Is the noise coming through the speakers in the backbox or the soundbar? If the soundbar, do you have a Noise Isolator installed?

Do the upper speakers have the ground loop isolator on it? Some of them shipped without it...

I installed the noise isolator today but I can't seriously tell the difference and I'm into sound big time

It's only supposed to remove external hum and whine interference, not make the sound better.

Thanks for reaching out and I appreciate your offer.
Let me sit on it for a while.
Right not I am very happy with it the way it is.

The noise isolator is installed (came that way but I don't know if it covers the upper speakers and the sound bar or just the upper speakers) and I'm pretty sure it is related to the dimmer. When I unplug the new light and plug in the old strip the whine is gone. Also the whine is only apparent when the surround lights are dimmed. The noise it makes is a high frequency whine, which I would distinguish from the typical 60hz hum. The 60Hz hum is what I suspect the ground loop isolator is designed to remove.

Your question regarding the soundbar v. backbox is an interesting one. I will take a look see and report back.

GNR CE is now number 1 in the Pinside top 100. But there are some people who report all votes that simply put a 10 on that machine. Now I did also for the first time in my life put a 10 in. I think this machine has it all, at least for this moment. The art, the music, the playfield, the lightshow, I played the LE but could imagine the CE be just next level with art, colors, soundbar and lighting. Let's see if they report my A on this titel.

If any game deserves a 10 , this is it .
People always flag a new game that gets really high scores .
If anything happens to your score , just redo it in a month or two once the heat has died down .

I, as well as others, have installed an isolator to the back of the sound bar. Made a big improvement on mine. I was getting a lot of noise out of the sound bar, especially when the game was in attract mode. Probably so as there's no music playing to muffle the noise. For less then $10 I recommend getting one.

I know that is what it is suppose to do. sound is sound and I cant hear any difference in the back ground interference.

Simple 5V USB LED strip from Walmart - Monster makes a brand that is the perfect length. Tape/secure the LED strips to the monitor frame and plug into a USB port on the PC. My PC did not have a free USB port, so I connected a small USB hub to a port, plugged in the connector I unplugged from the PC and plugged in the USB LED strip.

Done and done. Really is the simplest and inexpensive mod to make yourself. Did it to my Wonka, Dialed In and GNR. They look great and you have a remote to change whatever color or effect you want.

All right..just got email from Jen CE shipping this week! Will post serial # when arrives..I was a very late order

Is the Noise Isolator something JJP provided or is this an after market product?

Aftermarket: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0171PQLB8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00

Thanks....

I just got my CE delivered today. What are you guys finding is the sweet spot for the playfield pitch for this game? (I apologize in advance if this has been answered elsewhere.) Thanks!

Just did this only I placed the ball further up on the metal guide. 100% fix, thanks for the heads up on this! Goes to right flipper every time.

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Mine plays well at 6.5 deg

I have mine at 6.8 degrees and it seems to play well.

6.8 and rolling like a champ

If you're a by-the-book guy (I am):

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Just FYI my bubble wasn't very accurate so I always use a digital level

If possible a picture of how you have it installed would be very helpful.

Mine is nearly at the 3rd line (probably in the 6.8 degree zone) and plays great.

CE is now, rightfully, in the #1 spot with an average rating of 9.404. There are 25 ratings and 21 that appear with comments. The average of those 21 is 9.885. That means the four without comments average 6.88. Maybe three are in the low 9s and someone gave it a zero. While I am surely biased, it would seem hard to believe four legitimate ratings could warrant a 6.88 average, and the lack of comments in those ratings does nothing to support them being genuine. Is there is a way to view no-comment ratings and to flag those which appear bogus?

Those are Stern fan boys

I appreciate all the responses about the playfield pitch. I've also found that the bubble levels can be wildly off. Really, the main reason that I ask is because during 4 of the 10 games I've played at this point, when I shoot the left "Travel" orbit, the ball is getting stuck somewhere back there. It's happened when it's a low power shot. When there is some power behind the shot is goes around fine. Wherever the ball is getting stuck at is also a pain because the machine can't clear it when it starts doing a ball search. Not sure if anyone has seen that, but I was just wanting to see if the easy fix of tilting the playfield more would solve it.

It’s super simple, just a headphone jack on each side, install it in-line at the topper.

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Thanks

Paid my balance due today and waiting on shipping notice.

I've missed out on the last 25+ pages in this thread so I'll be going through the Key Posts and pictures for any mechanical tweaks or hacks that the game needs.
If there's anything else noteworthy, quote links are appreciated as are key words that I can search.

Many thanks

Congrats!

You will be fine Mr68.... I got mine 3 weeks ago, been playing non stop each night since I got it(no matter what), and besides me, my wife abuses the game on weekends... FOR HOURS!!! !!!

.... and "0" mechanical issues with our game, not at all

Yep posted a 10 rating yesterday for this machine, now I already have 2 pinsiders reporting me. There is a group policing the ratings, anything with a 10 is reported even with my review/rationale included. So there are a few people in this hobby who really do not want GNR to be nr.1 Wonder why that is?

