I thought that I would start a topic that focuses on the Collectors Edition for "Dialed In". While I am in for this game for $12,500, I was very firm on my initial remarks on what we would get regards to the extra $3,500.00. Again this is my opinion and I hope some of the JJP team look at this and take all comments and hopefully we will get value for the extra cost. I would pay this amount for the game, But I need to see what makes it worth it -- What is it going to say that is like WOW - -This was worth the cost. When I was lucky enough to be the high bidder on the AMH #150 -- To me it was for a good cause and was worth the money.

To me -- I do not care about a Signed Plaque or a Signed Manual or a Shirt or anything along that line -- It must be in the game / artwork / Extra Toys / Cabinet Artwork / Code or something unique -- That is what makes it worth a collectors Edition. These days of LE's at 1,000 and 2,500 or 6,999 are NOT Limited Editions. I was not a big fan of Batman 66 Super LE but at least there was only 30 of those. I saw a post were there was some mention of Rad Decals and Mirror Glass and the 3D etched artwork. I think for $9000.00 the LE's should come automatic with the Mirrored Glass and Rad Decals / Shaker Motor, etc.

It has to be like WOW -- This is worth $12,500 -- Otherwise better off staying with the $9,000 LE version or in my case -- If it does not come thru - I will Pass and wait for the next BIG THING. That is one thing that I can say about the PINBALL world. There are some very exciting games that will be coming down the pipeline in the next few years.

I am curious -- What does the PINSIDE Community think that for the $3,500.00 would make the game worth the cost?

Who is in for a Dialed In CE?

True -- Got me thinking about that very same thing

Could be a reason for someone to have that would be rare...but knowing my luck....they would make a special red version.

I like Jack....but @#$% No!!!

NO CARES ABOUT THE SIGNED STUFF.......

I wonder how many are signed up for one. LAST I HEARD IT WAS THREE .....sure it has gone up a few more...just kind of curious about that.

Please let me know what is going to be in the CE version...It suppose tk be the best of the best...but it got to be more than a signed book. I am really hoping that the CE's are going to stand out among the rest

YES.....I TOTALLY AGREE!!! I have a Tron LE and have it all bling out...but your right the game itself is different from the others.

PLEASE Jack....Make the CE's the ones that will set the standard for others....I agree that there is a market for us collectors out there....but the game has to unique and it has to be limited and I am pretty sure that at 12,500.00 with a deadline of end of this year to get on the list and make thw deposit ....there is not going to be alot of CE's out there. That in itself will help with the value in my opinion. But please dont insult us on signed books or a signed comic....I really want this to be Bad Ass so that i can put it with my other JJP games.

COME ON JJP......LETS MAKE THIS HAPPEN.....BRING IT HOME.....LOL

I am sorry -- I am not trying Beg - But I know it came across that way - Yes it is been good -- But I will say that I will not get this game if the CE's does not justify the cost -- I am finding it hard to see how these games are getting to be so HIGH in cost -- I know there is cost for employees / Buildings / Equipment / Materials / Talent and so on and so on ...I am just saying that for $12,500 - THERE MUST BE SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE -- WOW!!! -- But maybe I am just wishing

I agree -- It got to be something more than just a Mirror backglass and RadCals - and again not to pound it into the ground -- NO ONE CARES about the signed stuff -- Again it is my opinion. Yes - I do well and I love Pinball and I have been lucky enough to win TWO charity auctions and my company does it for a good cause -- but there is a limit. I will see what Jack does -- But if it is what is on the table today as far as the features for the CE -- Then I would have to say that I am out of a CE version - I will wait for the next BIG THING -- and trust me there is always the next BIG THING around the corner - at least for now. They keep this up on pricing -- I would start to wonder when the bubble is going to break.

None taken -- I agree -- In regards to cost and what it has to offer -- I would agree that this is most crazy price for the value -- But from what I have been told that there will be an update for the CE -- So time will tell and it will be interesting to see if the price does stay the same and if it does.....What is in package for the upgrade -- I dont want to hear that TRUST ME it will be worth the cost and we have to wait to after the 31st of December to see what it is -- I trust that Jack will tells us and for those that want to stay in for that cost -- More power to them -- but some will either drop or use their deposit for the next game are apply it towards another game - at least that is what I would do if I did not like what JJP has to say about the CE's.

I agree -- I am just on the fence about the extra cost and Jack needs to get this announcement out soon and if not - I think I am going to have to pass -- This is what I have said from the start -- If it is just what was said in regards to Rad Cals / Mirrored Glass / Some Signatures, Which I could get on my own, and a Toy or Two -- Then - I PASS -- That is going to be almost half for another game like the Attack from Mars when that comes out ---

LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS......

