerFreak

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13y 122K 11,748 16

Thanks for posting this, hope the latest build games are better.

#11 1 year ago

Skyemont

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11y 110K 5,876 1

OP add a simple pole. Like to see the %.

#12 1 year ago

FKU

PinBallPeteFromSD

Pinside member

Quoted from Skyemont:
OP add a simple pole. Like to see the %.

Great idea, added.

#13 1 year ago

STV

Buffaloman

Pinside member

Vancouver, BC

1y 19,900 11 2

Mine has issues. Where do you find the build date?

#14 1 year ago

COS

cosmokramer

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9y 112K 8,268

Im just here to troll...

#15 1 year ago

PGR

VALIS666

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3y 106K 967 222

Quoted from nicoy3k:
Honestly unless I see closeup shots of every post I am not buying the no issues camp.

I have some pooling and a tiny chip out of my Wonka (along with a whole host of other issues that had out of box). None with my GnR, at least as well as my middle aged eyes can see. You're down the road. Grab a 12 pack and come see for yourself.

#16 1 year ago

DAN

2000_Alum

Pinside member

Millbrae, CA

10y 58,300 275 8

... and "don't even own one just here to troll" takes the early lead in the poll. Dont change pinside! I love this place

#17 1 year ago

QVQ

87shaner

Inactive member

Boise, ID

2y 18,150 11 2

I thought I had no issues but see some peeling on new inspect.
post at top rose lanes.
Post at left flipper lane.

CE,
serial # 22.
build ~1/21.

189 games.

I guess I will stop playing for a while until I get the washers installed...
87'

#18 1 year ago

JAW

jawjaw

Pinside member

Humble, TX

8y 84,550 5,319 6

As soon as you see a few good playfields, buy buy buy! What could go wrong?

#19 1 year ago

???

greeneye

Pinside member

Neabsco, VA

4y 54,050 316 3 7

2/21 SE no issues although I replaced the metal washers with silicone. Except the top right post directly to the left of the top right bumper.

Anyone else had issues with this post? It’s so damn tight

#20 1 year ago

VNQ

Ashram56

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2y 49,300 1,127

Quoted from greeneye:
2/21 SE no issues although I replaced the metal washers with silicone. Except the top right post directly to the left of the top right bumper.
Anyone else had issues with this post? It’s so damn tight

Did you use Titan silicon ring ? They state it's for plastic only, so I'm curious

On another note, I believe it would be more practical to get a good idea of the scope of the problem and the impact it would have overtime is to maintain a google spreadsheet.

One could have for ex a simple spreadsheet with the following data:

- Owner alias
- Pinball identification (LE/CE number - not sure if the standard have a Serial number)
- Build date
- Number of plays
- Has defect (Yes/No answer)
- Implemented solution (mylar washers, PETG washer, carbon fiber, etc) if applicable
- Number of plays since solution implemented
- Results (ie pooling stabilized, increased, decreased)

That way we would obtain:
- a good idea of the actual percentage of affected owners
- whether the implemented solutions are effective

For maintenance purpose it could be open to write to anyone (but that's prone to error and/or malicious intent), or maintained by a few admins.

Otherwise maybe Pinside has an option to use our identifiers and maintain such a spreadsheet (preferred option)

#21 1 year ago

CHK

thechakapakuni

Inactive member

2y 61,300 2,093 30

GNR with No Chipping, Pooling, works perfect

Playfield date 1994 Data East GNR

#22 1 year ago

NRG

Nickson

Pinside member

Kitchener, ON

5y 44,300 183 14

Nick Greenen October 20th about 500 plays. No wear at all

#23 1 year ago

MAR

arcadem

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5y 87,300 551 11 16

LE with 5/21/2021 build date. No playfield issues. Added a full set of cliffy's and some Mylar washers for added insurance. Did have the usual other assembly problems like the right flipper coil stop not screwed in which let the coil fall from it's mount, the start switch and one led not connected, and the latch bar not locking properly. All good now.

