Did they release the pics of the collectors edition yet so you can see just what you are getting with it guys? Does it have different artwork at all?

If they sell enough, it makes them "Smart" businessman, doesnt it?

I'm going to have to play this one first before I buy and even then it would be the cheaper version. If JJP would come up with a band based game I'd send my money now - even do the "WOZ wait" again.

That just about nails it. There is more chance of aliens landing that anyone paying $12501 for one of these. The theme will see to that even if it's a very rare game.

I am very supportive of LEs, Boutiques and CEs, but it is really hard to understand selling a game without a set feature list. I figured for sure they would have this ironed out before the window closes on Dec 31???

It is crazy.

I also think it's crazy that quite a few Ghostbusters premiums went out with autographed playfields and LE aprons/score cards. I have a GBLE, and I don't really care that people got LE features on their game, but it's a bit lame that some of those extras you pay for end up being carelessly added to cheaper versions of the game.

With two days left how many here have sent in their deposits for a DI CE? And out of those how many know exactly what they will be getting?

Inquiring minds want to know.

A fan of JJP and given they are the true pioneers of premium pinball, they might consider extending the deadline to be absolutely clear on the CE to their target market.

Btw- something pretty basic like a playfield protector for the highest end model should be standard.
Silly stuff.

I upgraded from LE to CE today.

I ordered an le and blew 3500 in a gogo bar today!!!

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Are the CE's going to be the first off the line?

That's a good question. I don't know for sure. Anybody?

For those thinking about the Collector's Edition, JJP just posted a short video on Facebook, said they were approaching 100 CEs sold and talked about some of the features:

https://www.facebook.com/JerseyJackPinball/videos/1390283667656892/

Gotta love the Op bashing Stern for "same old same old"

Does "approaching 100" mean 50 "ish"?

This one will be really really limited because its just a deposit that can be switched out later. Guessing 30-40 actually get built.

The only thing I saw that you got additional with the CE here was being able to customize the Fox News cable banner scroll at the bottom to say what you wanted it to say.

This is tough. Tough I tell ya. I'll take the "over" on 70

Wrong...on CE no Changing machines up or down and $1000 is non-refundable after tomorrow night is what I was told!

You sure about that? per Jack

This is the feature list, no?

http://www.jerseyjackpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/DI-Game-Comparison.pdf

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I hope that is true. It would be awesome for pinball if JJP was able to sell close to 100 CEs of dialed in. What wonderful news for the health of our hobby that would be.

Well I got an email today to make sure I was for sure in on CE and it said that in the email.....not from Jack....

Congrats to all upcoming Dialed In CE owners! Exciting times are just around the corner!

Speaking of code, it has been updated, not sure how much more is complete, but if you watch today's video you'll see new things and hear them mention the update.

Spot on. $3500 gets you:
- Purple instead of Blue armor (Personally I prefer the blue but whatever)
- Laser cut side armor (? haven't seen it yet)
- Topper (? haven't seen it yet)
- Mirrored back panel (? not sure what this is)
- "Collector" plaque with 3 signatures on it
- "Special" backglass (? Haven't seen it yet)
- Misc: A jacket, lunch with Jack and Pat (if you go to their office), a different splash screen or something on the monitor, your comic book is signed by Jack

Basically, these seem like very minor cosmetic things that are on par with the differences between a Stern's Premium and their LE. Only, the price difference here is $3500 instead of $1000-1500! Insane, but apparently there are almost 100 people who either have money to throw away or they just got caught up chasing what they think is the next BBB or Tron LE. I'm glad I'm past those days. The even funnier thing is that JJP decided on the $3500 price increase before they ever even completed the above list of features much less actually designed the features (like the armor etching, topper, etc.)!! Like it was just arbitrary to see who would throw money at anything just to say they have the ultimate model.

You said Jack told you that right?

Anyhow, nothing is certain in JJP land. Ever.

One more question that crossed my mind. The $12,500 price tag appears to be firm. Has anyone checked on the $9,000 price tag for the LE? Do distributors have room to come down off of that price? If so, the difference for the CE model could be even more than $3500.

Truth! Next expo they'll be announcing the SCE (Super Collectible Edition).

Wait for the Ruby Red DI edition, its coming.