I see the 9,000.00 absolute -- But I am just holding out for what they do for the 3,500 extra - But most are right out there -- Either you like it or not - and it you got the extra COIN to go for the CE -- Got for it. I am just waiting to see what is in the final deal for the CE and if they say that there will be a surprise and those in for the CE have to wait for more information into next year. I am going to pass. Some I am really pulling for JJP to make the announcement this coming week or so.

LOL -- What is up with the Plant??

I like it -- Nice Plant -- Now lets get back to Dial In CE -- Come on JACK -- What is the final product going to includes --

Why can not the code / Game play be different that the others -- It would add another dimension to the game and value - Something unique - other than a different color or a singed book / or a hard shell artwork -

GOOD COMMENT...I LIKE THAT ONE

Has anyone heard anything more on the the CE Versions?

LOL -- Well I think it really might only be between 10 to 20 -- But curious what it will include -- It will make a difference on what I do. I think they (Stern and JJP) are starting a fine line and for me this is just important if they are going to care about the CE version and put the effort into it and I really want to see the results before I commit. I really understand that cost are more with Materials, Buildings, Taxes, Talent, Etc - I think that this could be a great game - Just should not have been introduced until it was done and complete or IMO more complete. ALOT of people are getting upset that games are not complete or that they will get us the latest code and dont deliver until years later or not at all and some of us are still waiting for code updates.

With 2 weeks left to go till Thanksgiving and approx. about 1.5 months away from the deadline date for the CE's -- Who is in for a CE version??

LOL -- That would be sweet -- I Love JJP games -- He really has done an amazing job - I think this game will be great -- Will it the best -- NO ..But is that not what it is all about - Technology changes - and the games are getting better and better -- There really is more into these games these days and it really is amazing. JJP rocks and I am just waiting for the results that will be in the CE...Sure it is going to be nice -- I hope.

Bump....Has anyone heard more info on the CE Version...I have sent out inquiry to Jack at JJP...hope to hear back from him soon.

I dont know -- That is why I am curious on what they are going to do -- I am on the fence --- YES -- But I am not saying that it has to be 4500 in material more -- The part of being somewhat limited is going to add some value -- But we all know people out there that can do powder coating and add toy and mods to make the game more interesting. So what would I guess...Well maybe some of these and I do think that some of this should be in the LE model because the game is still 9,000 for that price you should get alot as well.

-- Special Mirror Backglass, Maybe singed and numbered
-- Shaker Motor or
-- PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT ALL PARTS ARE POWDERCOATED -- Including the leg bolts, Shooter Housing, hinge bolt, etc -- I just get PIST that you have most of the trim powder coated a special color and then see a freakin black or chrome shooter housing-- Just my opinion
--Lazer cut side rails with some maybe LED lighting effects incorporated into the game.
--RadCals for sure make the artwork something unique and special
--Mirror side blades or do something with unique with the companies that make these and do something that will only be for the CE's -- I just think looking at the side panels being black is just not finish -- On All my games, I add at least the mirror blades and I just got my first Creepy PowerBlades for Metallic LE
-- Show the extra details in the playfield with color rubbers, Extra Toys, Mods, Color Plastic Protectors, LeD light effects, Make the nuts like color or finished cap - Powder Coated rails or color rails -- or do those fade or flake over time.
--Special Topper only made available for the CE's -- You can have other topper made but for the CE -- Make a special one that is unique for those that were make the investment of the 3500.00
-- I get the the signed books and all -- But not worth anything in regards to the CE Owners -- We can always get Jack to sign our stuff -- He is not going to say NO. I get it -- It is signed...But a signed comic book...Come one -- They are running out of ideas, if they think that this is perk.
--I know some unique program or different Code for the CE would be nice like Tron LE was done -- But I dont think that will even be a thought.

I know that I am stretching -- But for 2500 LE's that will be built -- That is just not a Limited Edition Run -- I know the CE's will be far more limited but for me it got to be something that I like for the extra cost -- I know everyone has their own opinions and maybe some just knowing that there are not going to be that many CE's made is going to be worth the 3500.00 extra for that reason alone. But I am on the fence, I love JJP games and I am just waiting to see what they come up with for the 3500 and see if they really do put some true thoughts into this CE model for Dialed In. If they do - Then I am in. If not -- Then wait for a LE down the road for a lesser cost and save the extra for a #4 JJP game.

I hear that we should know in the next week or two -- I hope so, 12/31/16 is not that far away.

Your Joking === Right? Come one -- Cant be serious? Tell me that I am being punked.....

Lets see what happens....I will be shocked if it is that in what has been mentioned here lately. I would have to say that I would be out and with them doing 2500 LE there will be no rush to get in one of those and we are all better off waiting for a slightly used one for about 8000.00 or less......I will wait and see what happens....i hope they deliver. But I am starting to agree with some on comments here on this post.

