Thanks for all your replies, u really think people on pinside are awsome. Any way I been looking over and over and learned a lot so far. But I might just order the boards online ND try that. Here's my problem if anyone has any other ideas. Ball keeps going into multi ball and will be good for a while until it starts to look for a ball and when it does it starts ejecting balls like multi ball. I went into switch test and all are not active but for top trough (which is causing my problem), globe position 1 which goes to closed on switch matrix and switch 32 that is not used which I find weird. Also my ball captive 2 will not register on switch matrix which i also find weird and is on the same line as top trough. Any way I looked at trough boards and resoilder all the joints tested all resistors everything looked good and now I will replace the trough boards and see what happens. I will let you know when I get new trough boards. I hope it works because I'm starting to go crazy. Thanks for everyone's response and will update you.