Elton John (CE)
Jersey Jack, 2023
Elton John (PE)
Jersey Jack, 2023Quoted from pixelpete:Hey @iceman44! Thanks for the follow-up. I made the jukebox but it does not light up. Still trying to connect to JJP lights.
I created the Album covers for the Rock-A-Box area too. Did you prefer the jukebox?
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I like the jukebox myself
Quoted from pixelpete:Hey @iceman44! Thanks for the follow-up. I made the jukebox but it does not light up. Still trying to connect to JJP lights.
I created the Album covers for the Rock-A-Box area too. Did you prefer the jukebox?
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I like the jukebox also.
Quoted from rwredmon:My CE shows up tomorrow...way excited! How wide is the box itself? Trying to figure out if it will make it through the door in the box or if I'll have to remove the box outside.
Little less than 31”
Quoted from kempsuk:Hi All
I’ve had a Lamp Board #0 error a few times now. I have to power cycle the Pin to fix. EJ can just be on for 30 mins or so, and these errors appear.
I've reseated the USB-C cable to Lillypad board that connects it to the Playfield USB Controller and am monitoring. Just wondered if anyone has had this error.
Thanks in advance.
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I have this error. WHERE is lamp board 0? The manual doesn’t seem to show it, which is pretty lame. At least not by that name.
Quoted from jackd104:I have this error. WHERE is lamp board 0? The manual doesn’t seem to show it, which is pretty lame. At least not by that name.
What code are you running?
Quoted from titanpenguin:What code are you running?
2.01. I reseated all the usb ports I could find and it seems to have cleared up for now. Still curious to know what board is lamp board 0.
I had this happen on my EJCE..the lamp board 0 error. I purchased new better quality usb c cables. I replaced the main one running from the backbox to the controller under the play field ( six foot cable) and never had the problem since. Someone also suggested buying different color usb cables as opposed to black so you can keep track of the ones you've changed out. I arrived at the conclusion it's a cable failing. Hope this helps.
“You know you-cant-hold me-forever
I didnt sign up with you
I’m not a present-for your-friends to open-
this boys too young to be-singin the blues”
So perfect , about as good as it’ll get in pinball…
Quoted from Eeeek:I had this happen on my EJCE..the lamp board 0 error. I purchased new better quality usb c cables. I replaced the main one running from the backbox to the controller under the play field ( six foot cable) and never had the problem since. Someone also suggested buying different color usb cables as opposed to black so you can keep track of the ones you've changed out. I arrived at the conclusion it's a cable failing. Hope this helps.
The controller under the playfield *is* Lamp Board 0 (it drives the hotrails in addition to dealing with all the USB cable connections) so replacing the main cable going to it makes sense, in terms of the problem then going away.
Quoted from frobozz:The controller under the playfield *is* Lamp Board 0 (it drives the hotrails in addition to dealing with all the USB cable connections) so replacing the main cable going to it makes sense, in terms of the problem then going away.
Where is this controller exactly? Manual is not clear.
Quoted from jrawlinson_2000:Anyone else had two balls stuck in the the hurry-up VUK?
I've had this twice now during multi-balls.
And its a pain to get them out as one is wedged against the back and the blue rubber is stopping the lower ball from kicking either ball out.
You have to remove the glass and unscrew a plastic ball cover to get access.
Yes, you can see my earlier posts in the thread about it. JJP support had a comment about the ball height in the VUK.
I have not had issues since I cheated the plunger to be slightly longer to prevent the second ball from getting BEHIND the first. I do think a reliable long term solution would be a different shaped rubber bumper (a 3d printer could make) that would change how the ball sits and eliminate it getting behind the first.
Quoted from jackd104:Where is this controller exactly? Manual is not clear.
It's hanging from the bottom of the playfield on a bracket and has about a buzillion USB cables (plus two hotrail connections) going to it, you can't miss it.
Quoted from Mando:Does this game have an online scoring feature ? I know they used to have scorbit can’t seem to find it.
No. JJP axed scorbit. Nothing replaced it.
Quoted from Mando:Does this game have an online scoring feature ? I know they used to have scorbit can’t seem to find it.
Pinball-connect is the rumored replacement, but it hasn't been officially released yet.
