Quoted from PBINTHESOUTH:

What is "tip and tell"..

Quoted from Concretehardt:

unless the driver is willing to sit there for an hour + while I unbox and inspect it.

Quoted from MT45:

Someone had asked for a video of the attract mode showing the new undercab and behind the backbox RGBW controlled lights
Here is a 60 second video that has most of the attract lighting action

Quoted from meSz:

https://www.shippinglabels.com/tip-n-tell-video

Anytime I accept a delivery I sign it "STI". No driver ever questioned it and I was advised by someone in the shipping business to do this as STI stands for "Subject To Inspection". The person that advised me of this said by signing STI it allows you to go back on the shipping company for any damages that were not seen upon receipt of the item. Luckily I have never had an issue with a delivery so I don't know if this is true or not but at a minimum one can say that I'd actually sign for it.

Quoted from Concretehardt:

The problem with that is, it is easy to miss hidden damage on a quick inspection. The video above shows all those guys going all around that game for 15 minutes and no one noticed the damage... besides all that if the tip and tell has been actuated chances are the games been dropped, so it not should be signed for IMHO.

Quoted from PinFever:

Zoinks , doesnt the boxes state this side up ? or are is there an option for horizontal transport as well ?

Quoted from meSz:

https://www.shippinglabels.com/tip-n-tell-video

Anytime I accept a delivery I sign it "STI". No driver ever questioned it and I was advised by someone in the shipping business to do this as STI stands for "Subject To Inspection". The person that advised me of this said by signing STI it allows you to go back on the shipping company for any damages that were not seen upon receipt of the item. Luckily I have never had an issue with a delivery so I don't know if this is true or not but at a minimum one can say that I'd actually sign for it.

Quoted from Yelobird:

I think the issue in this case is Tip n Tell only identifies if the parcel was Tipped. Drop and Tell is much harder to identify unless fully unpackaged.

Quoted from PBINTHESOUTH:

What is "tip and tell".

Quoted from cconway84:

I'm not a GNR owner but I'm wondering if there is any role for JJP or distributors to ban people buying games and flipping them immediately before it is even in their possession. Ford took a similar approach with the Ford GT banning flipping cars within a certain time period of taking ownership. Unenforceable for pinball other than blacklisting people from future purchases or at least moving them down the line. After the fiasco with so many people losing their CE slots I would think the pinball community would support games going to those who truly want it and not just the opportunists.
Buy and immediately flip a CE and you are waitlisted on your next CE purchase until supply is available.

Quoted from cconway84:

I'm not a GNR owner but I'm wondering if there is any role for JJP or distributors to ban people buying games and flipping them immediately before it is even in their possession. Ford took a similar approach with the Ford GT banning flipping cars within a certain time period of taking ownership. Unenforceable for pinball other than blacklisting people from future purchases or at least moving them down the line. After the fiasco with so many people losing their CE slots I would think the pinball community would support games going to those who truly want it and not just the opportunists.

Buy and immediately flip a CE and you are waitlisted on your next CE purchase until supply is available.

Quoted from Vitty:

There was some effort around making sure nobody was able to purchase multiple CE's if I recall. After that game on as it should be!

Quoted from zaphX:

Fedex boned me - they won't deliver until tomorrow.
One more day!

Quoted from Yelobird:

Ouchhhhh. I bet another Wonka video will clear your head.......lol

Quoted from zaphX:

I don't have anything else to say, really...from this point I just gotta execute and I think it will take another 8000 plays before I'll be effective enough to practice what I preach!
Honestly it's kind of a miracle that I got a kid GT on that stream...it's only the second time I've done it.

Quoted from PBINTHESOUTH:

What is "tip and tell".. I've always been able to have my delivery company let me unbox and inspect.. doesn't take very long and then i tip the guy for helping me getting into the downstairs garage..

