Omg.... that is bullshit. Music is so important for this theme. certainly with movie themes, often music and theme belong to each other. Remove the music from alot of fantastic themes and you have nothing anymore. I was watching the potc twitch video and thought it looked nice, but i was missing something, cause i did not get the potc feeling, at all... and than i understood: where is the fucking music????

Unbelievable, really a dealbreaker for me. Just cannot believe those licenseholders, you cannot shoot Smaug in a pinballmachine, you only can use of the shitty aliens pictures not the great ones, themes get cut in half by removing music.... what is next? A James bond pinballmachine with the main character called Harry cause you cannot use the name James Bond?

As a pinballcompany i would never pay for such an empty license.

This will be a great pin... again... just great. Which is fine for many pinball machine costumers. But not for me, saving for that one holy grale pin. Great ain't enough for this kind of money for me personal, it needs to choke me when i see it, have a bad night of sleep cause i need to have it. It should be fricking super fantastic and mindblowing instead of just great.

JJP is getting closer and closer though. This ain't even his fault. Cause if you want a big licence, you have to deal with assholes. That is for sure.

It is even more painfull cause the iconic potc music is made by Tiësto, born in Breda, The Netherlands....

Start at 2 minuts, put the speakers wide open and get goosebumps within 1 minut. So sad this song aint in... ;-(

Ik denk dat ik Tijs eens een mailtje stuur of hij niet ervoor kan zorgen dat in ieder geval die track er in komt haha .

what a game and what a reveal, amazing all the way thru!

I dont care for the theme and the price is still a bit too high, I still think its a bit of a wierd choice for licence concidering stern already has a game out there on it.. but.. DAMN this game looks good!
Even the early code looks good!?

Hooray!! I finally made it to the last page of this thread after reading all of the comments on this pin.

I have to go pee.

I don't see this to negative, i mean have you played got ? that game's theme gets so anoying after a few games, i think it's great to get custom music and not just variations of the theme

True. But to be fair GOT does not have great music at all. Nobody but hardcore got fans will know it is GOT music when you put it on.

If you put on this pirate song, i think almost everybody instantly knows it is from POTC. Like the Jaws tune, music in The Godfather and Star wars. Etc You cannot leave out the music representing that kind of themes.

And it is not only this song. Like i said, the pirates singing yo ho should be in this game. And not some self made yoho song. It destroys a fantastic theme.

And something else... dont you guys worry there wont be many videoclips from the movie in the game? I loved that in the hobbit. Would be really a shame if they also cannot use that like in te hobbit.

Looks like JJP has done a fantastic job with the POTC theme. Kind of surprised they went with it though as we all know STERN has been there done that. This game looks loaded and should provide many hours of great game play. Just might have to take the plunge down the road at some point but right now just having dropped some serious coinage on an new AFMrSE (which is great by the way) I need to take a break from committing monies to purchase another pin...need to recharge the wallet if you know what I mean. Still enjoying my HobbitLE and WOZECLE among a few others. Game on!

Love the old school oulane/inlanes....but the whole sand bar/beach thing by the action button looks damn budget and i could do without it.

I would like to see both, the original music that's fitting in a pinball as well as custom music. Why not have the best of both worlds?

I just don't understand why these companies do not want their brand represented the best it can be.

I'd be quite surprised if Disney just flat out said "No." - I'm sure it more has to do with price. It makes no sense to withhold the music, but I'm sure there are extra costs involved.

I am sure your right.

To bad licensing wasn't all inclusive of all the IP with approval to make sure you are representing their brand vision.

Now you've gone too far! Game of Thrones theme song is amazing and never gets old.

Do wait...what the.... so when you tilt you lose your GAME on this? Sorry, I'm trying to get caught up and skimming through this thread as quickly as possible but man...

I don't know but Dialed in Carries over Tilt warning to the next ball....don;t know if that;s what is being talked aboot.

I mean it did till I turned it off..stupid shit.

JJPOTC displays tilt warnings per ball with LEDs under and to right of right flipper.

Seriously, how can this many people be excited for a game that’s just about a compass?!

Yeah, I'm enthusiastic that it's like a mashup of WoZ and Hobbit, which should be a great thing. Hobbit will remain JJP's weakest offering.

Will a tournament mode have the one character and the same modes for each player?

Should be called POTC4 or POTC5 depending on how many movies the game represents. Like Stern IJ4, that game represented the 4 Indy movies. There will be an IJ5.

There's a reason the show's music is able to tour around the country playing to sold-out arenas. It's fantastic.

Aye aye sir..... i went overboard, which fits this theme nicely i would say .

What does "tilt" mean?

I don't know what you guys are talking aboot

Is it when you slam your pin so hard the back legs pop off?

Because licensing, especially music licensing, is a hilarious and depressing clusterfuck. They had to negotiate rights for: having the music in the movie, releasing the movie on DVD/Bluray, broadcasting the movie on TV... and now for a pinball machine.

I think they probably told JJP how much it'd cost to add that to the license, and mutually decided not to!