Just got my elton platinum home and setup. It's brand new. The left E scoop won't recognize a ball is in there. But if I put my finger in front of what I think is called an onto under the playfield it will try to kick the ball out. Anyone have any suggestions... tha ks
Quoted from Pjpartyrentals:Just got my elton platinum home and setup. It's brand new. The left E scoop won't recognize a ball is in there. But if I put my finger in front of what I think is called an onto under the playfield it will try to kick the ball out. Anyone have any suggestions... tha ks
Sounds like the opto isn't aligned properly to recognize the ball.
Quoted from pixelpete:I created a Tiny Dancer mod for anyone interested.
"Hold me closer, Tony Danza."
Still one of the better misheard lyrics.
beelzeboob the switch lights up green like it know the ball is in there...but don't kick it back out
Quoted from Pjpartyrentals:beelzeboob the switch lights up green like it know the ball is in there...but don't kick it back out
Okay, then THAT sounds like a connection problem to your kicker coil. Check and make sure you don't have any loose connections or bad solder jobs at or near that coil.
I'm assuming you have the playfield up when you're testing with your finger? That may be jostling the connection just enough to make it work. Did you try the coil in the test menu? See if it works them with the playfield down. Only a few things that can cause that problem.
Finally got my EJ CE #852 unboxed and setup today! Just an awesome game! Pixelpete's light clip and tiny dancer mods and Mageeks's topper baffle mod on the way. A few questions:
* Looks like it shipped with v 1.10 from the factory. Assume I should go ahead and update to 2.1? Wouldn't connect to my wifi for some reason so will have to update via USB.
* The protective plastic film was on the cabinet sides, and on the apron. But not on the cabinet front or the shooter guide, correct? Sometimes a bit hard to tell and don't want to peel at the edges of the actual art.
* Like in this thread https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jjp-elton-john-official-owners-club/page/43#post-8210297, the left side rail on mine was up against the side art. Didn't notice that until I'd raised the playfield so a small scratch on the side art right away. 
I will adjust per the thread but definitely watch for that on your new game.
For $15K you'd think a hard copy owners manual could be included with the game. One of the t-nuts for the shaker motor was popped out of the cabinet bottom. Was an easy fix but would have thought that would have been caught at the factory.
But overall I'm really happy I went ahead with the CE. So beautiful and think they'll sell out soon!
Quoted from rwredmon:Finally got my EJ CE #852 unboxed and setup today! Just an awesome game! Pixelpete's light clip and tiny dancer mods and Mageeks's topper baffle mod on the way. A few questions:
* Looks like it shipped with v 1.10 from the factory. Assume I should go ahead and update to 2.1? Wouldn't connect to my wifi for some reason so will have to update via USB.
* The protective plastic film was on the cabinet sides, and on the apron. But not on the cabinet front or the shooter guide, correct? Sometimes a bit hard to tell and don't want to peel at the edges of the actual art.
* Like in this thread https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jjp-elton-john-official-owners-club/page/43#post-8210297, the left side rail on mine was up against the side art. Didn't notice that until I'd raised the playfield so a small scratch on the side art right away. I will adjust per the thread but definitely watch for that on your new game.
For $15K you'd think a hard copy owners manual could be included with the game. One of the t-nuts for the shaker motor was popped out of the cabinet bottom. Was an easy fix but would have thought that would have been caught at the factory.
But overall I'm really happy I went ahead with the CE. So beautiful and think they'll sell out soon!
I just got my CE a few days ago. Yes, update to the latest. Mine connected to wifi and was a breeze. There was no protective plastic on the front cabinet of mine. Your side art wouldn't have gotten scratched if you used the interior cabinet protective art blades that came with the game. Did you accidentally throw those out?
Quoted from ZAPPIN:I just got my CE a few days ago. Yes, update to the latest. Mine connected to wifi and was a breeze. There was no protective plastic on the front cabinet of mine. Your side art wouldn't have gotten scratched if you used the interior cabinet protective art blades that came with the game. Did you accidentally throw those out?
So looks like the wifi connection issue was just not doing the setup quite right. Went through it again and connected to wifi fine and the updates to 2.0 and then 2.1 went very smoothly.