BUMP
COME ON JJP -- REALLY MAKE THIS ONE HAPPEN ... I AM READY. What is it going to include?

I do agree on one thing -- I don't understand the deadline for the CE's -- I say that they should only make 25, or 30 or even 50 or these and that is it, Pick a number and stay with it -- No matter what -- that way we all know how many were made and they are numbered. I know that I requested #12 (which is my lucky number) -- You know it is going to be limited for that price -- I am just sayin, I would like to know at the end on how many were made. I have been asked for my opinion and I gave it to JJP respectfully.

I am still hopeful for a good outcome on this CE Version -- I know it can all be put into the game, I mod up my games all the time and spend thousands extra on each game sometimes -- I know it is a matter of taste and the the low numbers of these being made -- that will also say something for this edition -- Just want to see what they come up with -- I am really curious on this one.

Well....its December 1st....Will we ever know and to probably most....no one cares. But, for me I do care...this is really going to be interesting. I have read alot on this game and I know its gojng to be fun either way....This will just determine on what they for the extra...I say that if it is just a sign shirt or jacket or comic book or a lunch deal with Pat or whoever....I will be out for good. Make it in the game....It can be done...listen to those around and make it all about the game and the details...Make it Unique.

or more I think about it....

JUST MAKE ONE GAME VERSION AND SELL IT FOR THE PRICE AND WILL SELL SAY 8000...AND LET THOSE ADD ON FOR THE EXTRAS IF THEY WISH FOR EXTRA STUFF TO BE DONE.

Crazy...Will we ever know before 12/31????

Well...Not trying to do that to myself. I just think that with games going up higher and higher...this is getting out of hand...I truly believe they are going to loose customers because of this....people are going to wait and get them for a much lower price. I SEE A LIMITED DIALED IN SELLING FOR 7500 TO 7800 WITHIN A YEAR AFTER IT IS RELEASED IN THE SECONDARY MARKET

So maybe that is my resolve to this question.......

Now we got 29 Days ...Still No Answers ... ...

I wonder what the customized software is going to be about -- Anyone have any ideas or insights on that feature for the CE version.

Will the Toppers for the CE's only be made available to the CE's? I wonder if there will be any images or pics prior to the deadline -- You think that might do that to have those interested to lock in prior to the due date - This is kind of interesting -- Kind of curious what they are talking about on the Expo -- Is it just a pass to got to the expo - Just saying -- Kind of curious.

Customized Software does have me curious as does the Topper and some of the other features -- I guess stay tuned for more info to come from the JJP team.

Ita not about the money. I paid over 16000 for the #150 AMH and it was for a good cause. Will i get get that for that game...Probably not and i dont care...it was a good cause.....on this its about what they are including in the game and yes I have over 100,000 in games and just spend over 11,000 in mods and going to spend more because there are some great companies out there that are make some really cool stuff for these games and by Sping I will have an Open House at my office where ALL of these games will be able to be played and I am going to do a special Open Event to all Pinsiders that want to come and enjoy these games...food and just hang out and have some fun. THAT WILL BE ANNOUNCED SOON BY END OF THIS MONTH.

I work hard and for those of you out there know me...I work hard and earn every bit of what i have. I enjoy Pinball Machines and my Vipers and other cars.

Not talking myself into one...I am down for one....I just wanted it to be released before the 12 / 31 date to make sure that we are just not adding some signed stuff and a Jacket....It needed to be more than that and I am glad to see that more was added and the software might be interesting.

i have more information and promise that I would not revel until it is official and is for certain and hopefully more details are going to be mentioned...but this really could be something that will be unique and interesting

Not rich...Just work hard for what I have...and all my games are open to the public to play for free except for my Lord of the Rings...Black Spiderman and BBB. I love seeing their faces and the little kids paying the games. There is nothing like this in our area and to have those come in off the streets and enjoy these games is awesome. I am hoping to add this to the collection...I am just taking a stronger stance on it before it is all final and I am glad to see that they did add more.

Yes ...i played it...very nice game and very well made.

I like my Happy Meals -- Especially the Minions Toys -- I would not spend money on Sushi. But I do respect that some will spend money on some items and other would not - All I am saying on this topic is that JJP needs to reveal ALL the items before the deadline date and those that want it -- Can get it and those that do not -- Will NOt -- But even the new list for the CE is not clear -- YES there is the Topper / the lazer Etch rails / Signed Book and such -- But what about the code -- That could be the most interesting -- But I give them props for adding more to the game other than a Lunch and a signed Book. But I think some are still on the fence because it is STILL not 100% on what they are getting --

Regardless -- The GAME IS AWESOME and I know it is going to be fun -- and I hope to have it at our OPEN HOUSE PARTY that I will be doing for those here on Pinside that can attend.

