Harry Potter would be great.....I think toy story would be great as well....TS and HP would get a different generation into pinball...my kids would love it....in my current collection TH is really the only theme they fully appreciate....

Toy Story is one of the best animated films of all time and I think would be a stellar pinball theme. The fact that the film references toys that many collectors would have owned during their own childhoods is an added bonus. Also the fact that many of us buy these expensive toys in order to fulfill some need to relive the simpler times of our youth ties directly into a central theme of the film itself. I think it could be magic if done with the approach that JJP is known for: pinball love first, then afterward profit (not the other way around).

So is JJP gonna make games strictly for children from now on?

I'm not detecting a change

I had actually changed the post from only to from now on.

I have zero issues with JJP wanting to be a family friendly lineup company. There are plenty of other companies and options for adult oriented games. The jjp lineup at this early point is already stellar, and if potc and toy story are next, that's one heck of great collection IMO. I do understand some guys not being interested in some of those Family themes, but again, other options exist thankfully.

Entirely family...broad market segment...smart on all accounts. So Yes I hope its a theme that would appeal to adults and kids.

What about dysfunctional families? Should they be left out?

Never....actually might help

I'm still hoping for a comprehensive Bond pin of all eras.

Bond would be a great pin....

I think it is smart. Higher end pins "usually" need buy-in from the spouse. If the kids (adult kids or young kids) are on board with getting the pin too, it is a easier sell for HUO. If the theme is also a baby boomer era theme it can attract more business on location. POTC, Toy Story, & Harry Potter fit that demographic. Toy Story & Harry Potter would be even more attractive because those themes have not been done before. However ... my wife & I never saw the Hobbit movie, we played the pin, loved it, highly entertained with the theatrical and mode intense game play. We bought the pin, then watched the movie and figured out some of the pin from the storyline. DI we did not care for the theme. It has grown on us as a really fun pin to play on location. Now the JJP #4 pin will determine if we wait for it, or get a DI ... and maybe a JJP 4 later. Can't wait to see the JJP #4 reveal.

I agree with this. I can respect a company that wants to be family oriented, and sticks with it even if someone complains about it. Imo, the themes they have done, along with the rumored licenses they have are all classic, timeless themes for the demographic age group that would have kids in the house still. The listed themes appeal to my age that grew up with these movies, and also appeals to our young kids. It's a great business model. I honestly look more forward to what a new jjp game will be vs any other companies release. I think that's due to the fact that jjp games are always packed, unique, and innovative. Also, the theme is usually something my whole family can relate to. I just expect jjp games to be great. I wish the price was more reasonable so I could get more, but I can understand the cost and value of what you're getting compared to other companies. You have no idea how much my family was hoping jjp would have gotten the SW license.

I think prior to actually playing DI I had it in my head that the theme wasn't great. I am sure it was due to reading all the negative comments. That being said the theme is actually refreshing, and great. I now have an LE in my collection with zero regrets. It might be the best JJP pin to date (and I have all 3)...IMO DI is first, TH 2nd, WOZ 3rd....but all great games. I'm hoping to land #4 in the collection soon (right along with the Monster Mash remake )

Imagine, a few years from now, the resale TS's with so many added mods you can barely see the playfield.

If jjp#4 is toy story I have to admit I'll be a little sad. I'm sure it would still be a great game regardless of what it actually ends up being. Toy Story was a great cartoon but IMO it really would not interest me for a pin. I think kids are cool for pinball but again I just don't see them getting into pinball. I have two boys and the only way I can get them to drop their Xbox one controller to play pinball is to have a challenge with a prize. JJP is such a great pin company that all us guys just want a pin that is bad*** and not so G rated. Yes other companies make more adult pins but those other companies are not JJP but no disrespect to any other company at all just want a adult bad*** pin from JJP.

At some point you're going to have to come to the conclusion that your taste and JJP's business model will probably never align. Based on everything Jack has said and done to date and the licenses that are rumored upcoming, I can't see JJP doing a more "adult" themed pin.

I would be very dissapointed if toy story is JJP #4. POTC, Bond or Jaws for the win!

Just saw this thread....without reading 15 pages, are they planning on showing it at expo?

Yes it's jaws with Iron Maiden music just like the last, *looks at Pinside join date,* 6 years worth of releases were.

Ha..thanks..I can now sleep tonight, knowing the truth....

Yes. Basically same deal as Dialed In (though shooting for a better-produced reveal). Show at expo, ship the game late the following spring.

Ditto....WOZ is timeless, Toy Story not in the same league, theme wise. I had hoped JJP would have gotten SW, actually, as I would have instantly bought it.

Really don't have a good guess...just hoping it's a great theme as I was hoping to pick up JJP#3....not a chance there...

