A $5,500 rebate.

Have you talked to Jack and given him your thoughts ? He might be receptive to WOW ideas.

LTG : )

The CE is for those who want the best of the best (in regards to this game) and price is no obstacle. If you looking to add up $3500 worth of extra features compared to the LE its not going to happen. If you have the money and thats what you want go for it.

Nothing. And I'm not sure why you're so in on it when you don't know the answer to this question.

Fancy Pants Checklist:

Use nicer wood for the cabinet.

Customized apron that can lightup in sync with the game.

Powder coat or chrome everything - the habitrails, coinbox, bolts, screws, mechanisms, ball rails. Have options for chrome, black, brass, or a "quantum haze" color.

A topper with an led stock ticker thingy that interacts with the phone app and lets you post customized messages. Could also show scores and game info during gameplay.

Clear coat or plus in someway the in-game toys like the drones, robot lady, subway station.

Fiber optic light show on the backglass, coindoor, cabinet, or anywhere it might look awesome.

That sounds like $2k or more in extra shit.

But there needs to be something really special besides just rarity for JJP to sell more than a just a few of these. Has to look gorgeous but also have a feature or two unique to the code or game play.

there will be nothing to make the collectors edition worth 3500 more. Why? Because people are willing to pay the price regardless of wether or not they know it'll be worth it. Case in point.

It has an exclusive in-game video of Jack doing a series of cartwheels wearing nothing but a ruby red Speedo.

I think LTG comes to your house to replace any bulbs for the first month.

Without having a set number to sell is really a head scratcher?
Limited seems meaningless.

It seems like there is a collectible war going on with new titles now that did not used to exist and to me it makes no sense. Limited edition of 200 tops with a few extras or maybe just art.

With this JJP CE as example.
You are pre paying to play 12500 games at 1$ per play. Oh wait your a collector i forgot you guys don't even open the box.
But if you did, it's like your paying $6.25 for about 2000 games that will take you about ten years to get done.

Operators are having to pay way to much now and the return on investment for money making coin op equipment is going to end up sinking the ship. The ship being the whole industry.

The truth is support them if you can and buy the best, but if your looking for it to make sense sorry I got nothing it dont make sense to me.

Operators can still buy Stern titles also.

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I want a LE for 7k !!!

It's not even limited!

You only get to find out ( maybe ) how many people have bought one after 31st Dec.

I see nothing that would make me want one over the LE, even if my lotto numbers come up this week...

Believe me it's limited by the sheer cost, although I get your point.

"I don't think they will sell very many of this version."

- Captain Obvious (2016)

the "wow" is after spending that much they still charge you $150 for a playfield protector. Truly an honor to own a CE

You get a signed comic book! Isn't jacks signature worth $3500?

Yeah, I mean, looking at that matrix you get $250 worth of stuff going from a standard to an LE for a $1k up-charge (invisiglass being the biggest thing). Then about $400 worth of extra stuff going from a LE to a CE for a $3,500 up-charge. (rad decals???)

You are not getting that extra value in anything tangible on the game; but what you are getting, apparently, is the bragging rights to say you have an LE or CE. If all the mechanics and game play are there, what's the point to get anything but the standard? Added bling?

Wow, the 8k version doesnt come with the comic book? How much is that add on??

The "price" printed on the comic is $3.99, but you can probably get one for free, if you ask the company nicely. They handed them out for free to people who attended the reveal at EXPO, so they probably consider it a promotional item.

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I'd gladly do that.

LTG : )
Disclaimer : Glad they ain't bulbs but are LEDs

This ain't gonna pencil out--if it were me I'd dial it back to a Limited and save the cash...

Many of the pinside community don't believe the LE is worth $9K. So in reality your paying $5,000+ more for the CE. You must have money burning a hole in your pocket. You want one, but you don't even know what one is. No offense I thought this was a troll post at first.

I'd email Jack at [email protected]. He gets back to me quickly on questions regarding Dialed In.

Did Jack say something about the Collectors editions shipping before the end of this year or did I miss hear that? Maybe that's the biggest reason to buy one?

Nothing is shipping by the end of the year. We'll be lucky to see these being built in 2017.

Should be starting in April 2017, if not before.

LTG : )

Collectors editions will be for sale until 12/31/2016. A $1000 deposit will secure your spot. However many machines have deposits on New Years Eve 2016 is the number of machines (collectors edition) that will be made.

Announcements coming in the next couple of weeks on what will be different from the collectors edition compared to the limited edition.

if anyone is thinking about getting one (standard, limited, collectors), let me know. also, if you are an Illinois resident and order directly through JJP, they (JJP) are required to collect sales tax as they have an office in Chicago. If you order through a neighboring state distributor (KingPin (me), Pincades, Pinball Company), then we are not required to collect the sales tax (although you are supposed to declare it on your taxes).

$250 deposit on standard edition
$250 deposit on limited edition
$1000 deposit on collectors edition

all deposits are fully refundable up until the machine is on the assembly line.

production scheduled to begin 2q of 2017

call, pm, or email with other questions as to not clog up this thread.

Christopher
KingPin Games
608-393-2299 cell
[email protected]

Sure glad they got rid of the pre-order model, otherwise people would have to put down a deposit before a deadline without really knowing what was in the game being ordered.

"Should" is the key word in your reply. The jjp track record ain't so good. Hopefully joe got things turned around.

That is the plan. Hobbits are rollin for now.

Yeah, those days when limited meant limited are long gone.

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Whatever differentiates the CE has got to be something that can't be sourced later and added on to an LE to make it comparable.

I sprung for my Tron LE because of the additional in-game features - those features not being merely cosmetic in nature, but truly differentiating gameplay. Chrome armor aside, it wasn't about the bling at all. OK, OK, IDK if the moving recognizer is cosmetic of not... but you get the point I'm trying to make here. That's how it must be in this case too, to get my attention.

If Jack really wanted to drive up LE sales, he'd have a hard deadline to get those people their games FIRST. Order by New Years, get the game by May 1st

There is nothing collectible about this ce, a few cosmetic upgrades...who cares.

The ce will not be a desired edition in years to come and there's no way it can hold its value.

It's purely for suckers who don't even know why they want it, no offense.

Agreed, gameplay will be identical like all JJP machines.

^^^^^^^

And its probably the most ridiculous "limited" offering ever. Let's see how many people will sign up before 12/31.

Why? Pure greed and nonsense. IF we were able to sell 150 of these CE's to people and we put a limit of 100 on them then wtf we just left a ton of money on the table.

That's the mentality! The fact that they set no number is the reason they won't sell squat of this grossly overpriced offering.

Better hurry for the 2500 LE's before they sell out.

How can you be that disconnected to the hobby you are trying to sell to?

Begging to make a 12,500 game good??? The plumbing biz must be very good to you.

Not everyone has a collector's mentality. Some people do, though...

http://www.pinballnews.com/news/sternhires2.html

Hmm... Topps Trading Cards... where have I heard that term recently?

http://www.topps.com