Trust me....I have done that....I dont think this is Jack has thw final say....I have voiced my views and ideas....and I think others have as well to him. And as you can see its signed stuff and a lunch and thing at the next Expo that those CE owners get a heads up on the next reveal and a chance to play the game before it goes public.....A jacket...and some small stuff in the game that is still not sure what it means by different code. I think he is definitely trying his best....

YES ...F&c%9^ right -- This is getting to be Bull S&$T. I remember when games were not powder coated...and Stern and Others did not even gave a a S&$T. Now they are doing this -- But they are leaving the Coin Box out and Apron and Shooter Housing plain and IT LOOKS F&^CKIN UGLY and IT IS NOT COMPLETE -- I have to take my stuff off and Send it to Matt or Steve to have it down or have it down local.

COME ON JJP -- NO ONE CARE FOR THE LUNCH OR THE SIGNED COMIC OR THE JACKET -- I AM NOT TRYING TO RIP ON JJP -- I HAVE BOUGHT BOTH OF THEIR TWO GAMES AND SOLD TWO OF THEM TO USE FOR CHARITY AUCTION -- I THINK JJP GAMES ARE GREAT AND AWESOME -- TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH -- JUST SCRAP THE WHOLE IDEA AND JUST MAKE ONE GREAT -- BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO AN CE -- YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT STAND OUT --

FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE -- I DID NOT START THIS POST TO TRY TO TALK ME INTO THE GAME -- I STILL WANT THE GAME -- IT JUST MAKE ME MADE ABOUT SOME OF THE SIGNED STUFF AND OTHER BULL S&$T.

Put it in the game -- Put it in the Game -- PUT IT IN THE GAME!!!!!!

LISTEN JJP -- If I go out -- I would go out completely -- Not even an LE -- I will just wait down the road and maybe get a good used one -- This is important that they listen -- IT MAKE NO SENSE -- IT IS TOTALLY FUNNY......

I WANT TO GET IN AND IN SOME WAYS I AM === BUT I AM NOT DRINKING THIS KOOL AID IF THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING ....I WILL TAKE A STAND AND I WILL BOYCOTT ALL TOGETHER -- THAT WILL BE THE WAY THAT I PROTEST.....

IF THEY LISTEN --- THEY WILL SELL MORE -- AND I WILL BE IN -- BUT .....

WILL THEY LISTEN???

Okay -- So I will be drinking the Kool Aid -- LOL -- Talked with Jack today ( I just could not wait and I sent an email on my views) and there is going to be more coming on the CE, Might be some minor stuff -- But more is coming-- from what I was told from Jen and Jack -- and it what they said is true and I am sure it is (unless upper management goes other direction) -- I AM IN.

I do not want to announce here because I really think that should come from JJP themselves. But I am in and my CE Number will be my favorite number #12. Which I have had on hold since the Expo launch. I will not hold Jack and Jen to their comments -- Bottom line is that I think it will take till March to really know all what is going to be in the CE Edition -- I think we need to give Jack and Others a chance to push the limits on getting all the comments and feedback and try to get as much as they can in for this amazing game.

I would like to make a request on the lunch -- Bone-In Ribeye.

Thanks to Jack for taking my call and really thanks to Jen for letting me vent for those few minutes.

No - I was on the fence -- I mean I had one locked in and was promised the #12 (which is my lucky number) from the start -- But when it was announced and then the price -- I was like okay...Why the increase and what are we getting for that -- I think now that the game is worth the price and if you can afford it - more power to those that can -- but for the value there is nothing wrong with the LE and most will go that way.

I guess I will be really curious on what the numbers will come out on the CE numbers -- I think in the 50 to 80's --- could be more if they make another announcement prior to 12/31 as I think there are some of those out there that are still on the fence.

LMAO -- Yes you did. Alot of emails and phone calls. This will go good with Emerald City WOZ and Smaug -- It will be there for those to enjoy from the public and friends and family.

Maybe I will have it before the Open House that we will be having for PINSIDERS -- Announcement to be coming soon.

I can see 100 Units being sold --- Just not 2,500 CE's

Please -- Please -- PLEASE dont let there be 2500 CE's -- LMAO

But -- If there was -- It would be ONE HELL of a Luncheon

7 Days and 11 hours and 30 minutes left.

That will be in two years......lol....just joking JJP.

Merry Christmas

I dont think they are being secret about it...my guess is that Jack wants this game to have much as possible...but there are others involve as well and there are some things that are going to be in the game or are in early talks.....i will say one thing that Jack said and i can kind feel the tension with him when he said it to me nicely...

