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Jennings Jay-Ball bagatelle value?

By mjthompson

1 year ago


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#1 1 year ago

This is cross-posted in Forum»Market»Buying and selling advice -> https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jennings-jay-ball-bagatelle-value#post-6805693

I have a friend that is looking to sell a Jennings Jay-Ball bagatelle.

https://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=11793

Neither of us has any idea what it's worth. The game is not restored but is complete and looks to be in decent cosmetic condition. Does anyone have any idea what would be fair price for both of us?
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#2 1 year ago

https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1287

OK so i sell similar games at the History Of Pinball Booth at TPF

Unfortunately the pure bagatelle are not as desirable as the later machines that start to have ramps and mechanics.

It is an early Jennings which is neat. People like the later Sportsman/Daily Limit etc

If im buying its 250 to 300

if im selling its 450 to 550

--Jeff

#3 1 year ago

IN addition ive added this game to the archive and stolen one of your pics for the splash

https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/jay-ball

#4 1 year ago
Quoted from way2wyrd:

IN addition ive added this game to the archive and stolen one of your pics for the splash
https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/jay-ball

Sounds good. I can add some pictures down the road if it would helpful.

...and thanks for the input.

#5 1 year ago
Quoted from mjthompson:

Sounds good. I can add some pictures down the road if it would helpful.

yes please

1 week later
#6 1 year ago

One bump in case someone with additional input may have missed this.

#7 1 year ago
Quoted from way2wyrd:

If im buying its 250 to 300
if im selling its 450 to 550

Jeff’s answer was spot on, that’s likely why nobody else replied.

Normally there is no real value to a bagatelle, but this one is kind of neat, being a Jennings and having some interesting features.

#8 1 year ago

I think selling it at $300-$400 would be fair. Chances are it's going to be a display piece for someone's pinball room. These very basic bagatelles are a dime-a-dozen so prewar collectors don't really care too much.
The main thing it has going for it is the casting around the playfield and the more ornate legs + side, so it would look super duper in someone's gameroom. This machine cost way more than many of the other bagatelles of the year prior, so if you're going to have one very basic bagatelle, this would be a good one to have.

#9 1 year ago
Quoted from PlanetExpress:

Jeff’s answer was spot on, that’s likely why nobody else replied.
Normally there is no real value to a bagatelle, but this one is kind of neat, being a Jennings and having some interesting features.

Quoted from cait001:

I think selling it at $300-$400 would be fair. Chances are it's going to be a display piece for someone's pinball room. These very basic bagatelles are a dime-a-dozen so prewar collectors don't really care too much.
The main thing it has going for it is the casting around the playfield and the more ornate legs + side, so it would look super duper in someone's gameroom. This machine cost way more than many of the other bagatelles of the year prior, so if you're going to have one very basic bagatelle, this would be a good one to have.

Thanks. This is exactly how I'd like to use it. I have a perfect place for it... Where a pin won't fit, of course

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#10 1 year ago

We settled on $350. Unfortunately I can't pick it up until this summer. I'll add pictures when I get it home.

#11 1 year ago
Quoted from mjthompson:

We settled on $350. Unfortunately I can't pick it up until this summer. I'll add pictures when I get it home.

Very fair trade.

6 months later
#12 5 months ago

I finally picked up the Jay-Ball. It's a little rougher than I remember but I'm very happy with it. Let me know what you all would like for pictures and I'll upload them to the DB. If there's another game with examples of the pictures you'd like to see, point me in that direction.

Does anyone have any threads for "shopping" this era of game? I'm in the middle of a Space Station resurrection so I'm not going to get to it for a while but I'd like to start reading up on it. I'd like to start by doing a good cleaning and fix up anything that's broken or missing, for example, there are several pins missing. I doubt I'll do a full restoration but any references would be appreciated.