Quoted from andrewket:

I agree. Upon delivery I inspect the box, and then open the top and look for broken glass. Besides the tip-n-tell, a casual inspection would not have discovered this damage. If the sensors are tripped, refuse it. It sucks, and adds weeks delay, but it’s much better than the alternative.
Watching the video made me cringe. From peak excitement to dread in 1.7 seconds.

Quoted from drfrightner:

Its already started I see a GNR CE up for sale right now for 20k. There is always that initial shock and awe on somethings rare where people just have to have them and will pay any amount. Considering there are MILLIONS and MILLIONS of GNR fans across the World with only 500 of these machines available to feed that massive audience. Considering if you found an album signed by this entire group as we see with the pinball machine would sell for about 3 or 4k alone.
Considering the machine is way beyond anything we've ever seen in pinball, just considering all of those factors what does this game settle on over the long run? Any thoughts?
When we look at POTC CE its now up to 22k, will this game end up lower because there will be more available? I would argue there are fewer POTC CE because no one wanted them at the time. GNR has a rabid fan base and once the games are purchased by a GNR fan, not a pinhead, they will probably NEVER leave those basements until death do they part. So you can argue both ways.
Does GNR head into the stratosphere on value eclipsing POTC CE or does it settle closer to the original $12,500?
I'd love to hear some thoughts. What is the highest price we'll see this machine sell for vs. the average price or the lowest price once they're all GONE!

Quoted from drfrightner:

Its already started I see a GNR CE up for sale right now for 20k. There is always that initial shock and awe on somethings rare where people just have to have them and will pay any amount. Considering there are MILLIONS and MILLIONS of GNR fans across the World with only 500 of these machines available to feed that massive audience. Considering if you found an album signed by this entire group as we see with the pinball machine would sell for about 3 or 4k alone.
Considering the machine is way beyond anything we've ever seen in pinball, just considering all of those factors what does this game settle on over the long run? Any thoughts?
When we look at POTC CE its now up to 22k, will this game end up lower because there will be more available? I would argue there are fewer POTC CE because no one wanted them at the time. GNR has a rabid fan base and once the games are purchased by a GNR fan, not a pinhead, they will probably NEVER leave those basements until death do they part. So you can argue both ways.
Does GNR head into the stratosphere on value eclipsing POTC CE or does it settle closer to the original $12,500?
I'd love to hear some thoughts. What is the highest price we'll see this machine sell for vs. the average price or the lowest price once they're all GONE!

Quoted from drfrightner:

Its already started I see a GNR CE up for sale right now for 20k. There is always that initial shock and awe on somethings rare where people just have to have them and will pay any amount. Considering there are MILLIONS and MILLIONS of GNR fans across the World with only 500 of these machines available to feed that massive audience. Considering if you found an album signed by this entire group as we see with the pinball machine would sell for about 3 or 4k alone.
Considering the machine is way beyond anything we've ever seen in pinball, just considering all of those factors what does this game settle on over the long run? Any thoughts?
When we look at POTC CE its now up to 22k, will this game end up lower because there will be more available? I would argue there are fewer POTC CE because no one wanted them at the time. GNR has a rabid fan base and once the games are purchased by a GNR fan, not a pinhead, they will probably NEVER leave those basements until death do they part. So you can argue both ways.
Does GNR head into the stratosphere on value eclipsing POTC CE or does it settle closer to the original $12,500?
I'd love to hear some thoughts. What is the highest price we'll see this machine sell for vs. the average price or the lowest price once they're all GONE!

Quoted from f3honda4me:

Supply and demand - my gut tells me that GNR won't eclipse JJPOTC long term, simply because there will be a lot more GNR available to the pinball buying population.

Quoted from cconway84:

I'm not a GNR owner but I'm wondering if there is any role for JJP or distributors to ban people buying games and flipping them immediately before it is even in their possession. Ford took a similar approach with the Ford GT banning flipping cars within a certain time period of taking ownership. Unenforceable for pinball other than blacklisting people from future purchases or at least moving them down the line. After the fiasco with so many people losing their CE slots I would think the pinball community would support games going to those who truly want it and not just the opportunists.
Buy and immediately flip a CE and you are waitlisted on your next CE purchase until supply is available.