If your in ....great....and if you dont like it when it comes time to deliver...then just back out and maybe use your deposit on the #4 game or get a refund.....i am sure someone will take it that will be on a list to get one or like Joe said some out there aill be selling their held backs foe like 13500 or 15000

I will be posting a few extra things that i hope they will put on for the ce edition

I am hopimg on the powder coating on the shooter housing and coin door and appron and bols...if not...i will be sendkng those out to be done....i will not like it...but i will.

I still say the topper should be a special toppper for the ce owners and they can make a different one for the LE and Standards.

I would love to see the side rails and the hinge to have some lazer cutting and have the side rail to have a speicial design or at least wrap or go over the flipper buttons. I THINK THOSE LOOK GREAT.

I love what Dino did for the KISS game and i bought a set and had Matt with Backalley powder coat the legs and coindoor and bolts and such and it looks amazing....but....

Whwn it got the product and was having it put together...I notice that my KIZZ appron was the same LE red....ooops...did not see that...lol

So now I have to send that over to Matt because it looks like shit.....lol

I am not saying that every game should be done like that....but i do see that on this one ...it should

And i hope the code is unique in some small way

Ohhhhh and yes Tomahawk Bone-In Ribeye for lunch with real potatoes and a warm roll and some soup and a cherry cheesecake for desert.

I agree...i dont think they will ever sell for that...but so.e might try....i know it will be limited....but there will be some for sell later for a lesser price to make room for other games

Look at AMH....made only 150 and u can still find some in the 6000 range and awesome shape....

I was shocked...amazed...and literally floored when i sold the ruby red woz and hobbit le first when i was raising maney for a charity auction and i had my second AMH that I was also selling for 6900 and it had powder coating..side mirrors and other mods...and it did not sell...i was amazed...but hey....that was good because I decided to keep it and it keeps me from not playing the #150 AMH and i know I will not sell that one and definitely not for what our company paid for it...but that was for charity and worth every penny.

Bottom line....its a good game and i think the CE is good for those out there that want those extras and willing to pay for it...but the DI LE is also a great buy...for 9000.

The one thing is that some dont care for toppers and Radcals and other stuff and for that the LE is a good choice or wait for a used one to hit the market...it wont take long.

I agree to a point on this...i just think the CE topper should be unique for the model...so if they have 100 sold...then there is 100 unique ones as well....its a collector edition so the extras like the backglass and design and stuff should.only be for the CE's.

Again JJP please do the side rails with a lazer etch and wrap around the flipper buttons. Hire Dino for this...I am sure he could come up with a design

Well said.....but still should get steak lunch

4 days and 15 minutes.

I would be okay to wait...i hope it is with finish code and no damage.

Not 100 percent sure now...I know what i was told...i just know that i am in and along for the ride.

23 hours 54 min left......

I agree some of the comments here on this post...u still think think has the potential to be a Outstanding game and the flow is just awesome

Just having fun.....
5 hours and 55 minutes

The suspense is killing me.....lol

Bet we wont know the true numbers

Any bets??

Oh....that is a good one.....hmmmmm

I was told that the lunch will be at a determine date...and itnis up to the ce buyers to get there....i would bet that it would be at the expo 2017 time frame

I am telling the truth...i dont give a shit about the lunch....just hoping game is well loaded....

And yes...you can back out if u change your mind...Jack sa I that to me on the phone and u could get the 1000.00 back or use it towards the next game.

But ...I know what some of u guys are thinking

Yeah...j know it is a joke...I just want to go up to Jack and upper management and say...Come on Guys.....but rhe game will be nice.....Lunch has no value.....

Unless I get my Bone-in Ribeye.....but.....

But it will be some like chicken buffet...Maybe KFC

3 hours 40 minutes left.........oh well...i think it will be close to 100

Just bullshit if they dont....but i agree it does not matter....just the point....we will see how this goes

I will have mine on display for those to play in the area and hope to have it before the big Open House...but in no hurry....just better not come damaged like the hobbit LE and Smaug did....

Still cant believe that they allowed those games to leave like they did...but hey....i got a t-shirt....lmao

You want to know what is Bullshit - We will probably not even really know the true number -- This was suppose to be announced. Everyone had to have their orders in and deposits paid by the 31st -- I know that Joe did that for me to make sure that mine was locked in before I even sent him my check, and he just so happen got my check on the 31st -- So what is the number?

It does not really matter to some extent -- But ...again it is JJP (and I am not saying that this is up to Jack) but JJP should have that number and it should be announced -- I think it really matters more to those that place their orders and we would like to know how many was sold for our own knowledge and what was the number - I am thinking about 80 to 100. I would say more than 30 for sure --

But I hope that JJP makes that announcement this week.

COME ON JJP!!!!