Yes I had the cabinet protectors in place when I lifted the playfield so not quite sure what happened. Maybe they were out of position when I lowered it? Clearly will have to be more cognizant of that in the future.
My CE's skill shot lights have gone from being reliably working at the start of each ball to only intermittently working at the start of each ball during the last few weeks. When it works, it works properly to sequence back and forth, but when it is out, it is completely out with none of those lights turning on. Any ideas?
As update: there is just no clearance for the light rope clip on the left side of the playfield, even after attempting to shift the wireform a bit via loosening the two bolts at the back. The head of the screw for that light clip remains in touch with the side art. Also makes it a pain to install and use the side art protectors when pulling out the playfield. As mentioned here (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jjp-elton-john-official-owners-club/page/32#post-8139193) I have opted to remove that screw entirely and replace with a small cable tie. Not entirely happy with this solution; the light rope is not not entirely "smooth" following the wireform. But at least there is some clearance from the (already damaged) sideart. I'll continue to look at other options.
The right side is just about as tight but at least there is no screw head there, and seems that was solvable with very slighting bending the wireform away from the side.
Quoted from rwredmon:As update: there is just no clearance for the light rope clip on the left side of the playfield, even after attempting to shift the wireform a bit via loosening the two bolts at the back. The head of the screw for that light clip remains in touch with the side art. Also makes it a pain to install and use the side art protectors when pulling out the playfield. As mentioned here (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jjp-elton-john-official-owners-club/page/32#post-8139193) I have opted to remove that screw entirely and replace with a small cable tie. Not entirely happy with this solution; the light rope is not not entirely "smooth" following the wireform. But at least there is some clearance from the (already damaged) sideart. I'll continue to look at other options.
The right side is just about as tight but at least there is no screw head there, and seems that was solvable with very slighting bending the wireform away from the side.
Try loosening all the screws holding the wire form as well as the bolts, it should move mine did
Quoted from rwredmon:So looks like the wifi connection issue was just not doing the setup quite right. Went through it again and connected to wifi fine and the updates to 2.0 and then 2.1 went very smoothly.
Yes I had the cabinet protectors in place when I lifted the playfield so not quite sure what happened. Maybe they were out of position when I lowered it? Clearly will have to be more cognizant of that in the future.
The rail bolt was dangerously close to the art blade on my CE, too. I replaced that bolt with a zip tie literally while the protectors were still in, before the delivery guy from my distro left, even. Wasn’t gonna take any chances.
Quoted from Flippingr8:My CE's skill shot lights have gone from being reliably working at the start of each ball to only intermittently working at the start of each ball during the last few weeks. When it works, it works properly to sequence back and forth, but when it is out, it is completely out with none of those lights turning on. Any ideas?
I had same issue. Just go under playfield and "push" the wires into the molex for those connectors and that should fix it. Mine just needed a little more pressure to fully engage the wires to the molex connectors. You can follow the color of wires to see which board and molex connectors to "play" with.
I'm testing out my new EJ Album mod and made a few extra if anyone interested.
The one installed is the tester. The 2 in the pic below are my extras.
Not sure if I will sell these in volume depending on feedback.
If interested, please PM me. Install is super easy like with all my mods.
My EJ Album mod replaces the Rock-a-Box plastic and uses 2 existing screws.
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Quoted from PinCrush:Don't know if you guys saw the Stumblor stream, but looks like a replacement for the warp ramp sign may be on the horizon. Wasn't much shown but he was hoping to gauge interest. I'm interested.
Put me on the list.
Quoted from DeeGor:Put me on the list.
Put me on list too.
Quoted from muttonboy:I've had this happen ~5 times now in the past 7+ months. I play one game a day. Its a lot like tilting but the the bonus goes thru. Flippers completely stop until balls are drained. Always during a multiball when lots of stuff is going on, always late in a long game 3rd or 4th concert multiball. I feel like I caused a similar issue installing the pinwoofer kit.
This game has plenty going on in it for 5 ball play. It hands out so many multiballs anyways its not much different. Takes longer to get thru it all than STTNG or LOTR in my collection, both great 5 ball games imo. My average game time is around 13 minutes. Most of the high scoreboards don't get jacked up by extra balls either.