Quoted from drfrightner:

Its already started I see a GNR CE up for sale right now for 20k. There is always that initial shock and awe on somethings rare where people just have to have them and will pay any amount. Considering there are MILLIONS and MILLIONS of GNR fans across the World with only 500 of these machines available to feed that massive audience. Considering if you found an album signed by this entire group as we see with the pinball machine would sell for about 3 or 4k alone.
Considering the machine is way beyond anything we've ever seen in pinball, just considering all of those factors what does this game settle on over the long run? Any thoughts?
When we look at POTC CE its now up to 22k, will this game end up lower because there will be more available? I would argue there are fewer POTC CE because no one wanted them at the time. GNR has a rabid fan base and once the games are purchased by a GNR fan, not a pinhead, they will probably NEVER leave those basements until death do they part. So you can argue both ways.
Does GNR head into the stratosphere on value eclipsing POTC CE or does it settle closer to the original $12,500?
I'd love to hear some thoughts. What is the highest price we'll see this machine sell for vs. the average price or the lowest price once they're all GONE!

Quoted from Yelobird:

And from what I am gathering May surpass even WOZ numbers in a record short time which is a Great thing for JJP. Glad to see Erics second release be a new milestone for them.

Quoted from frankmac:

I would say the (GNR CE) is $15,500 to $18,500 easy today (01-20-21)” New in box”.
500 made probably only 250 or less in USA.
1 year from now NIB GNR CE $18,500-$25,000 easy.
This is NIB only .
“Played used pins” would depend on buyer/seller and conditions. I would guess $15,000 to $20,000 depending on who what where and when.

Quoted from Skyemont:

Guys. Is there any way to cut down the shaker motor. It’s rumbles to much!

Quoted from f3honda4me:

You could install one of these. amazon.com link » Makes it so the shakers dont run so hard and you can dial it up/down.

Quoted from Skyemont:

Guys. Is there any way to cut down the shaker motor. It’s rumbles to much!

Quoted from MT45:

Hooked up the newly arrived SVS SB3000 today ... OMG, 800watts RMS and 2,500 peak on tap
Had to use the parametric EQ to remove a bit of high bass "boom" and now it simply just kicks you in the gut - and reproduces nice clean/powerful bass lines from the music. Just love it and though subtle, a step up from the SVS 12" I had there before
I used the Pinnovators quick tap system to tap into the existing sub/cab wiring - took all of 2 minutes
Also got my selection of Titan rubbers today and will test some colors tonight
Still loving this game even more every time I play it - it's amazing![quoted image][quoted image]

Quoted from Skyemont:

Guys. Is there any way to cut down the shaker motor. It’s rumbles to much!

Quoted from MT45:

Hooked up the newly arrived SVS SB3000 today ... OMG, 800watts RMS and 2,500 peak on tap
Had to use the parametric EQ to remove a bit of high bass "boom" and now it simply just kicks you in the gut - and reproduces nice clean/powerful bass lines from the music. Just love it and though subtle, a step up from the SVS 12" I had there before
I used the Pinnovators quick tap system to tap into the existing sub/cab wiring - took all of 2 minutes
Also got my selection of Titan rubbers today and will test some colors tonight
Still loving this game even more every time I play it - it's amazing![quoted image][quoted image]

Quoted from romulusx:

You probably already turned it down in settings?

Quoted from Skyemont:

Yeah. Testing it now. I have it on low. Even medium was shaking like a bitch.

Quoted from Eskaybee:

It does shake pretty hard at times. The problem with having it on low is you totally miss out the ‘You could be mine’ experience.

Quoted from Skyemont:

Question about jukebox settings. How do you know what song you are about to play? Nothing shows on the screen or anything. You have to remember the lineup??

Quoted from MT45:

Hooked up the newly arrived SVS SB3000 today ... OMG, 800watts RMS and 2,500 peak on tap