Jjp 4- pirates of the Caribbean

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Jjp 4- pirates of the Caribbean


By Georgeh

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

Anyone have any idea of when jack will be announcing game number 4

#2 1 year ago

rumored Expo.....i think

#3 1 year ago
Quoted from Georgeh:

Anyone have any idea of when jack will be announcing game number 4

When your wife stops shopping

#4 1 year ago

I asked him earlier this week. His response was they weren't sure when. I would probably bet expo, but could possibly be sooner.

#5 1 year ago

Pirates or Toy Story?

#6 1 year ago

Kanedas podcast speculates Pirates.... i am hoping soo too... i need to save up for toy story after my AFMR purchase.

#7 1 year ago
Quoted from Charliew65:

rumored Expo.....i think

Which Expo?

#8 1 year ago

You would think that it would depend heavily on Dialed in sales. There is no point in announcing Pirates in October, and then ship 8 months later unless they want to put a damper on DI sales.

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#9 1 year ago

Tim Raines?

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#10 1 year ago
Quoted from FalconPunch:

You would think that it would depend heavily on Dialed in sales. There is no point in announcing Pirates in October, and then ship 8 months later unless they want to put a damper on DI sales.

Wrong. A successful manufacturing company needs a portfolio of products to offer customers and keep production going. One at a time makes no sense. Stern often has 6 or 7 titles on the line simultaneously. No game dampers another game's sales. There are just more choices for customers to buy. If JJP has 4 titles for sale and you buy one of the 4, they don't care which it is.

#11 1 year ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

Wrong. A successful manufacturing company needs a portfolio of products to offer customers and keep production going. One at a time makes no sense. Stern often has 6 or 7 titles on the line simultaneously. No game dampers another game's sales. There are just more choices for customers to buy. If JJP has 4 titles for sale and you buy one of the 4, they don't care which it is.

I get your point. But there is a reason why Stern has not announced the next 3 titles that are within an 8 month window from shipping.
Unless JJP has number 4 a couple of months away from shipping is there any point of announcing it at expo?

#12 1 year ago

Launch to shipping is getting shorter for JJP. DI launch to shipping was about 8 months. My guess is JJP4 will be launched at Expo and shipping by TPF, that's about 5 months.

#13 1 year ago
Quoted from FalconPunch:

Unless JJP has number 4 a couple of months away from shipping is there any point of announcing it at expo?

Yeah, same reason stern announced acdc premium, but won't ship until late this year. What stern did by doing that was potentially to take away a few dialed in sales. Some people were in on DI, but once acdc was announced, they now know what's coming and can shift funds there instead. Potc could have a similar effect. If it looks great, it maybe could take some acdc funds. It's a crazy cycle, but that's life. Jjp wants 2 games a year, and they're going to get there at some point.

#14 1 year ago
Quoted from konghusker:

Jjp wants 2 games a year

In the K interview, Jack said that he wants to put out 3 games every 2 years.

#15 1 year ago
Quoted from Rarehero:

If JJP has 4 titles for sale and you buy one of the 4, they don't care which it is.

I actually think that they would prefer for you to buy all 4 titles over a managed release schedule. No reason to cannibalize current orders for future orders. Just my guess though.

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#16 1 year ago

Pirates then Toy Story would be 5 questionable non sure fire titles in a row. One title that's already been done and one title for children.
Where is 007, Beatles, BTTF, Godfather, Guardians etc.

#17 1 year ago
Quoted from TVP:

I actually think that they would prefer for you to buy all 4 titles over a managed release schedule. No reason to cannibalize current orders for future orders. Just my guess though.

That assumes they imagine every buyer will buy all their games. That's not a realistic expectation. No, more choices of items for sale = more potential customers at any given moment = more units out the door. I was at E3 this week and for example, Nintendo showed tons of new games that will be releasing this year. Why not just feature one? More choices = more unique customers = more sales.

#18 1 year ago
Quoted from Ballypinball:

When your wife stops shopping

That would never happen big fella

#19 1 year ago

If it's potc the film is already out and by the time it's revealed their could be some hype sales missing , if number 5 is toy story getting that right on movie release time would be perfect

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#20 1 year ago

Anyway hurry up jack as your quality smashes stern and I need more pins in my collection

#21 1 year ago

Pirates isn't doing well at box office either, people seem over that property. Kind of like hobbit by the time it arrived.