For airballs my bumpers are down at 9 i believe, but the biggest fix was to give the switches some preload they are installed barely touching the rubbers they need to be bent in to always have some pressure.
Is there any game more blinding than collecting a milestone?
Hey 
muttonboy - thanks for the feedback.
I'm not sure this is related but I wanted to share. We've had two documented cases of something like this with our system in play. One in Canada and one in the US: I/O communication error during multiball with the volume at max ("ish"). We also have two reports of this error under similar circumstances, out of the box during multiball, without our system in play. Perhaps this suggests the power system is "on the edge", so to speak. However, we are unable to duplicate this with our CE.
The theory is that the power requirements of this game has taxed the IO driver board and / or transformer to the max and a voltage droop causes the error during "busy" times. (Possibly the IO DB or motherboard is monitoring the 24V DC voltage and throws this error.) Unfortunately, we do not know the root cause, only speculation. But it appears to happen with or without our system in play. For one case, keeping the volume a bit lower seemed to help, but this is not conclusive.
We do have an alternative that bypasses game power, and runs off of an adapter, and the audio performance is indistinguishable from our baseline power solution. This alternative is at the below link and may remedy the issue:
https://pinwoofer.com/jjp-alternate-power-solution/
If you would like to work on this with me, please get in touch.
Thanks,
Dan
PinWoofer.com
[email protected]
+1 208-855-0346
Quoted from Flippingr8:My CE's skill shot lights have gone from being reliably working at the start of each ball to only intermittently working at the start of each ball during the last few weeks. When it works, it works properly to sequence back and forth, but when it is out, it is completely out with none of those lights turning on. Any ideas?
Look at the score, before you shot your first ball of the game. If not zero, it’s likely that something is incorrectly scoring so indicating that the ball is in play.
I had that issue, that I found to be a bumper that had the switch contacts set to close. Typical the ball ejecting into the shooter lane had enough vibration to trigger one of the bumper switches.
…I’m yet to fix mine, as I don’t have my switch blade adjuster with me. But I’ve found it’s slowly improving itself over time, after previously getting worse over time.
Quoted from Navystan:Put me on list too.
Put me on the list three.
Wow I think I may have just scored myself a CE - been looking at this game for a while now it just looks like pure fun! 
Will be my first JJP as none of the others have really grabbed me (yes I've played them all, although ironically I have not played EJ yet). This one looks outstanding though!
Quoted from Ceemunkey:Wow I think I may have just scored myself a CE - been looking at this game for a while now it just looks like pure fun!
Will be my first JJP as none of the others have really grabbed me (yes I've played them all, although ironically I have not played EJ yet). This one looks outstanding though!
You must be the lucky one that picked up that bargain that popped up for sale. I think you are in for a treat. Interested to hear your thoughts once you have played it.
Quoted from Ceemunkey:Wow I think I may have just scored myself a CE - been looking at this game for a while now it just looks like pure fun!
Will be my first JJP as none of the others have really grabbed me (yes I've played them all, although ironically I have not played EJ yet). This one looks outstanding though!
Congrats mate, its an amazing game. I was a little slow on that sale.
Quoted from Jfed:You must be the lucky one that picked up that bargain that popped up for sale. I think you are in for a treat. Interested to hear your thoughts once you have played it.
Quoted from Macca101010:Congrats mate, its an amazing game. I was a little slow on that sale.
Ha ha yeah that's me - I'd been scouring the aussie sites for an EJ for a couple of weeks non-stop. I must have grabbed that within 2 minutes of the ad being put up. 
Yea 25.5k here plus delivery so call it 26K NIB
To get a CE lightly used for the price of a new PE is certainly a good deal. Briefly thought of moving on my PE to upgrade but it was gone before I had the chance - hopefully your roof is high enough
EJCE #209 now installed in Menai / Sydney / Australia. I understand this was the last NIB CE in Oz.
What a stunningly beautiful game. Sold my STTNG to make space for it, a little sad to see it go, but for me EJCE is so much better. I also have a TS4 CE to keep it company. Another beautiful pin.
Thank you to all the owners and prospective owners genuine contributions on this thread. Shame about some of the non-owner nonsense noise…..
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