That's good news....what do you think it is?

I like WOZ, but I think Toy Story would be a better theme.

That said - I doubt it will be Toy Story.

PotC or Toy Story are all that keep coming up. I'd be better with Toy Story than PotC, but I secretly hope they succeeded in getting Harry Potter, which would *almost* make up for Stern locking up Princess Bride.

I understand where you're coming from. but the bland family friendly themes don't have to be well so bland. Let's take Metallica as an example, if you turn off the adult content is there anything in that game that might turn off your wife or kids? I mean there is a snake on there but it's not really frightening. There are hundreds of themes that they can choose that will satisfy the adult collectors and let their families also enjoy it by having "PG" or even "G" rated Roms. I was thinking with SW, ST and Aliens license gone if Jack should ever get "The Matrix" or "Bladerunner" license we'd trip over ourselves to buy them. Heck, even "The Planet of the Apes" would be a slam dunk.

Well, given that the centerpiece of the game is a weird guy in an electric chair you're trying to kill, it's not frightening, but it is on the gross side, especially when his eyes blow out and drip off the screen. Or the snake pukes out the match numbers. Or some of the things that are said, even with adult mode off. It's a pretty aggressive theme. I'm cool with it (the eyes are a bit much, but...), but I'm sure a lot of families with pins wouldn't be.

True. I own Metallica and my kids love it, but it easily be offensive to some people. I can see how jjp wouldn't do a game like that, and that's ok.

That seems like a bad idea - why put DI sales at risk by announcing the next title 6 months in advance? Just announce it just before production.

who says they are not? reveal to production time has dropped dramatically between Hobbit to Dialed in. maybe they are looking at a reveal and then production "soon" afterward.

disclaimer: while i am a distributor (and the brother of the designer) i have no actual knowledge on this. i am just speculating that maybe they are getting faster at getting to production.

If it has to be family friendly then I would enjoy an original theme based on Pirates or Haunted house, a new take on an amusement park theme(PL funhouse 2) or space/Aliens.
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I'm not a Harry Potter fan but seems like many pinsiders would enjoy that theme, why is that dingbat adverse to pinball? Its really stupid.

Man a Zelda pin would just be, wow. Nintendo will prob never let that happen.

There still seems to be significant demand for WOZ ...

Yep. I was interested in a NIB Standard WOZ but was told the assembly lines were being used primarily on DI. So I had to "settle" for a used ECLE (less than 200 plays) for a few hundred bucks less than a NIB Standard. Oh well.

Jack re-upped the licensed some time before PAGG and said it always sells.

Yup. Hobbit got its license renewed too but WOZ is outselling it by a big margin.

They are still families...

I just meant that The Hobbit game play leaves a lot to be desired compared to their other two pins. I didn't mean it would be similar game play, just similar QUALITY of game play. I like The Hobbit but it is inferior to WOZ and DI.

WOZ had been in production for quite some time before Hobbit was announced. Dialed In has only been on the line for a couple of months. If I was them I'd ride the wave into the new year when the next game would be ready to ship in a week or two before announcing, to let DI sell as much as possible.

I couldn't disagree with you more...I have all three...definately prefer the TH to my WOZ RR....DI LE is still being evaluated

You're not a big Lord of the Rings fan by any chance are you? Because...you know...that could seriously make you biased.

I am, because its a great game....I take you don't like those games....every one has an opinion...I just don't agree with yours

WRONG! I loved LOTR but sold it because of the long ball times and because nobody was playing anymore (and because I was offered a nice price). Was in on a Hobbit order--twice!--because I'm a huge fan of JJP's games, but I found it to be a complete snoozer.

Love the books, the LOTR movies put me to sleep, but I like the Hobbit trilogy better. The theme is great on both games, but the gameplay is entirely different.

Well I could be wrong, but heard it from the horses mouth so to say. It is POTC.

I hear ya...I enjoyed the LOTR Trilogy a lot (like Millions of people)...The Hobbit Trilogy was a bit cumbersome for, but none the less entertaining.....On the Hobbit game...out of all my games its the first game my kids turn ... turn the game to difficult settings, set the game up correctly and its AWESOME....that being said everyone is entitled to their own opinion...ours just don't align...I just sold my LOTR LE for great price, because I beat the game several times, and my kids didn't like it....plus I had to make room for the AFMR LE and the DI LE....

It's a pretty poorly kept secret.

Yeah, the guy that posted about Dialed In two years ago before it got deleted also mentioned that POTC and Toy Story would follow, but I'm not sure how reliable his sources were. After all, his posts were deleted.

I agree, but the people saying toy story are semi correct, as that is the next one after potc. Let's hope they start pumping them out quickly.

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