I KNEW THE DEADLINE WAS BULLSHIT -- I BET THAT IF SOMEONE REALLY WANTED TO GET ONE -- THEY WOULD KEEP INCREASING THE NUMBER -- NOT THAT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT TO SOME EXTENT -- BUT WHY EVEN BOTHER WITH THE DEADLINE AND THEN DO THE WHOLE COUNTDOWN TO THE 31st DEADLNE -- Then...

When it gets to the ball dropping -- BOOM. Not saying that they should have annouced it within that hour ...But ....Today -- Absolutely -- They should have the freakin stupid number. I don't care if it is 25 or 125 -- But there should be a number and it needs to be in the game plaque like #001 of 100 or 025 of 100.

How about if all of the Potential CE Owners decided to back out because of a lack of trust or we think that are playing games -- OUCH!!!
That would not surprise me at all.

There is alot about this game that I like and I know that I am paying way more that the value in the game -- It is not like this game is worth the price from a stand point of resale down the road. That is not why I bought this game -- I bought this game because it does play well, It will have most of the features included in the game -- I do not care about the lunch and the signed stuff will just sit inside the game and the quality of the game is really nice.

But I will tell you one thing -- YOU DO NOT WANT TO LOOSE YOUR CUSTOMERS TRUST .... and somebody in the JJP community better get their shit together and get a grip on that. These games need to leave the plant not damaged and not just boxed and shipped out -- I mean really ...Is there not someone that checks over the game before it gets boxed up? They need to keep to their promises or better yet -- DONT MAKE AN ANNOUCEMENT UNTIL YOU KNOW FOR 100% WHAT YOUR GOING TO PROMISE TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.

I know...I know...Maybe we are the stupid one to agree to something that is not 100% Complete or even the back glass or artwork is not even complete. But that is where our trust comes into play with JJP -- I trust them to deliver a great product, As I do feel others do as well.

All I ask in return is ...Keep to your promises...Keep making a great product (quit cutting corners and going the cheap way), Strive to be better and stand out from the rest. If you don't -- You will loose my trust and once you do that -- You will loose my future business.

Very good question and your are 100% right -- This game will be the make or break with me and JJP. The topper should be exclusive CE owners and yes from what I have be told -- There will be one for the CE owners that will only be made for them exclusive -- and yes that played a role in some small part because it showed me that they are willing to listen to some of our concerns

Now ....Will that happen or will they decide to just make one Topper and then sell that topper to others to add to their LE Models -- I dont know -- I can only go by what I was told -- Now if they take back and dont deliver on their promise -- Then so be it. But they will break that trust in me and I will be done in buying NIB games from JJP. Maybe they wont care -- What is one person less....buying a NIB game?

To me it means alot -- You want to keep those customers -- all I am saying is that I hope they keep their promise -- But we will see? I know things can change and it has in the past.

I am fortunate that I can buy this game and I hope they deliver on some of the items that they would say would be in the game.

I agree with what you are saying -- I just wanted this post to be about the CE model and I wanted to post my comments -- I had the #12 locked in from the start -- BUT...JOE will even agreed to this -- I have always been on the bubble and have made it very clear with him that I wanted to see where JJP was going with the extras -- It was up to the last week that I decided that I was 100% in after my talk with Jack and Jen and Jack made it clear that the shooter housing and coin box would be powder coated and that the CE topper would be exclusive to the CE Owners and any other topper would be a different style. I agree with that 100% and that was what made me 100% in becasue I have said that from the start that the Coin Door and shooter housing should be powder coated -- SHIT ...Even the LE Models should be done - in regards to powder coating -- But hey... if they don't -- I guess Matt with Back Alley will just be making more money off of me ( I have been keeping him busy here lately)

But Yes the the other items and the what I was told -- I was in -- I dont give a shit about the chicken dinner or lunch or the Expo preview of #4 game. That has NO VALUE to this game. It is just a bonus -- to some that will not even matter because they will not be able to get to the lunch or maybe they don't go the the expo so it will not matter to those that do not use it.

I would be out -- 100% -- Not even a JOKE. I don't care if I lost the deposit. Take that shit to the bank and watch me.

I can understand to a small extent that they need to tally the numbers -- but TRUST ME that have been keeping a count. But if that is not made clear on the the game and if they don't make the announcement on the numbers sold soon (hope to hear by the end of the month, Clearly that should be enough time, I mean come on....Really?)

Keep my deposit -- I will take a stance.

I agree and this game is going to be the Make or Break with me.

Suppose to be Exclusive,,,,

Would I be pist if it was not???

HELL YES!!! -- That is the WHOLE FREAKIN POINT OF THE CE MODEL

Will it happen like I was told?? - I don't know....But time will tell.