#24 1 year ago

AFI

faceforward_007

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2y 33,650 14 11

How'd you fix the lockbar issue? Mines pretty tight, I gotta press down and wiggle it in, and the latch barely catches

Quoted from arcadem:
LE with 5/21/2021 build date. No playfield issues. Added a full set of cliffy's and some Mylar washers for added insurance. Did have the usual other assembly problems like the right flipper coil stop not screwed in which let the coil fall from it's mount, the start switch and one led not connected, and the latch bar not locking properly. All good now.

#25 1 year ago

DRM

iceman44

Pinside+ Pro!

Boerne, TX

12y 155K 24,911 25 42

01/21. All good thus far

#26 1 year ago

DAN

2000_Alum

Pinside member

Millbrae, CA

10y 58,300 275 8

Quoted from faceforward_007:
How'd you fix the lockbar issue? Mines pretty tight, I gotta press down and wiggle it in, and the latch barely catches

Adjust the brass screws on the lock bar receiver

-1

#27 1 year ago

MCB

EricHadley

Inactive member

7y 110K 4,839

Mine is perfect. I canceled it.

#28 1 year ago

DRM

iceman44

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Boerne, TX

12y 155K 24,911 25 42

Quoted from EricHadley:
Mine is perfect. I canceled it.

Lol.

You sold off your whole collection right Wacky?

#29 1 year ago

MCB

EricHadley

Inactive member

7y 110K 4,839

Quoted from iceman44:
Lol.
You sold off your whole collection right Wacky?

Think about it often………

#30 1 year ago

DRM

iceman44

Pinside+ Pro!

Boerne, TX

12y 155K 24,911 25 42

Quoted from EricHadley:
Think about it often………

Me too but we love it too much!

#31 1 year ago

AFI

faceforward_007

Pinside+ Frequent

2y 33,650 14 11

Quoted from 2000_Alum:
Adjust the brass screws on the lock bar receiver

Awesome, thank you! I was wondering what those were for

#32 1 year ago

KOS

Kkoss24

Pinside+ Frequent

Crown Point, IN

3y 95,050 4,565 4 15

Have not looked at total plays but they’re low .I’m in a whatever happens mode .I’m laying down modcouples mylar washers and will deal with whatever comes along .This pin is too much fun to go into panic mode .That being said I feel for those with serious issues but I’d imagine you’ll be set straight eventually .Good luck to all .

1 week later

#33 1 year ago

Trojanlaw

Pinside+ Frequent

1y 58,800 107 1 14

01/21 Build
CE
#144
200 plays
Playfield is perfect.

#34 1 year ago

VES

Vespula

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2y 70,300 2,368 2 1

Quoted from Trojanlaw:
01/21 Build
CE
#144
200 plays
Playfield is perfect.

Oh my.. Nashville landed a CE ?!

#35 1 year ago

666

adrock

Pinside member

3y 43,550 312

Feb 2021 build
CE#299
Pooling and slight tearing at the usual posts.
128 plays

JJP is sending me washers

#36 1 year ago

ZZZ

sevenrites

Pinballer

8y 122K 1,942

June 2021 LE build, no issues out of the box at all, turned it on and started playing as is. Still no issues.

May 21, 2021 playfield stamp.

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#37 1 year ago

KER

Kerry_Richard

Pinside member

Danville, CA

11y 76,900 2,859

following...

#38 1 year ago

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Rasslinmoron

Pinside member

Birmingham, AL

7y 39,300 48 7 21

Wooooooooooo! By the way boys I won the World Heavyweight wrestling championship 16 times......wooooooooooo! Natcha boy!

1 week later

#39 1 year ago

WEB

websherpa

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Hamilton, ON

10y 30,050 46

Quoted from sevenrites:
June 2021 LE build, no issues out of the box at all, turned it on and started playing as is. Still no issues.
May 21, 2021 playfield stamp.
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This is my build date (received last week) and no issues other than it needing to self calibrate (and balls get stuck a lot). Playing as is too. I will have to check out the playfield stamp date (didn't know it had one!)