So let's see if I can follow this thought process... the prevailing theory is that the CE version of DI is little more than a cash grab and that it would be insane to spend that much money on a game that can't possibly hold its value (I'm not saying this is entirely off base I'm just going with it). Obviously most folks who might be inclined to order a DI would order the LE version anyway but let's stay with the CE for now. Here you are suggesting that JJP will come along at Expo 2017 and offer a super CE (I guess trying to draw a parallel between the Ruby WOZ and the Black Arrow Hobbit which came along after the initial game offering). The thing is, wouldn't they have to price the super CE at an even more outlandish price to make it that much more collectible, thus defeating the purpose? Take the Black Arrow Hobbit for example: it came out at roughly the same price as the other versions were priced, and thus there is really no incentive to switch away from an LE or a Smaug Gold Edition should you have one of those already. The Smaug version used the "only available until New Years Eve gimmick" if you want to call it that and it sold very well (a subjective term but irrelevant here). When the BA version launched, the Standard and LE Hobbit were and are still in production and were and are still available (the Smaug is not unless you can find one NIB from a distributor; the factory stuck to the policy of 12/31/15 order cutoff). So you can buy the BA if you want but almost everybody wants the LE and therefore when Hobbit is out of production, the LE will be the best selling version of the game as it has been all along. I know of two people who switched to a BA rather than take their LE as at that point their LE had not shipped, but the bottom line is that the LE is the most popular version of the game and that isn't going to change before the production run finishes.
So I guess what I'm saying here is, at Expo 2016 when DI was launched, Jack announced only the CE and the LE versions, brought flyers to hand out for only the CE and LE versions but he knew full well that the standard version was coming, made no secret of the fact that the standard was coming and that it would cost less than the LE. A week or so later the standard was officially announced. So there are your three DI versions. The CE is what it is but again, as with Hobbit, the LE will be the popular and best selling version (thus belying the name Limited Edition but that's another topic). Will Standard DIs sell? Sure, some. Hobbit standards sold but not very many. WOZ standards sold very well but remember that the ECLEs sold all 1000 long before production started so those coming to the party had to order the standard version until the Ruby Red 75th came along. And here's the rub and I remember it well: when the RRWOZ was announced, the backlash from the ECLE folks was talked about (it was talked about far more than anything that happened but that's another matter) but at the end of the day (which hasn't come yet truly as WOZ is still in production today and will be in 2017), the ECLE 1000 units will still be more collectible if the only criterion is scarcity, as the RR version will outsell the ECLE by many hundred units if not more when all is said and done.
So if I can remember my point, I believe it was that I don't buy your theory of a super CE version coming later.

I think you had a whole bunch of points gobbled together here, lol. I'm gonna have to re-read it a few times. BUT, I'll just say that I only meant there is a great chance JJP will come out with another "collector" type edition in the future, period. Price is irrelevant even if it's the same as this CE. Point is, nobody should feel this is their last or only chance at getting a "collector" edition of this game. Jack will just create a new one in the future to try and stoke more sales so just don't get yourself caught up in the frenzy of now.

Gotcha.

I think not only does it have the potential to be but from everything I've heard it already is. Really looking forward to playing it first opportunity I get.

Have you listened to the latest episode of WWOP? Towards the end there is a fairly interesting discussion on DI.

Until JJP offers the SDDCE (Super Duper Deluxe Collector's Edition) after the pre orders do not sell enough games at the cut off timeline?
(This edition allows a buyer to submit their personal photo and put their own face on the cabinet artwork holding the cell phone)

People should be more concerned about the health of the industry, not hobby, as it is not exclusively measured by CE sales, but sales to ALL venues of usage. Operators are not budging, they are balking.

Maybe the CE Purpose was controversy, it succeeded.
and to bring the attention to selling more LE.

If that works, then they can go back, and create another "upper level" model.

One has to wonder if Batman, Dialed in, and Aliens were all loaded at $5995 out the door, how
all the discussions would change.

I knew there was a reason I liked you.

what is the 3-d interactive projected image and how does it work?Thanks

Same peppers ghost illusion gimmick that ghostbusters ecto goggles uses.

It's either 78 or 42

Do the distributers that bought multiple CEs get multiple lunches with Pat Lawler ? Or will those be arranged later when their CE are sold?

I interpret it as they get multiple lunch orders on one occasion. I'd go for the lobster

Please tell me this is sarcasm.

Yeah, serious question . Might be a real pain for JJP to deal with later . If someone were to buy a CE from a distributer later on for the same price I would believe they are owed that lunch .At what point does Pat just get sick of trying to schedual lunches with CE buyers ? And will someone's expirience be tainted if Pat is not in a good mood when he has to do lunch with a buyer ? Offering lunch with a designer is not only a joke , but could also end up being a nightmare to JJP . Think about it if 100 CEs are sold , 100 people are thinking they are owed some sort of special treatment from Pat , Pat might disagree . Not saying Pat would treat someone poorly but it is difficult to put a price on something like that , as JJP is trying to do.

Two or three different date buffets and call it a day.

Ill conceived from day one.

No CE#s, although I think he was initially serious about the 2500, no final feature list, just buy it and we will figure it out

CE buyers have no idea how many "collectibles" there will be