HEY...HEY...!!!!

You forgot the Chicken Lunch Buffet!!!!!

AGAIN -- I WOULD BE PIST....!!!!

To that point that I would never EVER buy from them again - There is NO reason to sell that to others -- YES ...Maybe to make money...But Trust Me they will lose more in the end.

You know this brings me to SPOOKY PINBALL -- when he clearly could have make more buying selling more Rob Zombie in the beginning when there was a list being made and it was going clearly well past 300 and with 50 of those being LE's

He said NO...I contracted to sell 300 and we are only going to sell 300 and move on the the next BIG thing.

Got to love that man.

Okay....Okay......

I am breathing ....Whoa.....This is nice to take small breaths...

Okay...Feel better now,....

I love Pinside -- Awesome Community

I agree on Lawler is great -- More about that -- But time will tell.

I love this one...lol.

I agree -- But I am sorry guys I need to ask the question directly to JJP tommorrow. I dont think they are open now at 10:00 pm -- So it will have to wait till tomorrow.

Okay -- Boy this is getting good.

Glad that JJP is going to have a number set to these CE Model -- This is more than I thought -- I really dont think that they had more than 100 but ....With that said it is still a low number even at 150.

But --- SHAME ...SHAME on JJP to even think that we idiots -- This whole deadline was a JOKE -- ONE BIG F(*%$!* JOKE -- To Me it was a way to test the market and see how many they would get interested and then they BUMP the number to allow those to get in (Which I am fine -- Because they really dont have images / and the final stuff figured out completely -- So those that might be on the bubble and are not aware of the Powder Coating of the Coin Box and Shooter housing (which is minor) or the Custom CE Topper that will be exlusive to the CE Owners (which was a good selling point for me to make me say that was worth it along with the other stuff that was mentioned in writing) and hopefully maybe some other items. Those people can get in for a DI CE and not have to pay above (hopefully) a higher price of 12,500.00.

So -- With that said -- Next Time....

JUST PICK A LOW NUMBER THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO MAKE AND STICK WITH IT AND QUIT WITH ALL THESE GAMES.....

But ... I am still holding them to what was told to me and what made me make that final decision and I have no reason to think that JACK or JEN would lie to me just to make a sale.....But if it does not happen -- I will just back out and someone else can have my low number of #12.

Stick to your word....This is a great game from a good company -- It is 12,500.00,,, that is alot for a pinball machine -- But if you deliver on your word....To Me....It is worth it and I will be happy.

I 100% Agree -- I am not against that -- Just was a lie one what JACK said -- But if the number was close, I could see them rounding it up -- Just make me sad that again JJP is not keeping to their word and there is NO WAY ....NO WAY that all 150 games are sold to collectors like me and others -- But I do hope that he sells them ...

But I will bet that come Mid 2018 that you could still go to Joe or Mike or anyone and ask for a DI CE and there will be one for sale...They are NOT all spoken for ...Take that to the bank.

Its not a problem -- Just that JACK made it very clear -- SET NUMBER SOLD on the deadline date and that would be it..."WHEN THE BALL DROPS ...That is It" I am fine with what he said - at least we got a number -- I would bet that would not change (at least not for now -- You never know with JJP, They might come back and change their minds and say that it is 200 or 250) - Clearly still a Limited Number -- Just this whole think with LE's (with them be too high in numbers) just think that they should just go ahead and set the number to be sold in the future and not do this whole silly deadline thing -- Show the game completed with all the trim and bells / and other goodies and Say "Here it is -- Who wants one?"

Trust me this game is not going to be hot off the line in regards to the DI CE -- I do not think that there are going to be many distributors or collectors that are going to buy this game and sit on it and see if they can charge 15,000 or more.

But back to your question...

No Problem....I am cool - Got the number and now lets move on and see what happens next.

I agree -- Just upset with the games and the lies -- that is what is bothering me the most - Why all of this -- It is taking the fun out and I am about just done -- JJP is on a very thin rope with me from here on out -- I guess we will see what happens and if they are going to deliver on what they said -- If not -- I am out and will ask for my deposit back and give up my slot and move on.

I agree -- Just upset with the games and the lies -- that is what is bothering me the most - Why all of this -- It is taking the fun out and I am about just done -- JJP is on a very thin rope with me from here on out -- I guess we will see what happens and if they are going to deliver on what they said -- If not -- I am out and will ask for my deposit back and give up my slot and move on.

Wow....Its been almost 2 weeks since the last post...Has there no new stuff to talk about on the DI CE ???

Has there been more updates or more info for the CE Models.....Just curious.....been kind of dead here lately.

