there is a sucker born every minute...
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Quoted from Billy16:I ran out of gas and only got about half way thru. If someone synopsizes the longest post I've ever (almost) read, that would be cool.
i apologize for it being everyone else's fault... but trust me, it's gonna be awesome...
(pay no attention to the man behind the curtain)...
@rick...
conduct this experiment...
stop 100 people on the street tomorrow and ask them if they've ever heard of jjp...
report back...
i'm one of those "new people" you refer to, and i had never heard of jjp before i joined here... some of you fail to recognize how insular the pinball community is...
Quoted from spfxted:Stop 100 people on the street and ask them who the Vice President is...
report back
nice try, but completely irrelevant...
Quoted from RobT:You make some good points Rick, but I'm still going to be of the opinion that the number of new pin owners that exist only because of JJP is minuscule. I don't think simply announcing a new pin company would be nearly enough to bring new people into the hobby. If JJP has expanded the market, it has mostly been among people who already own pins.
I know that their goal is to get non pinheads into pinball, but that isn't going to happen until WOZ is out on location (and personally I still don't think that's going to change things much either).
yup... i find it difficult to believe that someone who had no interest in pinball before is going to be running out and dropping $7k on a machine simply due to the emergence of another manufacturer...
i want jjp to succeed from a selfish standpoint... successful businesses are good for my state...
Quoted from spfxted:It was a JOKE!
oops... sorry.... i'm a little cranky, i just spent 2 hours on the phone with verizon trying to convince them that no, i'm not an idiot, the service really isn't working...
Quoted from LTG:I don't know if they'll do it for every title JJP builds. But there are non-pinheads buying WOZ because they are WOZ collectors.
Last Summer I had 3 or 4 couples stop in traveling on vacation to talk WOZ and find out what pinball is. They found me because they were on the WOZ forums. And were big WOZ fans. Yellow brick driveways and everything.
It reminded me of the KISS army driving up KISS pinball prices.
Might not be huge numbers. They are out there.
LTG : )
point taken lloyd... that being said, that's not really "growing the pin community"... that's "wizard of oz" nuts who'd buy a buffalo turd if dorothy was on the side of it...
as noted, i want to see jjp succeed... small boutique businesses succeeding are a sign of a growing economy...
Quoted from spfxted:Love to see a photo of THAT!
no gif??? dang mate, i thought you had a gif for everything...
^^^
well if you want to use your "nostalgia" example above, no, they didn't... i certainly didn't... i played pinball incessantly in my yute, and it really wasn't the theme... it was the challenge... i loved beating the machine...
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