I have no problem with JJP. They literally sought out to make the best pinball machine ever made. Personally, I think they succeeded with WoZ. You have to like lots of toys and crowded playfields though. I don't have any issue with different releases and all. Without the pre order model, it simply would not have happened.

Jen has been very good to work with. I am not sure the new machine is for me. I may though get TH down the road. TBD.

I still say they are making the best machines available on the market today. They are innovating more than anyone. Now Stern is playing catchup. That is nothing short of amazing to me. To me JJP is a lot like Tesla. They came into a stagnant market and really shook things up.

Even on our boards, there are thousands of posts. JJP has been good for pinball. They set the bar higher. Unfortunately I fear that they may have set the prices too high. I hope they rethink their pricing model. I know a lot of folks that will not entertain their latest round of pricing. The market will respond to that. I think you will shortly see some "Dialed-In" machines "On SALE!".

my 2 cents...