Dude, you stole my Joke!!!! At least give me credit.
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This isn't news really. We heard a while back about the financial muscle joining JJP. This is it. It's not a bad thing or great thing, just a necessary thing. Jack scaled big without manufacturing cred and needed help. I don't want to see him fail even if I personally don't like a lot of their tactics. They need to do a few things moving forward to turn a page.
1. Stop making widebody pins. I've never played a widebody that was more fun to shoot than a standard size pin. Plus he's trying to do too much with each pin. Win on details, quality, art, fun...not just tons of stuff.
Yeah, that's it for me
Quoted from thedarkknight77:Can we all agree that If it wasn't for a white knight, JJP would have failed and screwed people out of their Hobbit money??? Or is this statement untrue?
You're spot on man, but it's no use trying to convince people of this. At this point, the white knight has appeared. They have secured financial support. The ship is afloat. For now. The big question is how will Hobbit sell. If it sells well and orders keep coming in, JJP will survive. If it doesn't sell well, things might get dicey.
The thing none of us know or can speculate is this: how far will the new leadership team go to get everything in the green? The could be willing to lose $50 Million because they see an upside of $100 Million if turns a corner. I'm just tossing out made up numbers.
It's hard to talk objectively about JJP without people claiming you're rooting against pinball and to stop. Jack's business practices were juvenile and emotionally charged. These new guys will run it like a business. Let's at least give them a chance to succeed. The past is gone. People's pain and suffering waiting for Hobbit is almost over.
If the pin is not fun, it won't have been worth it. I'm still unsure about that game. If games don't ship mid-March, prepare for all hell to break loose.
Quoted from Chippewa-Pin:This is a great point. I think if JJP can survive after the first 3-4 pins, he'll be in for the long haul. Most of us unrealistically expected JJP to be able to build & ship pins like Stern who has 40 (?) years of experience. I know some of that was fueled by Jack...
You do realize, with its current rate of production, game 4 will ship in 2022. And that's being kind. It's been 7 years now with one pin.
Quoted from sevenrites:This sounds like speculation to me, with no factual evidence provided to support it.
It's not speculation at all. People have heard from vendors who were not paid. Parts weren't made. Hence why Hobbit never started to get built. These guys brought cash in to clear up the issues and get manufacturing back on track.
Quoted from wtatumjr:JJP is privately held. We simply don't know. I know I received my WOZ as ordered and expect Hobbit as well
Let's all do this...let's just wait until Mid-March to see if Hobbit ships when they said it would and stop speculating on their finances. Deal?
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