#40 1 year ago

ZZZ

sevenrites

Pinballer

8y 122K 1,942

Quoted from websherpa:
I will have to check out the playfield stamp date (didn't know it had one!)

It’s usually on the edge of the playfield that’s under the back box. Difficult to get to but it’s doable if you slide the playfield out to the furthest service position.

I am suspicious but haven’t yet been able to confirm, that the clear coat might be harder on playfields stamped as of May 2021.

#41 1 year ago

DAV

Gritty

Pinside member

Cinnaminson, NJ

12y 97,350 597 81 1

CE Owner, 2/21 build, 183 plays, no issues yet. Installed playfield protector day 1 and silicone washers from Pinball Life.

#42 1 year ago

VES

Vespula

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2y 70,300 2,368 2 1

Quoted from Gritty:
CE Owner, 2/21 build, 183 plays, no issues yet. Installed playfield protector day 1 and silicone washers from Pinball Life.

Would love to see a pic of your playfield with the protector installed.

2 weeks later

#43 1 year ago

CHK

thechakapakuni

Inactive member

2y 61,300 2,093 30

So what’s the latest Playfield stamp dates? Are we seeing June/July 2021 stamps yet?

2 months later

#44 1 year ago

FKU

PinBallPeteFromSD

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OP
Quoted from PinBallPeteFromSD:
Title says it all.
PM me you info and we can add it to this list to see if a pattern comes to light.
Whos first?
Name Build date Issues
Arron ? yes
Will W. ? Yes via FB
Hector C. ? No via FB
Jamie G. ? No via FB
Matthew O. ? yes
Neil J McR. ? yes
Dan DeV. 10/20 yes 500 plays
Brkuk 10/20 yes pooling around post
VALIS666 11/20 no issues at how many plays?
PoMC 12/20 no issues
Dallas_Pin 1/21 yes
Skyemont 1/21 yes
Trojanlaw 1/21 no
gritty 2/21 no
adrock 2/21 yes
Kkoss24 4/21 no issues at how many plays?
Chad H. ? no issues 750 plays

sevenrites 6/21 no
websherpa 6/21 no
pinballpetefromSD 7/21 no

#45 1 year ago

FKU

PinBallPeteFromSD

Pinside member

Quoted from thechakapakuni:
So what’s the latest Playfield stamp dates? Are we seeing June/July 2021 stamps yet?

Seems like after March the playfields are a little more solid.

#46 1 year ago

CHK

thechakapakuni

Inactive member

2y 61,300 2,093 30

OP
Quoted from PinBallPeteFromSD:
Seems like after March the playfields are a little more solid.

Maybe not the playfields but instead the washer changes JJP did?

#47 1 year ago

JOE

JoeJet

Pinside member

Smithtown, NY

10y 73,550 2,406 5

Gorgeous game. Has all the fixes it appears. Will stop back in a few months or hundred plays with updates.

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8 months later

#48 8 months ago

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GoinPostal

Pinside member

<1y 9,400 15 1

OP
Quoted from PinBallPeteFromSD:
Title says it all.
PM me you info and we can add it to Title says it all.
PM me you info and we can add it to Whos first?
Name Arron ? Will W. ? Hector C. ? Jamie G. ? Matthew O. ? Neil J McR. ? Dan DeV. 10/20 Brkuk 10/20 VALIS666 11/20 PoMC 12/20 Dallas_Pin 1/21 Skyemont 1/21 Trojanlaw 1/21 gritty adrock 2/21 Kkoss24 4/21 Chad H. ? this list to see if a pattern comes to light.
this list to see if a pattern comes to light.
Build date Issues
yes
Yes via FB
No via FB
No via FB
yes
yes
yes 500 plays
yes pooling around post
no issues at how many plays?
no issues
yes
yes
no
2/21 no
yes
no issues at how many plays?
no issues 750 plays

sevenrites 6/21 no
websherpa 6/21 no
pinballpetefromSD 7/21 no

My gnr LE#1919 had not worked correctly since I unboxed it August 2021

#49 8 months ago

VES

Vespula

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