Been thinking about this lately too... plus as an added bonus it would free up garage space.

How did the jokes go?....

A Pat Lawlor game doesn't get nudged, it nudges the planet.

It was good to see all the Hobbits ready to head out the door in TNT's video.

Wrong forum... um... ya.

I remember having nightmares after watching that one as a kid *shiver*... JJP teams up with spooky for RTO.

My theory on the reason for two is that they will be networked together. Although Pat did say he had at least 5 ideas he wanted to build out.

While true I'm generally a pretty optimistic person, I really think here its just plain fun to speculate and dream.

They have expressed that they want to start releasing games much more regularly. It seems to me like they are on their way towards that goal... a solid platform in place so development time doesn't get sucked away for that, two production lines, multiple designers(?)...

Pat said he had something like 5 pins in his head he was excited to pitch / work on, if this one is successful they could have him continue his original theme vision while another designer alternates with licensed games.

One thing JJP so far has nailed down is the adventure theme... WOZ and TH are both based on fantasy/adventure and the games themselves both reflect that feeling of adventure I think better than any other company has managed to do to date. I would now really like to see what they do with other genres. A JJP scifi/space theme is what I hope to someday see.

On a positive note, I finally got to try out the ignore feature?

Plus its not like someone came to Pat and said I want you to design a game with a cell phone theme.... this was Pats Idea from inception. Theres also the possibility that the cell theme is a decoy. Either way I'm counting the days. Really wish I could be there.

Also someone posted in another thread that in their Expo email newsletter, it was reported that there would be 5 of them there.

LOL LTG!

Diverging from the pin being revealed at Expo, I would LOVE to see JJP do a Star Wars pin... and Rogue One is looking like its going to be a strong movie, at least I'm hoping as they seem to be just recycling the same story over with the core films.

I would not be surprised if Stern already had that locked in... question is if they would license Rogue One separately and if they already have that movie locked as well.

A Stern Star Wars would be good fun pinball too I'm sure, but to me JJP has demonstrated a much stronger ability to capture a themes essence. For example with TH and WOZ I get really fun play with a sense of the heart of their respective movies... with GB (which I was super excited about) I get a fun pin that looks like ghostbusters but doesn't really feel like ghostbusters if that makes any sense and I can't really put my finger exactly on what that magic ingredient is thats missing.

Circling back to JJP #3, it will be interesting to see what the feel is for Pats original theme. I can barely stand the anticipation.

Its not just the LCD either as kpg pointed out the callouts, audio effects and music selection plays a role. I would also add that lighting and the way it all interacts with the ball/mode plays a role.

Too bad people can't just keep it real. Maybe they should take peoples sencere criticism as honest feedback from cash paying potential customers to improve their games instead of dismissing them as "fanboys" thereby guaranteeing that they spend their money elsewhere.

You're trying to make me skip work and buy a plane ticket aren't ya?!

LOL... gee life is sure depressing without Expo, I may just write a county western song about it.

I'd like to know as well for here in CA, dont mind a road trip if someone is good. Last time I ordered direct which was just fine as well.

Thats what I did last time and it was fine, would not hesitate to do it again. Just curious.

Seriously! I had to read that no fewer than 4 times in order to decipher it. Maybe its garbled output from Google translate?

Through please, anyway on to a readers digest version of the thread you are in.

- Original - non licensed, completely unique, not based on any existing TV show, Movie , etc theme.

- Pat Lawlor is the designer who is well known for making unique and fun games.

- The theme is to be revealed at Expo.. "surprise!!"

- Anyone who is a pinball fan and not a manufacturer fanboy is excited and curious to see what it is.

LOL, no worries. Sound of music would indeed be a surpreme dude of a theme. If anyone suggested it they were either joking or trolling.

Jaws Blocks of Music!

Of course as soon as the suspense of the unveiling is over the suspense of waiting for a chance to play it will start. I imagine my first chance will probably be at PAGG. If it hooks me there, i'm doomed.