Yeah I get it. Just seems they would fix it with future IP indeavors so it isn't such a cluster.

So you get 2 warnings to start, but if you use both in the first ball (for example), you will tilt that ball on next tilt. The next ball, no warnings left, first tilt loses that ball until the end of game. Not sure if there will be random awards for extra tilt warnings like in DI (and WOZ?). Hope so - love the creative use of tilt warnings. Next best award after extra ball.

It does? Wow, that explains some big WHAT THE F'ING F JUST HAPPENED moments on Dialed In for me... that IS stupid!

If loss of tilt warning carries over from ball to ball then it's about the most useless award ever. Instead of potentially getting 6 tilt warnings as has been traditional (2 per ball), you potentially only get 2 + whatever you randomly-mystery-get on your third ball? Screw that noise. Why build a pinball machine that's designed to not be played?

I mean tilt warning awards are a cool feature regardless. I wish they were used more often.

I'm with you, not a big fan of 2 tilts per game. Only good thing is it ads a bit more strategy tonhow you use them. But you can change it in the menu to a more traditional system that resets each ball.

No...it’s when you get sideways, and ALMOST spill the bourbon...not game related at all....

Tell me there’s no breathalyzer in this thing...might have to reconsider....

at thursdays reveal the game was set for 2 cumulative tilt warnings per game. in Erics first game [starting at the 47:00 mark], playing as player 1, he tilt warns on ball one, starts ball 2 with only one warning, tilt warns and tilts on ball 2, and starts ball 3 with no warnings left.

JJP software has always had a tilts per game or tilts per ball adjustable setting. It’s been in there since WOZ. Factory settings are usually tilt per game but it takes five seconds to change it.

Which might actually work if the tilt warning awards were frequent AND the outlanes on JJP games didn't tend to be RIDICULOUSLY HUGE...lol. They have yet to put out a single game where it felt like the outlanes were really 'fair' and I think their software features partially have made up for that with kickbacks and skillful ball saves. I fully support the skillful ball save, but they need to realize that at the same time, nudging is a skill, and tilt bobs are not always set 'fairly'. It's good the menu option is there, I'd definitely be using that if I had any say...

I never noticed it on WoZ, largely because trying to nudge to avoid anything except a STDM is just pointless...the outlanes are like 4x the size of anything considered "sane"....but see above. Hobbit...I assume I just haven't ever noticed it because frankly the game is way too open and easy, PLUS there's a kickback. So this is all news to me, and I bet even a majority of my local fellow tourney players don't know about this, and just assumed (as I did) that the bob was swinging like crazy and registered multiple hits.

I think the lack of videoclips is a HUGE plus right now -- feels more like a pinball machine than hobbit.
-mof

Disney doesn’t have the rights to much of the music to offer.

For anyone interested:

DEEP DIVE into Pirates of the Caribbean Pinball by JJP - Likes, Dislikes, Code, Features

http://thisweekinpinball.com/pirates-caribbean-deep-dive-likes-dislikes-code-features/

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"2. Collecting Gold
Needing to use the action button to collect gold could potentially get a little tiresome."

Again pressing a button on a button pressing game might be too much to handle. WTF

As would I but I don't want a standard and I don't have $13K+ for a LE. This hobby is getting out of control, living in Canada doesn't help.

almost 90% of the population is right handed.

What's being right or left handed have to do with the third flipper placement. It's not any harder to hit the left or right flipper on a two flipper game.

You win dumbest argument of the day.

Like the Star Wars tie fighter video mode, cool idea but just could eventually get a little annoying. Absolutely love the JJPOTC overall though.

Do the other 2 buttons get a little annoying?

Edit: it's also not a video mode

Comparing apples to oranges. The two other buttons correlate with ball movement. The lockdown bar button does not.

There's always tomorrow.

Jersey Jack used to be a distributor for Stern. He, JJ must have had butterflies in his stomach all this week, waiting for this reveal. JJ basically trumped Gary's King (Stern PoTC), with his new and improved Ace (JJP PoTC).

Pinball just keeps getting better!

Seems to like to setthe bar higher and higher each day. Lol

I thought the same, they need to tighten up that beach area

Great new POTC pin by JJP. Congrats and well done to Eric on his first machine. This game looks amazing.

I purchased a DICE and it is an unbelievable game -- great job Pat! I really like original themes and hope they do another one.

Also interested to see how Iron Maiden turns out if Stern makes that one. Its a great time for pinball. Just registered for TPF as well.

I listen to Zimmer's/Tiesto's "He's a Pirate" daily; oftentimes many times per day. It is one of the greatest songs ever by two of the greatest musical artists ever (Zimmer and Tiesto). I will place my JJPOTC pin next to my 7.1 surround theater and crank Zimmer's and Tiesto's masterpiece on repeat while I play it.

Having said that, it is very disappointing that the song will not be on the pin. Is it possible that many of the video rights also didn't make it onto the pin?

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limited to how many they can sell id imagine

Aww.... he looks so happy.... lol