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Jjp 4- pirates of the Caribbean

By Georgeh

6 years ago


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Post #1932 Text from game flyer Posted by sevenrites (6 years ago)

Post #1973 Slide from presentation about code depth Posted by trunchbull (6 years ago)

Post #2036 Feature matrix and game photos side by side Posted by Guinnesstime (6 years ago)

Post #2066 Close up of animated topper Posted by cavalier88z24 (6 years ago)

Post #2075 Barnacle armor photos Posted by cavalier88z24 (6 years ago)

Post #2086 Close up photos of the playfield Posted by cavalier88z24 (6 years ago)

Post #2087 More close up photos Posted by cavalier88z24 (6 years ago)

Post #2099 Close up of screen on apron Posted by cavalier88z24 (6 years ago)

Post #2223 YouTube link for reveal stream Posted by KevInBuffalo (6 years ago)


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#703 6 years ago

Anyone know How much does a licensed theme add to a games cost? I'm sure the price varies on title and assets used, but with the limited number of these pinball machines made, it seems like a relatively small amount amount of money for a studio, and more of a promotional item that helps drive movie rentals and other licensed items. I'm thinking $100 per game x 3000 games = $300k. Maybe double that at best? Minus a license company percentage, percentage an actor or producer may have, and legal fees.

#706 6 years ago

That's interesting about the $20 a game... Even if it's doubled since then, that's so little money, Based on the low volume of games sold. Maybe the next trend will be to license Beats audio speakers..... Lol

But actually there is new audio technology that beams sounds in a very narrow field. That would be useful when many machines are being played in close proximity.

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#709 6 years ago

So with About 30 days to go before JJp4 is supposed to be unveiled, does anyone have more info on this game or heavens forbid actually played it?

One of the things I don't know if anyone has brought up - actually a negative, is that these licenced movie themes seem to require that existing photo/artwork be used. At least DI has original hand drawn artwork.

I'm not too excited about a potc theme but JJP builds such nice playing machines I want to see what Potc looks like before committing to buying a DI.

#731 6 years ago

Bea Arthur call outs? Where can I pre order? This will be the best back glass ever.

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#738 6 years ago

What playfield toys will be included on this new golden girls theme? Will one of the modes be "hot flashes?"

Hopefully some "pin up" type animation will be included as well!

#810 6 years ago

While pirates doesn't appeal to me either, let's not forget how many people were shockingly disappointed with DI's theme before actually seeing and playing it.

I want a JJP game and and am holding off on DI just to see how #4 is.

#832 6 years ago

Kingpin?

Does it have flippers?

is there a playfield or does it utilize anti gravity technology gleaned from the hadron collider to levitate balls?

Have they replaced Bluetooth iPhone flipper capability with remote thought based touch free flippers?

Is the display VR or at least 4K HDR?

Do the legs use magnetic repulsion auto leveling with variable tilt based on game play?

Narrow dispersion speaker system for silent play in arcades? Maybe at least Dolby Atmos?

Self repairing playfield for wear/ball swirl using nanotec surfaces?

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#1021 6 years ago

Just last night I saw a delorean with all the BTTF add ons, the license plate and the driver dressed as the Doc driving over the 59th street bridge here in NY.

I took it as sign that this will be the next JJP.

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#1087 6 years ago

I found the local guy with the BTTF modded out Delorean I mentioned in a previous post. After hitting 88 mph on the 59th st bridge, we have already seen the live stream reveal of JJp4. Due to a potential rift in the space/time continuem (that might cause the game to never be released or worse, Kim Jong-Un to be the next host of Apprentice) all I can reveal is that I placed my pre order (and I wasn't even #1 on the list - I think Richey Wrench was!!!). The reveal went well except slightly embarrassing for Jack was that the facial recognition ball launch mechanism didn't work on the machine as intended, and they had to wheel out a second pin to highlight the "feature".

#1227 6 years ago

I'm hoping they found a way to get a larger LCD screen in there because 27" is just so 2015.

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#1280 6 years ago

There would have to be a hell of a lot of used DI'S on the market to satisfy demand. So many people have mentioned they want to buy One. That would be amazing if jjp4 turned out not to be potc - Maybe it's POTUS? Lots of call outs!!!

#1352 6 years ago

A few hours after I check and there were like 60 new messages on this thread, and folks planning watching events around the new game. I can't imagine what outsiders would think of the excitement over a new pinball machine by grown men and women. (Of course I'll be watching myself).

It's great reading (also heard in a interview a while back) Eric's background and rich history with pinball. Seems he's surrounded by a great team and had some feedback from one of the greats.

I'm sure we'll be seeing fantastic designs from him for many decades to come.

#2221 6 years ago

I missed the stream - it isn't available on twich - anyone know where I can see it?

#2274 6 years ago

I just watched most of the twitch replay. I am completely blown away! I can't even imagine how amazing the next game will be since they keep raising the bar on every new release.

I really wanted a DI but just had a feeling I should wait to see what #4 was like before ordering - I'm glad I got a classic (TAF) to hold me over until pirates is released.

I really liked that you could steal balls from opponents, but The only thing I would have lived to see is online game play competition with others using the camera (or another plug in cam) so you can see the others players playfield. I also would like to see them use the Bluetooth function for innovation features.

I do hope they come up with a cool interaction with the camera like a next level scratch off from DI.

My only comment is The cabinet side art doesn't look that interesting.

#2721 6 years ago

I totally agree that the side cabinet artwork is the weakest part. Perhaps someone can come up with a cabinet protector that looks like deck wood from an old ship to look better and a block UV fade.

#2737 6 years ago

plung's point was that the end consumer pay $100 to have the material in home so that should add a similar price to the pin to let the consumer have access to it.

While a good point, the amount of dvd/bluray/music is massive compared to the amount of pins sold.

In an old Gary Stern interview it was stated the license adds 5-7% to the cost.

#2759 6 years ago

Too bad Johnny Depp doesn't have a brother... LOL

No one has seemed to answer is there a pinball browser like program that works with JJP?

#2811 6 years ago

I have posted this several times but I'll say it again. According to an interview I saw, woz was being sold at $6500 at introduction At A LOSS! This is a technique used sometimes in real estate to prime the pump and get customers and a reputation. I believe some game platforms have been sold at cost or less because they will make it up selling games.

JJP needs to actually make a profit.

They are in the business of building high end games and their stated goal is to build the best games possible, not sell games that are reasonably priced. It's obvious they keep pushing the state of the art and so their prices may continue to rise.

This complaint about pricing comes up frequently in my other hobby, high end audio. While there are many products there that make a JJP game look like pocket change by comparison, there are also many good values and lots of trickle down technology from the extremely expensive gear.

But one thing is that I've noticed in audio is that the pricing arguments become tiresome. There's systems from a thousand dollars to a million. It's just about finding the products that are in your price range, making wise choices and often (in audio) buying used. (Often at about half of retail). Pinball is the only consumer electronic I've ever seen that holds it value so well (which has its positive and negative aspects).

#2869 6 years ago

I just can't resist.... LE = Lemming Edition. (Which is what I'll probably order)

Anyone know if a prototype game will be in NYC? We're not that far from lakewood NJ.

Where was DI sent to?

#2875 6 years ago

Official rumor is that JJP9 is Sharknado. I'm sure all assets are available. (OK I started the rumor in the Sharknado thread)

I have actually put other actors into scenes from major films quite convincingly, using Greenscreen and other techniques. Maybe that's a way around some of the license issues.

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