#13 5 months ago
Quoted from mjthompson:

I finally picked up the Jay-Ball. It's a little rougher than I remember but I'm very happy with it. Let me know what you all would like for pictures and I'll upload them to the DB. If there's another game with examples of the pictures you'd like to see, point me in that direction.
Does anyone have any threads for "shopping" this era of game? I'm in the middle of a Space Station resurrection so I'm not going to get to it for a while but I'd like to start reading up on it. I'd like to start by doing a good cleaning and fix up anything that's broken or missing, for example, there are several pins missing. I doubt I'll do a full restoration but any references would be appreciated.

The Howard products are a god send for this era of games. I strip the playfield and put all the metal into the heated ultrasonic then polish in walnut media with Flitz in a brass tumbler. I coat the playfield in Howard Feed N Wax, let it absorb and re-coat, repeat until the playfield stops absorbing any, then wax with Blitz. For the cabinet, I use Howard Restore A Finish, then follow with Feed N Wax until it stops absorbing and wipe off excess. Once all the metal has gone through the tumbler, I hand polish with Flitz, then coat with Renaissance Micro Crystalline Wax And Polish, then do the reassembly.

#14 5 months ago

Thanks for the info. The Howard tips are helpful and I'm planning on using an ultrasonic & tumbler. Do you remove the pins? If so, how do you reset them?

Also, the game is missing several pins, does any place sell something that can be used as replacements?

#15 5 months ago
Quoted from mjthompson:

Thanks for the info. The Howard tips are helpful and I'm planning on using an ultrasonic & tumbler. Do you remove the pins? If so, how do you reset them?
Also, the game is missing several pins, does any place sell something that can be used as replacements?

I remove the pins and they go through the ultrasonic and tumbler, too. I find something I can use as a guide (socket, a bit of metal tube, etc..) to get the pins all reinstalled at the same height and put them back in just a bit lower than they were before.

For replacement pins, I take samples with me and check a local hardware store that stocks a good selection of furniture fasteners in addition to normal nails. I try to use the replacement pins in less conspicuous areas.

#16 5 months ago
Quoted from PlanetExpress:

I remove the pins and they go through the ultrasonic and tumbler, too. I find something I can use as a guide (socket, a bit of metal tube, etc..) to get the pins all reinstalled at the same height and put them back in just a bit lower than they were before.
For replacement pins, I take samples with me and check a local hardware store that stocks a good selection of furniture fasteners in addition to normal nails. I try to use the replacement pins in less conspicuous areas.

Thanks for the tips!

#17 5 months ago
Quoted from PlanetExpress:

The Howard products are a god send for this era of games. I strip the playfield and put all the metal into the heated ultrasonic then polish in walnut media with Flitz in a brass tumbler. I coat the playfield in Howard Feed N Wax, let it absorb and re-coat, repeat until the playfield stops absorbing any, then wax with Blitz. For the cabinet, I use Howard Restore A Finish, then follow with Feed N Wax until it stops absorbing and wipe off excess. Once all the metal has gone through the tumbler, I hand polish with Flitz, then coat with Renaissance Micro Crystalline Wax And Polish, then do the reassembly.

Thanks you for the tips, looking at doing something similar in the near future with a table I am working on. Do you use something like rust-oleum in the ultrasonic?

#18 5 months ago
Quoted from dr_regor:

Thanks you for the tips, looking at doing something similar in the near future with a table I am working on. Do you use something like rust-oleum in the ultrasonic?

I use purple power diluted 1 to 1 with water. It's amazing for greasy/grimey/dirty parts... And wire harnesses which doesn't apply here of course.

I usually use the ultrasonic, then soak in evapurust if needed and then the tumbler.

#19 5 months ago
Quoted from mjthompson:

I use purple power diluted 1 to 1 with water. It's amazing for greasy/grimey/dirty parts... And wire harnesses which doesn't apply here of course.
I usually use the ultrasonic, then soak in evapurust if needed and then the tumbler.

I prefer Purple Power, but sometimes use Simple Green if I’m out of Purple Power. I have a cylindrical plastic container that I fill with the parts and cleaning solution, then drop that into the ultrasonic (I run it at 60c… the heat makes a huge difference). For little parts, I use a small jar with the cleaner, saves on cleaner and cleanup.

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