I'm confused enough in life o-din,your not helping.

What? no 'dark roast' pic yet?

and who's helping me?

We're in the middle of a blizzard, ill have a cool pic soon enough!! >

Condition is king. A HUO Judge Dredd should go for $2500 all day long same with a damn near perfect one. A non faded JD is just rare!!! Plus several JD's and Demo Mans were parted out so they a bit more scarce now a days.

Kerry I see now why you didn't want to post your other sales here. I am very happy and its by far the nicest quality pin I have ever owned.

Considering I see WH20 all the time for $4k or $5k, why does anybody have a chapped ass when JD sells in the $2k's? It is absolutely baffling to me.
Seriously, consider this. WH20 is a good game but doesn't have DCS sound, just standard width. JD is also a highly regarded game, has DCS, is a widebody superpin that makes for a near perfect home game.

HUO JD should probably be selling at $3500 (somebody just said that its normal to pay $3k US in their country). If WH20 sells for what it does, why does this sound crazy? & this is just 1 example, I can think of a number of games that cost much more, but probably don't deserve to.
But if I sell my JD, like many people I'll probably have to settle for a more average price as JD still struggles a little to rebound from how ridiculously low it used to cost.
Today's prices are fine, if not still too low for JD if you compare to many other titles.

The difference is that 3 Dredds have sold for $1400 or lower in the last 3 months (from collectors, not lucky craigslist finds), so the disparity in selling prices have many people believing that the only reason that a 2K+ Dredd sells is because the buyer was unaware of what others were selling for.

Maybe in the areas where this might sell for $1400, you can also buy a WH20 for $2k? I'm not saying what price JD should be or needs to be, I could care less, & it is actually kind of refreshing that smart people can find a great game like this in a price range they can afford (that is why I have it!). I'm just saying that if somebody wants to drop $2300, or even $3k on a JD if that is what it takes to get one, I still see that as an incredible deal when you see what a few other of the superpin's are going for. Even look at a game like WW. Doesn't have a DMD, are generally more "beat up", & is much older & with worse sound, less game (standard body), JD ranks above it on IPDB... yet if I saw a decent WW for sale for $1400 I'd trip over my own feet trying to get it.

looking for 1 in pa. so i dont pick sides ill stay in the middle of price war. how bout 1800.

im the "unaware buyer" here ..1400 im sure are out there.Add 400$ SH..So for an extra 500$ I was able to visually walk up and look at it play it and I walked away with a very nice machine.Again bring your pin funds to CA and see if you can even land a bawatch for what you think JD is worth

I was thinking about having my JD for sale soon, having owned it for 5 years & only having room for 4 games it might be time for something new. But I said that 2 years ago too & I can't seem to talk myself into parting with it. Which might be exactly why people are demanding more than a few years ago to part with the game. I mean, regarding the $1400 price tag, there simply isn't a game in existence that I can get for $1400 that is as good as JD, so why would I be willing to sell it for $1400? I'd rather keep it if I don't get the price I think it is worth. I think that is what has been happening to owners & why prices are rising on the game.

My JD is HUO (real HUO) & its obvious once you inspect it. There is some fade on the front, but that is the only flaw I can think of & I actually went 3 years before I even noticed there was some fade there. Deadworld mod.
I'm less concerned about the price I sell it for than I am about just being able to replace it with another great game. I'd probably rather trade it. But I'll always listen to offers for buying or trading. I might even put all 4 of my games on the block this year since I've owned them all a while now.

Yep....but I believe two of them were in rough condition ...so again 1400 for a nice JD is not a common happening.

I've got my JD on Craigslist for 2600. Very nice example and I'm actually losing a little on what I paid plus invested in it. One of the first responses I got was,pinside says it is a 1400 pin so you are overpriced. Told the guy to not buy it then and he responded 3 or 4 more times getting a little nasty. Crazy. If I don't sell just going to move into unfinished basement when new pin arrives. It's a lot of game for a bargain at under $3000.

Unfortunately, I'm sure you and I are not alone in experiencing this.

This is probably the least pleasant aspect of "pinflation" that I have experienced as a seller. Some people seem to believe that they are an authority on the "proper" price (which is invariably lower) and are convinced that anyone offering more must be an idiot. The fact that the idiots outnumber these self-appointed authorities only seems to encourage them to fight harder and convince the seller that he is wrong.

Seems like a classic backfire effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias#Backfire_effect

Why does it ever have to go beyond this point?

I saw the game on Craigslist and it looked immaculate. I knew it would sell at that price. Then I saw and played the game in person on Saturday and it was as advertised and played phenomenal. The buyer knew exactly what he wanted and didn't hesitate. That's how transactions should go down. Congrats to buyer and seller.

I've never sold a game on ebay, CL, Pinside, RGP or Mr. Pinball as I prefer to deal with the local guys I know.

Am I leaving money on the table by doing so?

