I’ve been emailing Damian all morning. He was prompt and honest and transparent with his answers to my questions. Covered my concerns with warranty should I need it and confirmed it is a mirror backglass, long story short.......I’M IN!!
Haggis Mermaid Edition. This was a hard decision for me having been caught up in the WoZ/Hobbit debacle here a few years back. I vowed never to pre order again. Damian answered all questions and has alleviated any fears I had to commit to what looks like an amazing game.

Having owned AFMRLE, MMRLE and MBRLE and owned fully restored originals, give me a remake any day.
I prefer them and I’m like you and hoping for this to be better/different. It’s a good thing but just my personal opinion. I know there are always going to be the purists. The beauty of these new remakes is that there is room for both in the hobby. I think CGC proved that. Good luck to Damian and Haggis with this and future endeavours.

Well Damian confirmed #202 Mermaid Edition for me, more waiting

I’ve got 2 coming from the US as we speak sitting in a warehouse in LA waiting for a ship

And for what it’s worth I don’t like the coin door either but I guess it will grow on me or maybe if it’s universal size I can swap it out for something else. As long as it plays well that’s all that matters, but we do like to nitpick!

I was given a selection of numbers. I then sent some preference numbers and this one was the first he had available.

Agree to both but with what I almost spent on a fully restored one recently this is only costing $1K more and everything is new so it became a no brainer for me. Was very impressed with Damian’s responses as previous posted so I’m not nervous anymore just excited now for the journey. I too am glad to be in.

Warranty is 12 months from an email I got from Damian last week.

One will turn up later or just buy a standard edition.

Yep but quite a few staying here.

Hey it’s aussie related so all good Chisox go team Haggis.

Email. Mine is #202 no clue what order but would think he will try to get some local and some international in order of deposits?
Send Damian and email and ask any questions. He will get back to you quick.

I’m an EJ. Dad had one the and kept it for 13 years. 3 motors 2 gearboxes lol. It’s what they did back then.

Or Colorado! Man it was cold when I was there.

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Hey Man, #202 We can pick up together......road trip lol

And I’m in the middle, looks like us south coast guys like the #200 numbers.

I’ve had games arrive after 30 days previously. Jason’s last container bypassed Brissy and off loaded in Melbourne then railed containers back up. Took about 45days from departure. He was saying Covid had made a mess of international shipping but it is getting back on track. Hope so I’ve got 3 on the next boat, uggh!

You’d probably know more than me Mark as to current times.

Sounds like no way they will start Fathom production in July from what has been posted.

It’s the LE of this era!

I like the sound of that. Like this one that’s floating across the pond as we speak.

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Oh great Jack works for them now

I must be too. Nothing from Haggis!
Crickets too when I email. #202

Way better game and deal.

Thought this was the Fathom thread. Take all the other crap elsewhere cause no one is interested.

#202 coming soon.

Well if we are going to continue to educate about our platypus then we might as well get the classification right. Yes they are a mammal but they are classed as a monotreme. The echidna is the only other monotreme. They both lay eggs but suckle their young.

Oh and Fathom away if you’ve got news. I don’t get replies to emails
#202

Zzzzzz

After much consideration…….I’m out. Good luck with what I’m sure will be a great machine, just haven’t enjoyed the process!

Alien LV here I come

Secured one 2 days ago and found out last night they have just arrived in Sydney so no more waiting at all. Happy days

With our exchange rate Alien is more expensive here but I think it’s worth it. I’m happy with my decision.

Have CCRLE coming too so something had to go. I’m sure it will be great and I still get to play one as a mate has taken my spot and lives just a few miles away. Win win!

It’s happening, I just jumped as I had a better offer.

This thread is a whole lot better with ignore on a chosen few life’s to short to feed the trolls.

Thread lot shorter too !!

Just remember Covid has affected global shipping dramatically. Not sure how things are going to US from Aus?

My games coming from US used to take 30x35 days on the water plus a week either end for customs. They are now taking 7 months as just finding a container was a problem as there has been a shortage (not sure if this is still happening). Then getting it onto a ship as there is so much back log. I had machines bought and sitting in LA back in October that Are on the water now and might get my hands on them by the end of the month. Container got bumped back a month as they couldn’t fit it onto the scheduled ship back in January. Just an FYI from what’s been happening in real time today.

Yes you and seller would need to contact Damien to transfer ownership.

Of course you do. I sold (not for profit) my spot, I just wanted out and when I read this thread I’m glad I’m out. Opted for Alien LV instead.
I’m sure these will be built just didn’t like the lack of communication and yes I emailed numerous times and got crickets. Poor customer service in my book so I just moved on.

Haggis is making Centaur just not sure of the order. EBD too

And he has previously. Without Wayne a lot of people would never have seen their WoZ. Just saying, and he had no skin in that game.

Please see this for what it is, not bashing Haggis just information for those that may not know where to start.

For those that are concerned about their deposits. Yes you are entitled to a refund under Australian consumer law if the seller breaches terms of agreement. I think we can all agree “send full amount as your game will be built in 8 weeks” proved to be wrong, bordering on lies but that might be too strong a word for some here to digest.

I’m not sure how overseas people go about this.
Here we would contact consumer affairs Victoria https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/

or the office of the ACCC. https://www.accc.gov.au/

I’m sure a politely and correctly worded email would start the ball rolling in the right direction. If you have emails proving you don’t have your game in the specific timeframe as laid out by the seller then this will help also. Start with an email to Haggis asking specifically for a refund as the governing bodies want to see you have at least tried to sort this out with original seller.

I had this same issue with JJP back in the WoZ/hobbit debacle we had here years ago. I was lucky enough to be able to satisfy that after 2 years waiting for it to be sorted, the powers that be agreed I would most likely NOT receive my game and was refunded my non refundable deposit.

It’s certainly harder for you guys overseas but not impossible. You’ll just need to start and be persistent. Yes I know it’s not a lot of money it’s more the principle. For what it’s worth I know buyers here in Australia that have also pushed back and are prepared to eat the deposit rather than send more money to get the game built knowing that they have depreciated already around 2K here due to damage with the brand. It wasn’t about flipping for the ones I’ve spoken too, they just figured they would hold value with limited numbers.

And again before certain people here start the rant of posting to cause Haggis harm. It’s not about that. It’s just trying to offer some possible way for customers to get their money back after patiently (most have been very patient I feel) waiting years. Yes there were setbacks, yes there was Covid, yes there was supply chain issues and I’m sure more than we know. If that was all owned up front and transparent like the company was at the start I’m sure we would not be having these conversations. Pinball is hard and I think we are all intelligent enough to understand that. But communicate to your loyal customers.

I had a deposit and was prepared to wait a long time but when a customer is ghosted with no response to phone calls and emails it leaves the customer with two choices.

1. Stay and roll the dice
2. Sell the spot if you can and move on. That’s what I did because of the above fact.

I won’t respond in the thread but happy to pm. I’m not a legal person just offering some advice to start ball rolling if that’s what some people need. Who knows the offices of the above links might say you’re outside Australia and nothing we can do? I don’t know but maybe someone needs to ask the question!
I’ll finish by just saying this. As an Aussie I’d love to see Haggis succeed, but not at the expense of their customers.

Cheers and good luck to those still waiting. I can confirm like others have said it’s a beautiful and well built game. Some have issues like most manufacturers, but hopefully all of those can be sorted and back to playing.

Mine was woeful mate. He was happy talking way past 8pm when he was trying to flog me one.
Once things went dark I was never responded too on email and the phone number he had given me to speak with him direct.

Correct. I wanted one but not with all the hassles.

Oh it’s shifted. Tide is going out!