I guess I will post it when i hear more...its like all the air is out and have not heard any more in regards to the options on the CE.....they were to annouced the final details by now....maybe that is coming...Hope so before they start making them...we will see

I will tell u this much right now...That better be wrong on the Radcals....that is suppose to be included as part of the CE's. In fact the CE's should not have to pay extra for anything...including the powdercoating of the shooter housing..coin box and etc. I was told that the powdercoating of the coin door and shooter housing and all was going to be part of the DI CE. But I just saw that link on the RadCals...that better be wrong or I am out....not even joking. I will be out in a heart beat. THIS BETTER BE WRONG. And its not about saying yeah those that can afford the DI CE can fork out anothet 400.00...its about making this one unique and special and to includes all the features and trim and such.

MAN...I AM PIST....CAN THIS BE CONFIRMED?

JJP ARE U SEEING MY POST...IF THIS IS TRUE....I AM OUT AND WANT REFUND.....

Yeah...but not to charge 400.00 extra for Radcals.....that is bullshit.

BULLSHIT....WTF......Can this be confirmed. I need to find out about this shit....

Stay tuned...making some freakin calls right now.

Not funny....Its BULLSHIT. Radcals are to be part of the package for CE's....This will not fly with me and other CE's owners I would hope would agree......If this is for real...I am out...and so.eone can take my place if they want...either way I will be out on this game......because that is bullshit.

Lmao....man i have been too busy....i thought they might have took that out to make more money. Thanks for that....lol

SORRY ALL FOR MY BURST...LOL

Lol...but if it was true...i would
Be out...but that is just me. This think is expensive enough.

Its too much plumbing...i think its the glue.

I know...i am sorry Joe.....I just saw that link...and I was like....WTF. I feel much better now....but you got to agree.....if that was true....I would have a good point.

Okay...i am going back to my plumbing.

Okay...i am calm now. Glad u got a quick laugh out of it....just had me going there.....BUT....

For the record...I did call u first.....just could not hold it in any longer....Had to vent......

Lmao...i was looking back at my recent posts.....Man I was pist...lol. Okay...sorry again

Yeah...i am sorry...I was freakin pist. I just got back home from long day and got the family some MOE'S food to eat and I saw that link and I was like....WTF...Called Joe...and he did not answered left him a voice mail and quick text and rest....

Well.....

Is all posted here...lmao

I am not saying shit for the next month.....I have learned my lesson.

I am not saying shit...but I do agree this this post. I am leaving at that...because I dont want to get in trouble.

Yes...but for the record...i never said that they would cost extra. I thought they were until Insaw that link and I was like WTF.

Now...I do feel better and need to take a break...I am hoping that JJP deliver on their promises and we will see in the end. This is very important and it will make a big difference for other future CE's if there will be any. My thing will be the powder coating and I hope they dont drop the ball on that one. It needs to be in there for the CE's. Game will be nice and I am not in any hurry...the later the better for me. I say August they will be start being delivered.

YES FOLKS...I SAID IT....AUGUST

Okay and for the lunch or dinner....Bone-In Ribeye.....But we all know it will be some kind of chicken.

Sorry Joe....had to comment just a bit there.

Sooo.....What does that mean -- I dont even get my whole F#&%$!) name on my 2500.00 Jacket -- Because I know that F#&%$!) dinner is not going to be steak. This is crazy -- R u messing with me.

I mean come on -- Its like putting my name "Rich" instead of "Richard" just to save 3 freakin letters......

Okay -- I know it is TPF weekend and I wish I was there so maybe try to get the latest from Jack -- Wait -- That is right the POWERS TO BE -- are making the decisions now ..... So I can not blame Jack.

Well -- Again I was just asking for a Bone-In Ribeye. -- I am still confused -- But game is going to be nice, just still curious about a couple items that I was told would be on the game or unique to the game and still no confirmation -- Oh well.

JOE -- CAN I GET "RICHIE WRENCH" on my JACKET or will that be considered an UP CHARGE?????

I AM BACK -- Just confused on the $2500.00 Jacket -- I wonder what the design is going to be like and is it just a print -- Wait what I am saying - -WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT THE JACKET -- -- I can see it now - It be like all of us that get the game before the EXPO to show up like the HELLS ANGELS --

Really don't want to talk about the Jacket -- I think JOE is messing with me. Jacket should be worth the money - Hopefully MADE IN AMERICA Jacket...Hmmmm

Kind of calm for the moment -- I dont think JJP would would take short cuts on the letters of the names of the individuals just to save a few pennies.

COME ON....I AM NOT THAT BAD ON THIS TOPIC..

AM I?????

what did i cap.......??

okay.....okay.....okay....

maybe a few......

I guess i am going to have to make a call to Jen and Jack to see if what they said is going to happen on the DI CE games. Have not heard anything and enough time has past. Hope to update in next day or so.