Great to see you're still enjoying it , and even better your wife is loving it
If I hassle my wife she will have a game but she never liked getaway , I hope once we get GNR , and she sees her head on TV , she will hassle me to play

You haven't been reported , some dicks "flagged " your rating because they want whatever game they like to be number one .
It would be like if Led Zeppelin got lots of 10's , everyone would know that's crap .
I " starred " a lot of scores that we're flagged by haters .
GNR is as close to perfection as you can get , so you'll be right .

If you want a flag a bogus rating , just click on the little flag on your right hand bottom corner and if you want to star a comment press the little star in the right hand corner .
Don't worry PeterG you've got more upvotes than downvotes .

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Bluetooth anyone had any luck post code update in getting it to work. For me it now sees the headset (and not just the blender in the kitchen) but still will not connect.

Not really worried, just annoyed. I take my ratings maybe too serious. I always state my honest opinion, I only rate machines I have played. I understand that people have different opinions. But just flagging something as inapproprate because I gave a 10, for the first time in my life, that seems a bit childish. So if someone who reported my review would like to eloborate and discuss my rating I will be open for that. I am open for revising my rating, no issue, but come with some good points, just do not say I just gave a bogus review......

You can make the selection to show the ratings without these comments. Yes there are people who rate GNR CE extremely poorly, and this doesn't even include people who keep their ratings private. Tell us m00nmuppet (4.675) and Thunderbird (3.018), why do you dislike this game so much?

Are you serious ?
You have been a member of pinside longer than me , don't you realise this is the internet , even if I posted , " I love pinball " , I would still get downvotes .
You give a fuck about what anyone else says ? Stick to your own opinion and go from there .

I love pinball.

Just to be a smart-ass , I wanted to give you a down vote , but I just can't do it

I know this is the big bad internet, but having met all kinds of nice people in this hobby, for most with a true passion for pinball, I would have hoped this would be a better place....Most club threads I am into are really helpfull and thinking along with any problem/or question.

Of course the majority of pinsiders are really great and helpful .
But when it comes to rating games , some people will put down the best game ever , so whatever they like , has an advantage .

Guessing but when you rate a game a perfect 10 (CE) yet note in your review you haven’t played it and the LE is “slow” yet perfect people question the value of the review. Doesn’t mean much though as long as you enjoy it.

I just posted my review on this machine last night. I'm admittedly in the Honeymoon phase with this game, so time will tell if the love in fades!

First of all, the ratings are all subjective, but the way people try to manipulate them is just sad and stupid. A perfect 10 for ANY machine is as stupid as a rating of 2 for this particular machine. This game is BONKERS. I'm thinking it's definitely one of the best pins ever made... But it's not a perfect 10. I think my rating worked out to a 9.3 ish. Lighting and Animations got perfect 10s for me, as did layout and rules... But there is literally NOT a toy in the game. How can you give that a 10?? Point being, I DON'T CARE that it doesn't have a goofy pinball toy... The rest of the package MORE THAN makes up for that. Would it be BETTER with a toy?! I don't know. It's almost perfect as is.

I was a JJGnR Naysayer at the outset. I was saying things like, "Well, it's definitely an impressive piece of hardware... but will it be any fun to play?!", Or "Sure, it's full of assets, but all of those assets are Guns and Roses... So, if you don't like the band, who cares?!"

I've never been so happy to be wrong about a machine. Eric and team knocked this one out of the park... Actually, they knocked it out of the County that the ball park is in!! I was really looking forward to telling a bunch of my pals that the game they are so excited about BLOWS... but it is simply amazing.

Here's the main thing I want to say. This game is incredible, but NOT for the reasons that are getting a lot of people excited. I really don't care about the number of GnR songs, and video content, and LEDs... The Game SHOOTS Great, has GREAT Risk Reward Code design, and is exhilarating to play. It would be just as good with 300 Less Lights, and half the songs, and video content. I'm not saying those things don't make it better (Of course they Do!), but the bones of a great pinball experience are there. Shots, Rules, Theme Integration.

I'm a HUGE Stern fan. I think JP is one of the best pins ever made. I also love my AIQ. I've always been a fan of what JJP was TRYING to do. I think they've finally done it with GnR. A good friend locally messaged me, "Every other pin in my collection is now for sale". HA. I'm not going there yet, but this pin is blowing my mind.

Kudos to the entire JJP Team on creating a truly magnificent Pinball experience. Like Maiden and Met before it... It's even turning me in to a bit of a GnR Fan! That's something I never thought I'd say!

If anyone rates this game 2, 1, 0, -3 that has to be fine too, I’ll guess they didn’t liked the game at all after they’re played it.
I rate it 10/10 because is 10/10 for me not for those other guys ...

New update.

Change log : http://marketing.jerseyjackpinball.com/gnr/gnr_changelog.txt

LTG : )

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Update is really quick (WiFi is awesome). The only issue I had was my game never booted back up. I had to cycle power

I changed my game pitch a bit, to try and account for the ball getting stuck (some where on something) when hitting the left orbit. Now, 8 out of 10 times, the ball goes up the left "Travel" orbit, hits something I can't see under the upper playfields, and comes back down.

Before I pull the playfield on this 12k machine that I just had delivered, does anyone know if there is a legitimate reason based on gameplay where the orbits don't go all the way around? Outside of the magnet above the top lanes catching it of course.

It’s all subjective, right?

I’m just trying to help people understand where they’re going wrong if they disagree with me! Haha