This being said, I could see a JJP pirates being pretty cool. I mean, the stern pirates is cool with the sinking ship.. since they know direct comparisons would be made, I'm sure it would have some cool mechs.

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#22 1 year ago

Please not BTTF either. No more stale old 80s titles!

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#23 1 year ago
Quoted from Russell:

Please not BTTF either. No more stale old 80s titles!

Stale? It's a classic that deserves a decent pin.

I can see potc being more of a success if it's more pirate generic and not trying to follow the story of the movies.

#24 1 year ago

Music themes have historically been big sellers so I would like to see JJP get a big license like the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Who, Jimmy Buffett Margaritaville theme.

007 is another big one that if done properly covering all eras of Bond would be great!

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#25 1 year ago
Quoted from Russell:

Please not BTTF either. No more stale old 80s titles!

Back to the Future is a very very popular theme, just like Ghostbusters. A new BTTF pin would sell like crazy.

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#26 1 year ago

Still hoping for a Harry Potter pin, only because it will get immediate approval from the family

#27 1 year ago

According to Kaneda, no licence to use Depp which would be a pretty big miss.

#28 1 year ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

According to Kaneda, no licence to use Depp which would be a pretty big miss.

Agreed, if no Depp call outs it won't be worth it.

Also, Disney and actors I believe signed on for 6 installments of the series so there is one more movie to come. The way the current ended and the preview of the next hidden in the credits is telling.

If someone is to do another POTC I think it should be an all encompassing game of the 6 movies.

#29 1 year ago
Quoted from thewool:

Still hoping for a Harry Potter pin, only because it will get immediate approval from the family

I hear ya brother. I couldn't give two shits about Harry Potter or Toy Story, but as my wife is the breadwinner in this family, she is more likely to cough up the extra cash for a family friendly pin. Theme is not as important to me as long as it has good gameplay and fun factor.

Whatever JJP choose to do next, I'm sure it will be a success.

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#30 1 year ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Back to the Future is a very very popular theme, just like Ghostbusters. A new BTTF pin would sell like crazy.

It was popular in the 80s, but has very little current cultural relevance.

I thought GB was a poor theme also, but I bought it. Ultimately, a good game is what matters.

I really like Stern POTC, though i don't care anything about the theme.

At least my kids would like Toy Story.

I don't know anyone that's excited about getting another POTC.

#31 1 year ago
Quoted from Russell:

I don't know anyone that's excited about getting another POTC.

If it is a sweet machine, with Depp included, and is an epic adventure, then you can mark me down as the first one you know who would be excited. I think jjp has the potential to blow the doors off of the old potc (which is a pretty good game). Potc would fit very well in the jjp lineup. I am however a bit worried about the current lack of overall interest in the theme. Seems like the potc ship has sailed a bit. My family however, would be in as potc is a family favorite series of movies. That all said, as much as I love our Hobbit, the next title has to offer more to a wider audience for jjp to stay successful. Time will tell if potc offers that.

#32 1 year ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

According to Kaneda, no licence to use Depp which would be a pretty big miss.

He said the rumor was no Depp but he has no clue whether it is true or not.

#33 1 year ago
Quoted from Russell:

It was popular in the 80s, but has very little current cultural relevance.
I thought GB was a poor theme also, but I bought it.
I don't know anyone that's excited about getting another POTC.

You couldn't be more out of touch and wrong with this statement. Thats probably why you though GB was a bad theme too yet its sterns hottest seller in forever.

You're right about POTC though, that would be stupid.

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#34 1 year ago
Quoted from Russell:

It was popular in the 80s, but has very little current cultural relevance.

Doesnt it? Geez where do you live and who do you hang out with?
Everyone who is 30+ I know (99 percent of people that can afford a pin) knows what a Delorean is. What speed it needs to get to. Knows the font when they see it. Knows about the sports almanac and dreams about it every once in a while. Knows about the hover board that was meant to be here already. The Nike shoes?
Come on... The movie is iconic and always will be. Just like Ghostbusters was. Ugh. crazy opinions. So why don't you make like a leaf and get out of here!