Sure, but I don't have to deal with "people" either

Maybe some spray paint & ambition is all I need to profit from my hobby.

Don't really care what others say. bought one ,project machine 1K . needed $400 in parts to make whole. So I have 1400 in mine and Its not near completion tons of work and ancilary parts yet to come .So 1400 got me bunk!

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Ah shit I did sell a game on Pinside this weekend I forgot

It's official

JD is a really expensive game now

Maybe this will help your baffle a bit. Wh20 isn't worth 5K, and a JD isn't worth 2s.

Here we go again....

The playfield looks nice!

+1 Exactly. Why people overpay for Wh20 is beyond me. It will suck for them when they see I've bought a very nice one for 3k and wonder about the 2000 bucks they just pissed away.

Thats why it was worth it to me

Does this mean you are waiting on parts to arrive, or are you still searching for particular parts?

Buying a project and piecing together for a $1400 machine doesn't make this a $1400 game. It means you got a unique deal and had ability to fix it. So now that its working you will sell for $1400?

No it sits ....and waits ,when its done PF CC'ed and rebuilt I will play it for a good while then If i sell it I"m sure to ask more.

I have acquired most of the items . still in need of a plastic or two.

Yea exactly

Because nobody will gloat if they cut a good deal, possibly even losing money, or if they cut a good deal to a newb to help them enter or progress on the hobby. The norm is to brag about how high a price they got. Big list of fancy mods and cliffy what nots and ridiculous prices for all of it.

You keep saying you were "simply" doing this or that. But there is nothing "simple" about making a universal claim based on your singular experience. That's the problem. Sell your machine for what you think it's worth and enjoy the fruits. It is a mistake to use your sale as definitive proof that a certain pin is now worth x dollars. Just don't bother. If you find those other JD-bashing posts to be silly, then you can imagine how people perceive your post.

I firmly believe that the small intrepid band of people that continue to under-estimate pin values such as JD, are just doing so in the vain attempt to stem the tide of the over-estimators out there whose numbers appear to be increasing ten-fold daily. Personally, my hat is off to those brave souls who fight against pin inflation, even though I fear their cause is ultimately doomed.

No hats off here, they're just annoying. Call out a sale thread if the price is BS, but jumping in and saying STTNG IS A 3K PIN THIS IS A RIPOFF isn't fighting pin inflation, it's living in the past. Forum comments don't set prices, buyers with cash in hand do.

I think the current prices suck, not a fan, but whining about it constantly won't change the market.

The other moral of the story is: never underestimate the drawing power of gaudy painted/coated hardware. It works for Great American Pinball.

Im going to screw up the topic. Anyone need a JD Playfiled for their 1400 JD machine?
I've got one in nice condition, if anyone is interested. Make me an offer.

It was going into my JD machine, but alas the machine made it only about 60 days at the house. Wife and kid did not like it. I paid 2K and sold it for slight few dollars less.

I dont think i have ever seen one under 2k. Lots of features and widebody. It is probably one of the best bargains out there.

How about enjoying what you have, and not constant hunt your grail.
That should settle it down a bit

when I'm done fixing up my dredd ill ask at least 2,300

JD was my grail, and I'm enjoying it!

I could be in the minority but the judge dredd I have is not a $1400 machine. Now others may feel different but if the choice is to sell for $1400 or keep it, it's not leaving. I really don't see how a williams dmd could sell for a hundred dollars less than the lethal weapon 3 I just sold. It's so much more of a game than lw3. It's just my opinion though and if I sell JD its only leaving if it's 2k or more and 2k I'm still not sure.

I think this is a very fair price

Because you sold you LW3 for 500-600 more than it's worth?

Possibly but I don't think lw3 is only a $700 game either and obviously condition and location is king. Here in KC there probably are quite a bit of pins but finding them for sale at a reasonable price is the hard part. I think there is a similar markup to Chicago.

I also sold my lw3 to a person looking for one on craigslist so I wasn't looking to sell it and wasn't gonna take a loss just to make someone happy that I didn't know at the time. I bet if you priced a lw3 at $700 right now on craigslist your phone would blow up.

I think the easiest thing to do when it comes to selling a machine is to always start at a high market price and adjust till there is interest in it, then you have your machine price.

Yeah I edited my price right after as I was confused with the maths. LW3 to me is a 900-1000 game. Again...it's different for a bunch of reasons all over the place.

I just wanted to point out, the JD for sale on here from the chicago area just sold for $2850 6 days ago. Not bad for a $1400 pin!
I think some people are finally seeing that anything under $3k might be a good deal for this game considering all the games out there that cost more but aren't as fun.
As I say all the time, if there was a pin for $1400 that offered just as much as JD does, I'd gladly sell mine for $1400. But so far the only games I see that are worthy to replace JD are all at least $2600+ games, if not much more.

We all saw a WCS sell for $4850 not long ago. Not bad for an $1700ish game.