Good point! Isn't the licencing for WOZ running out pretty soon? So it won't be long before the last of those roll out the door. Not sure how much longer they have Hobbit for... but having a hit unlicensed theme is a strong asset to have in your inventory as you can always pull it up and do a run without any red tape when you need to keep the line flowing.

My thoughts exactly, but very clever and fun idea.

Here's a thought:

Since everything in a modern game is CPU controlled... Bluetooth controlled mechs or even flippers that bystanders can take over.... miss a shot? +1 credit for bystander who can use that credit to say set your flippers to no hold at their whim for a total of 5 seconds...

LOL! I'm hoping for Rainbow Brite... oh wait, that's licensed. darn. Next time

Ya sure you wouldn't prefer this?

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Seperate and distinct definition. In the given context not vulgar and not referring to anatomy. Check a dictionary for yourself if you like. I know the english language is kind of strange in that we have multiple possible meanings for seemingly the same word but it is what it is. Your impression is not even the primary definition of the word which is a cat.

I sure hope so, but at this point not looking likely.

Six of them too, wow!

Yeah looking again, something is strange looking... maybe its just the angle and the loose covers but they definitely do not all even look to be the same shape. Intriguing.

Look closely at that thing in the middle of them... at first I thought it was just equipment but its another pin.. but maybe an older williams pin. That backbox looks crazy deep.

Maybe it's the Killer App gaining consciousness.

Also, all this talk of pizza is making me hungry... I think I know what I'm having tonight.

I wasn't disappointed, looks pretty much as expected to me, of course I had zero interest to begin with. Also I found their choice of LCD and how they mounted it to be kind awkward.

Drop the cell phone, drop bob the builder, rename to Quantum City and drop the price to 7k and I would have been sold. I do look forward to playing it sometime soon but the chances of buying went way down for me. It will have to be knock your socks off fun to play (which it looks like it may be). I guess I get to save my money, which isn't a bad thing.

I really hope it does appeal to kids, and they play the snot out of it in what few kid accessible pinball locations exist. I suppose it may be that I simply was not their target audience.

Or option 3) Nobody pre-orders or withdraws all of their preorders, they realize trouble early on and right the ship in time to minimize damage. They wouldn't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater... some light theme adjusting as others have suggested and a realistic price point should do the trick.

I did he exact same thing and my wife (who loves playing pinball too) had virtually same reaction... "so thats what you've been excited to see huh... whatever."

Maybe I'll get it once I have had time to play. I think for the reveal they would have been far better off just showing the game and explaining the core plot. I think what dissapointed me the most was that I was left confused about what it was supposed to be. I see a cell phone, bob the builder, future city, einstein theatre, a spider man insert, wizard blocks inserts, drones doing package delivery and I'm left wondering what the heck ties all these things together. If they could have explained some of the story/plot that ties these things together instead of fiddle with the cell phone play gimmick then it would have probably been better recieved.

Also pricing... i was really hoping they would undercut stern since since being a standard body with no licensing to pay for.

Yeah, spec wise it sounds absolutely amazing and I agree you get more from a JJP game than a typical stern. But until recently Stern could offer a really fun game for thousands less. I feel batman VE went way off the rails pricing wise and it would have been a great opportunity to strike with a notability lower price.

Sorry but when your talking nearly 10k for a pin +/- 500 is basically the same price. Heck 8,500 at least would have had a psychological impression of being significantly less. Anywhere in 7k (even 7900) and it would have made Sterns pricing look absolutely absurd and suck all the wind from their sails.

My memory from the launch was that they would be including some special toys unique to it and a different trim finish. Will probably also have a topper (I would hope).

Yeah, he doesn't seem to fit in right. Everything else looks awesome!

/"magic!"/...

Over Hobbit, any day of the week and twice on sunday. Over WOZ, no.... Next to WOZ, maybe, gotta play it.

I know... we still have 3 weeks until the new game gets revealed