#35 1 year ago

JJP has done an amazing job with themes very few people care about. Imagine what they could do with an all time great theme. They would have sold 3x the number if TH or WOZ was an HP pin. Destroy the Horcruxes to get to Voldemort Wizard mode? Quidditch Multiball? Forget it, it would have been an instant classic.

#36 1 year ago

A jjp bttf pin would kill. No question.

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#37 1 year ago

BTTF konghusker yesssss! +100000000

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#38 1 year ago
Quoted from FalconPunch:

So why don't you make like a leaf and get out of here!

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#39 1 year ago
Quoted from FalconPunch:

So why don't you make like a leaf and get out of here!

Best thing I've read on Pinside in a long time.

#40 1 year ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

According to Kaneda, no licence to use Depp which would be a pretty big miss.

Yep, 100% right on that. Just think of all the great scenes that wouldn't be displayed and voice work that would be missing. Might as well just do a generic pirates themed pin than not have Depp.

#41 1 year ago
Quoted from TigerLaw:

Yep, 100% right on that. Just think of all the great scenes that wouldn't be displayed and voice work that would be missing. Might as well just do a generic pirates themed pin than not have Depp.

Doing a POTC without Depp is like doing Harry Potter without freggin Harry Potter.

#42 1 year ago
Quoted from sd_tom:

Pirates isn't doing well at box office either, people seem over that property. Kind of like hobbit by the time it arrived.

Yeah, doing another POTC is a horrible idea. Perhaps they're hoping ops will remember that Stern's POTC did well for them and want it. It's a dead franchise though. No one has any massive emotional attachment to it. Toy Story is evergreen, baked in people's hearts and a timeless part of pop culture. They could release that any time and it would be huge. If I was behind the scenes I'd push Toy Story up the line, and rework POTC into something else to release later.

#43 1 year ago

Personally I would rather a generic pirate theme like the ride at Disney without Depp and movie scenes.

I vote for a Nintendo World pin

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#44 1 year ago
Quoted from jamjam:

I vote for a Nintendo World pin

A Legend of Zelda pin would be off the chain awesome.

#45 1 year ago
Quoted from thewool:

Still hoping for a Harry Potter pin, only because it will get immediate approval from the family

Same here same here. I'll be in on a Harry Potter Collecter's Edition the second they announce it.

#46 1 year ago

The Pirates ship has sailed. *rimshot*

Seriously, especially if the no depp rumors are true, I hope JJP walks away from the licence if they do indeed have it. No sense on paying money for a licence that is well beyond it's sell by date like The Hobbit.

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#47 1 year ago
Quoted from FalconPunch:

Doesnt it? Geez where do you live and who do you hang out with?

Do you watch BTTF pretty often? Sit around and reminisce about it? Sorry, but some "classics" live on, and some fade away.

#48 1 year ago
Quoted from FalconPunch:

I get your point. But there is a reason why Stern has not announced the next 3 titles that are within an 8 month window from shipping.
Unless JJP has number 4 a couple of months away from shipping is there any point of announcing it at expo?

Ahh, Stern has announced Elvira 3 and it's not expected to ship until next year.

#49 1 year ago
Quoted from Russell:

Do you watch BTTF pretty often? Sit around and reminisce about it? Sorry, but some "classics" live on, and some fade away.

Alright, I'll bite... What would you consider a modern day classic that lives on that would be a better pinball theme than BTTF? Stranger Things? Wonder Woman? 13 Reasons Why?

The problem today is that we have so many entertainment options that everything is typically gone and forgotten within a few years'. It wasn't that way in the 80's. Pretty much all the good theme choices are for things that existed in the 80's and 90's. I could see a new Nintendo (Mario or Zelda) or something like TMNT being a good choice.

#50 1 year ago

Eric Meunier, the game designer, says it will debut at Chicago Expo. It's been flippable since November. Playfield layout is pretty ironed out. No other secrets revealed. He put this out at RMPS.

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